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[th1b.taylor]

Prepper Christians?



There is a movement today, among the Atheists, Hindus, Christians and just about every other, possible division of human beings and I am able to find justification for every group except the Christians.

Matthew 6:31-32 ESV
Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.

Here and in many other passages God is instructing us to believe in Him for everything. Not in Him for a cozy place to worship, not in Him for the bed we sleep in and not in Him for the job that brings in the groceries that feed our children! No, God, not needs (He needs nothing), God requires complete, total, dependance on Him for everything we need to serve Him.

In 1Kings 17:6 we find Elijah without! Elijah had no food, no house and no friends to hold a conversation with. While I do feel he would have prefered a comfy bed or bed roll to lay down and to sleep on, he did not need it, he would have wanted it. He had none of the Priests, the Levites, he was used to being around him, he had God, far better than any Priest of God. And if Elijah had ever sat down with Bill Taylor, when he used to cook, Elijah would have “wanted” Tacos and Salsa, he did not get nicesties, he was provided with food... what he needed.

This brings up an issue in need of being thought out, all the way to completion. Do you trust and fully depend on God? Are you or have you devoted all your life to serving God... even if he chooses for you to die and go to Heaven... right now?

 

[Ph8th]

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This brings up an issue in need of being thought out, all the way to completion. Do you trust and fully depend on God? Are you or have you devoted all your life to serving God... even if he chooses for you to die and go to Heaven... right now?

Bill the 23rd psalm comes to mind when reading your post. The Lord is my Shepard I shall not WANT<<<< Why? It continues to tell us how he provides all our needs from protection to food not only enough but in abundance sheep don't lie in green pastures unless their bellies are full..... God is good all I have is His

 

[reba]

The Lord is my Shepard I shall not WANT

A dumb kid side note.. A million years ago i did not understand .. how come the Bible said 'we didn't want the Lord..'

 

[Roro1972]

2nd Thess 3:
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
how does this play into the equation I do not want to eat out of dumpsters so I must follow this verse

 

[th1b.taylor]

Bill the 23rd psalm comes to mind when reading your post. The Lord is my Shepard I shall not WANT<<<< Why? It continues to tell us how he provides all our needs from protection to food not only enough but in abundance sheep don't lie in green pastures unless their bellies are full..... God is good all I have is His

Psalm 23:1 is my Life Verse and has been from the day of my conversion. There is nothing in this world worthy of such trust.

 

[th1b.taylor]

2nd Thess 3:
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
how does this play into the equation I do not want to eat out of dumpsters so I must follow this verse

Roro,
Context, context, context. This statement from Paul iks to the faithful and fruitful and is speaking in relation to lazy, gossiping, bums. I am not confident of your application here.

 

[LovethroughDove]

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Prepper Christians?

This brings up an issue in need of being thought out, all the way to completion. Do you trust and fully depend on God? Are you or have you devoted all your life to serving God... even if he chooses for you to die and go to Heaven... right now?

I don't understand people who say they are Christian and are a prepper. If it is our time, it's our time. Don't be afraid!

 

[LovethroughDove]

I want to clarify. We should be smart in case of emergencies, but not hang all our energy on survival.

 

[Roro1972]

Roro,
Context, context, context. This statement from Paul iks to the faithful and fruitful and is speaking in relation to lazy, gossiping, bums. I am not confident of your application here.

I always say I read the Bible twice. that does not mean I put it all together and understand it. apples and oranges in this case
in Tn snow and ice can cause long bouts of no electricity, one has to prep for that.

 

[th1b.taylor]

I always say I read the Bible twice. that does not mean I put it all together and understand it. apples and oranges in this case
in Tn snow and ice can cause long bouts of no electricity, one has to prep for that.

LOL! I hate brain freeze and the older I get the less I need Icecream! Anyway, say the word and my Dash hound wnts, no, demands hers first! What about this begging thing dogs are supposed to do?

 

[Jim Parker]

Prepper Christians?
This brings up an issue in need of being thought out, all the way to completion. Do you trust and fully depend on God? Are you or have you devoted all your life to serving God... even if he chooses for you to die and go to Heaven... right now?

If I may ask; do you own a flash light or some candles and matches in case the power goes out?
Do you keep a spare tire and a jack in your car?
If you live in an area where it snows in the winter, do you have tire chains?
If you lived in a place where you and your family could get "snowed in" would you keep extra food for a week or two emergency and maybe a kerosene stove for heat if the utilities were shut down?
If you lived in a coastal area that periodically get's hit with hurricanes, would you have emergency water and food?
If you lived in "Tornado alley" would you have a storm shelter?

God has provided us with a mind and the ability to asses the possibility of emergency situations and to prepare ourselves to handle them so that our family doesn't die for lack of prior planning..

"Preppers", Christian or otherwise, make preparations for what they perceive are potential emergency situations.

Why would you have a problem with that?

If you and your family were isolated because of a storm or other natural disaster and had no food, water, or heat would you expect God to send a raven with food, water, and firewood? Of course not!

iakov the fool

 

[th1b.taylor]

If I may ask; do you own a flash light or some candles and matches in case the power goes out?
Do you keep a spare tire and a jack in your car?
If you live in an area where it snows in the winter, do you have tire chains?
If you lived in a place where you and your family could get "snowed in" would you keep extra food for a week or two emergency and maybe a kerosene stove for heat if the utilities were shut down?
If you lived in a coastal area that periodically get's hit with hurricanes, would you have emergency water and food?
If you lived in "Tornado alley" would you have a storm shelter?

God has provided us with a mind and the ability to asses the possibility of emergency situations and to prepare ourselves to handle them so that our family doesn't die for lack of prior planning..

"Preppers", Christian or otherwise, make preparations for what they perceive are potential emergency situations.

Why would you have a problem with that?

If you and your family were isolated because of a storm or other natural disaster and had no food, water, or heat would you expect God to send a raven with food, water, and firewood? Of course not!

iakov the fool

You are, of course, wrong. I live that first verse of Psalm 23 and you have no idea the strength of my faith. You have sought to make a fool of a man that took over three hundred rounds in his aircraft with eleven men on board. Even more remarkable, there were five more aircraft, each with eleven men on board and there were two gunships, all of us averaging three hundred rounds penetrating our craft and not one man injured nor were any dead.

I know, first hand what God can and what he will do. On top of all that and much more during three tours in Vietnam, a fifty ripped between my feet but did not hit my chest and blow the top of my head off, as was normal for such a shot.

No, you may disbelieve but you will never make the fool of me for belief, I do believe. Oh, and of course, living in the country, I need mt flashlight to find the keys when I drop them at night because I will not, just, tempt the LORD my God.

 

[Jim Parker]

You are, of course, wrong. I live that first verse of Psalm 23 and you have no idea the strength of my faith. You have sought to make a fool of a man that took over three hundred rounds in his aircraft with eleven men on board. Even more remarkable, there were five more aircraft, each with eleven men on board and there were two gunships, all of us averaging three hundred rounds penetrating our craft and not one man injured nor were any dead.

My comments had absolutely nothing to do with your faith. Neither did they make any reference to your faith.

I know, first hand what God can and what he will do. On top of all that and much more during three tours in Vietnam, a fifty ripped between my feet but did not hit my chest and blow the top of my head off, as was normal for such a shot.

I wasn't talking about anything like that either.

No, you may disbelieve but you will never make the fool of me for belief, I do believe. Oh, and of course, living in the country, I need mt flashlight to find the keys when I drop them at night because I will not, just, tempt the LORD my God.

All I was saying is that God gave us a mind and a bit of sense to prepare for contingencies.

That's what those "preppers" are doing. They perceive a threat and they are preparing to handle it as best they can with the means available to them. It has nothing to do with faith. It has to do with diligence.

Chill, bro.

Iakov the fool

 

[th1b.taylor]

If I may ask; do you own a flash light or some candles and matches in case the power goes out?
Do you keep a spare tire and a jack in your car?

This does not mention my faith with the use of the word but you are, what, arguing semantics? You did not use the word but the intent is very clear.

Chill? No I am spiritually on fire and that appears to have upset a prepper. I live for God and because of God. You are upset because God has given me a message you were not required to answer but you did, trying to defend half hearted living for God. I am bound to deliver a message and what God does with your heart when you read it is between you and Him. And God did not tell you to jump on me to try to justify your condition. All I can possibly do is to respond when called, what you do is your business except you jump in.

 

[smaller]

Prepper Christians?

There is a movement today, among the Atheists, Hindus, Christians and just about every other, possible division of human beings and I am able to find justification for every group except the Christians.

Matthew 6:31-32 ESV
Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.

Here and in many other passages God is instructing us to believe in Him for everything. Not in Him for a cozy place to worship, not in Him for the bed we sleep in and not in Him for the job that brings in the groceries that feed our children! No, God, not needs (He needs nothing), God requires complete, total, dependance on Him for everything we need to serve Him.

In 1Kings 17:6 we find Elijah without! Elijah had no food, no house and no friends to hold a conversation with. While I do feel he would have prefered a comfy bed or bed roll to lay down and to sleep on, he did not need it, he would have wanted it. He had none of the Priests, the Levites, he was used to being around him, he had God, far better than any Priest of God. And if Elijah had ever sat down with Bill Taylor, when he used to cook, Elijah would have “wanted” Tacos and Salsa, he did not get nicesties, he was provided with food... what he needed.

This brings up an issue in need of being thought out, all the way to completion. Do you trust and fully depend on God? Are you or have you devoted all your life to serving God... even if he chooses for you to die and go to Heaven... right now?

1 Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

 

[Jim Parker]

This does not mention my faith with the use of the word but you are, what, arguing semantics? You did not use the word but the intent is very clear..

No. It's a figment of your imagination. I had no intention to say anything about your faith nor did I do so.

The whole point of my post is that it is reasonable to prepare for contingencies. That's why you had a bandage on your web gear.

No I am spiritually on fire

Good for you! Keep up the fire.

You are upset

I'm not the one with his nickers in a knot.

You have taken offense at something you imagined. I did not say anything about your faith.

 

[reba]

and what is the name of this forum?

 

[th1b.taylor]

1 Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Interesting that you have drawn, out of it's context, a scripture describing proper Christian care for Widows. Of course you did not attempt to give us the life application to show us, the ¿unlearned? of which you were speaking.

I have included the context if you would be so kind as to explain how to apply this passage to this string about those of little or no trust.

1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but exhort him as a father; the younger men as brethren:
1Ti 5:2 the elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, in all purity.
1Ti 5:3 Honor widows that are widows indeed.
1Ti 5:4 But if any widow hath children or grandchildren, let them learn first to show piety towards their own family, and to requite their parents: for this is acceptable in the sight of God.
1Ti 5:5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, hath her hope set on God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.
1Ti 5:6 But she that giveth herself to pleasure is dead while she liveth.
1Ti 5:7 These things also command, that they may be without reproach.
1Ti 5:8 But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.
1Ti 5:9 Let none be enrolled as a widow under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man,
1Ti 5:10 well reported of for good works; if she hath brought up children, if she hath used hospitality to strangers, if she hath washed the saints' feet, if she hath relieved the afflicted, if she hath diligently followed every good work.

 

[th1b.taylor]

and what is the name of this forum?

Sorry Reba, I should have ignored all petty attacks. I am not as strong in that area as I should be. Perhaps he can return with some scripture to press his point and I can respond to that.

 

[smaller]

Interesting that you have drawn, out of it's context, a scripture describing proper Christian care for Widows. Of course you did not attempt to give us the life application to show us, the ¿unlearned? of which you were speaking.

The words are clear and not just for care of widows. Providing for those of our household is mandatory and the responsibility of a man. End of conversation.

If we want to observe further:

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Clear? Yep. Work to eat. Take care of your family by working. Primary common sense dictates and scriptural to boot. Imagine that?