REALLY confused about a dream. What's your interpretation???

[Wchristenfaith]

Okay! So about a week ago, I had a dream that ultimately led me to truly seek and find Jesus Christ. I was in a hospital with 2 other people, only the hospital felt very spiritual. All of a sudden, a spirit of some sorts comes down with a scroll (I did not see the face of the spirit). The spirit then said that all of us but one will make it into the kingdom of heaven. At the time, I was what you referred to as a lukewarm Christian (a Christian that believes in Christ, but doesnt live for Christ). So anyways, the spirit points to me and says that I was the one NOT going to heaven!!!!! I asked why??????? WHY ME!!! The spirit then proceeded to tell me all of the sins I had done. Then he told me that it wasn't too laye to change my ways. Then I began doing good deeds and I began to try to earn my way into heaven, but I realized that these tasks were USELESS. It was then I woke up. I ended up finding out that only Jesus was the way to spend eternal life with our father. I truly think this dream saved my life!!!!!!! HOWEVER, In the dream, I received an EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell. And the bible says that only the father knowa the date when he will call us to heaven. Now, I am truly confused. What is your interpretation on this??? Would God give a.hypothetical time to get his point across???? All opinions are helpful. Thanks!

 

[handy]

Hi Wchristianfaith and welcome to the forum!

I very well believe that the Lord could give you a hypothetical day and time, especially within a dream. The point is, you responded to the dream in faith.

But, I don't think that He would burden you with the exact date and time. That seems a heavy burden and His yoke is light. I would just leave it in His hands now.

 

[George Muller]

Okay! So about a week ago, I had a dream that ultimately led me to truly seek and find Jesus Christ. I was in a hospital with 2 other people, only the hospital felt very spiritual. All of a sudden, a spirit of some sorts comes down with a scroll (I did not see the face of the spirit). The spirit then said that all of us but one will make it into the kingdom of heaven. At the time, I was what you referred to as a lukewarm Christian (a Christian that believes in Christ, but doesnt live for Christ). So anyways, the spirit points to me and says that I was the one NOT going to heaven!!!!! I asked why??????? WHY ME!!! The spirit then proceeded to tell me all of the sins I had done. Then he told me that it wasn't too laye to change my ways. Then I began doing good deeds and I began to try to earn my way into heaven, but I realized that these tasks were USELESS. It was then I woke up. I ended up finding out that only Jesus was the way to spend eternal life with our father. I truly think this dream saved my life!!!!!!! HOWEVER, In the dream, I received an EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell. And the bible says that only the father knowa the date when he will call us to heaven. Now, I am truly confused. What is your interpretation on this??? Would God give a.hypothetical time to get his point across???? All opinions are helpful. Thanks!

It sounds like a false dream brought by a false spirit, and the Lord said He had rather have the "cold" Christian than the "lukewarm" it is the hypocrites that pretend to love others and put on the religious show that are "lukewarm", those who believe and refuse to play church are better off than most who attend church on Sunday and then go about judging and condemning others all week.

 

[Wchristenfaith]

I feel like I'm truly growing to Christ now because the dream motivated me. I admit that my motives at first werent right, but now I'm loving and growing with Christ. Do you believe that Christ used this false dream for good use????

 

[Jethro Bodine]

...In the dream, I received an EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell.

Well, you're way ahead of the rest of us. We don't know if we have five minutes, five years, or fifty years left.

King Hezekiah was told by God that he had fifteen years left. I've always wondered what it would be like to live knowing when you really will die. I'm guessing procrastination ceases to be a word in your vocabulary, and your whole heart goes into what you do for the Lord.

Would God give a.hypothetical time to get his point across????

Hypothetical? Do you mean conditional? Did he tell you emphatically when you will die, or did he condition it on something?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

...pretend to love others...

It's impossible to 'pretend' to love others.

The practical Bible definition of love is "Love does no wrong to a neighbor" (Romans 13:10 NASB)

Either you are hurting someone in any one situation, or you are not hurting them. You are either being patient, or you are not being patient. You are either being kind, or you're not being kind. You are either being peaceable, or you're not being peaceable. And so on, and so on. There is no such thing as faking godly love. You are either doing it, or you are not doing it.

 

[King James]

Okay! So about a week ago, I had a dream that ultimately led me to truly seek and find Jesus Christ. I was in a hospital with 2 other people, only the hospital felt very spiritual. All of a sudden, a spirit of some sorts comes down with a scroll (I did not see the face of the spirit). The spirit then said that all of us but one will make it into the kingdom of heaven. At the time, I was what you referred to as a lukewarm Christian (a Christian that believes in Christ, but doesnt live for Christ). So anyways, the spirit points to me and says that I was the one NOT going to heaven!!!!! I asked why??????? WHY ME!!! The spirit then proceeded to tell me all of the sins I had done. Then he told me that it wasn't too laye to change my ways. Then I began doing good deeds and I began to try to earn my way into heaven, but I realized that these tasks were USELESS. It was then I woke up. I ended up finding out that only Jesus was the way to spend eternal life with our father. I truly think this dream saved my life!!!!!!! HOWEVER, In the dream, I received an EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell. And the bible says that only the father knowa the date when he will call us to heaven. Now, I am truly confused. What is your interpretation on this??? Would God give a.hypothetical time to get his point across???? All opinions are helpful. Thanks!

Is the hospital a real hospital? Did you know the two other people? The lukewarm is the Revelation symbolism of Christ spitting out the ones that weren't hot or cold. What is the exact amount of time or do you just remember that it was an exact amount of time? That point could have a hidden meaning that only you will know at the right place and time and is not the meaning in the dream. It could just be a next stage or stepping stone for you.

 

[George Muller]

...pretend to love others...

It's impossible to 'pretend' to love others.

The practical Bible definition of love is "Love does no wrong to a neighbor" (Romans 13:10 NASB)

Either you are hurting someone in any one situation, or you are not hurting them. You are either being patient, or you are not being patient. You are either being kind, or you're not being kind. You are either being peaceable, or you're not being peaceable. And so on, and so on. There is no such thing as faking godly love. You are either doing it, or you are not doing it.

ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO "PRETEND" TO LOVE OTHERS?
I GUESS THEN ALL WE NEED TO DO IS JUST "SAY" WE LOVE OTHERS, BECAUSE ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO PRETEND:toofunny

 

[George Muller]

I feel like I'm truly growing to Christ now because the dream motivated me. I admit that my motives at first werent right, but now I'm loving and growing with Christ. Do you believe that Christ used this false dream for good use????

ITS BEEN A WEEK, AND OF COURSE GOD CAN USE ALL THINGS TO WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD.

 

[George Muller]

Welcome to our board, Wchristenfaith. I have some dreams interpreted over time and come to realize that there is a lot of symbolism in dreams. Many times the dream is totally different than the meaning or message in it. Now this is obviously a spiritual dream so it would be nice to pursue the interpretation of it and get the message in it. There is a dream interpretation forum that is Christian based, it is at http://papagodsdreaminterps.freeforums.net/

I would take your dream there and post it for interp. There are some gifted interpreters there. Don't just take the interp though and think it is correct. The correct way to approach it is to get the interp and look within yourself to see if it 'pings' as the truth to you. If it fits. Then you pray on it also and ask God to reveal the truth and the message to you. In this way, you will probably be able to get at the message in it.

It's impossible to 'pretend' to love others.

Jethro's right about this. Oh, it can be attempted, and even falsely believed as the truth by a 'victim', but if one has even a modicum of knowledge within them about love, body language, and speech patterns, it is usually very easy to tell if someone is lying or telling the truth. Especially about love. There are signals to watch for, that are the 'tells' of someone lying. I will not go into all of the tells, it could fill a book, and the post would be too long. Indeed there are many good books on the subject of body language. The better you know someone, the easier it is to be able to tell if their lying or not, for you will be familiar with their speech patterns and mannerisms. You can pick up on a strangers speech patterns and mannerisms by asking them some questions that you know the answer to, and watching them. Even if someone is trained to lie effectively (car salesman, lawyers, etc.) and they know how to cover the simple tells, it will manifest in a different way. If you know what to look for, it shows!

Also, having a thorough knowledge of love and how it works within someones psyche and nervous system will tell you right away if they love you, even if they do and do not want you to know it! Or if they do not, and do not want you to know it. One may think that they know how love acts, but it is a very deep subject. You can tell a lot about how a person really feels about you when they are angry at you! How fast they get angry at you, where they wont go in an argument, and so forth. Mannerisms when they're angry. Being angry is sort of like being drunk, people tell the truth more when they're angry. Finding out if they love you is not to be done when you're getting along good. It's the casual things day to day, and when they're angry that tell you. I could write a book about this stuff. Suffice to say, that Jethro's absolutely correct.

First I would not suggest that anyone have any part of the mentioned "dream interpreters" forum. Also to suggest that some believers do not "pretend" to act in Christian love, when in fact they are not, is really an amazing statement when one considers all the scriptures that provoke believers to act in love not just in word. I guess we need only to say "we love" because its not possible to pretend?

 

[George Muller]

First I would not suggest that anyone have any part of the mentioned "dream interpreters" forum. Also to suggest that some believers do not "pretend" to act in Christian love, when in fact they are not, is really an amazing statement when one considers all the scriptures that provoke believers to act in love not just in word. I guess we need only to say "we love" because its not possible to pretend?

George, I don't know what happened with you over there on that forum, and I don't really want to know, nor do I think this is the place to discuss it. I do know that I've had quite a few dreams interpreted accurately over there, and have prayed about it very much, and I think they do a good service. Everyone is encouraged to make their own decision, prayerfully, and decide for themselves. Nuff' said, please do not discuss them anymore.

Also, I didn't suggest that people do not pretend to act in love, I suggested that it's impossible to pretend, and not be found out, if one knows what to look for. Let's keep this thread light hearted and amicable, shall we? I appreciate your help in this.

you did seem to agree with jethro, only to seem to disagree? So not sure how I should accept your words on the matter? The point being that some "Christians " do make a pretense of Godly Love, yet it is not sincere and not of Christ, thus we have a condition of "lukewarm" as I was explaining to the OP.

 

[Brother Mike]

EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell. And the bible says that only the father knowa the date when he will call us to heaven. Now, I am truly confused. What is your interpretation on this??? Would God give a.hypothetical time to get his point across???? All opinions are helpful. Thanks!

If I just had a dime for all these types of dreams.........

First............................. Never, never, never accept any dream, vision, spirit walking through the door at face value until you get some scriptures and check it out.

I got fooled once................ JUST ONCE!!!

Jesus was behind me (Least it was like another vision where He actually was, bright big light, sounded sort of like Him) Had taken me to a room and showed me something concerning two people that was very hurtful. This almost made me make a very bad decision based on something that was not true.

It troubled me all day, and I prayed about it. The Holy Spirit helped me and showed me something that happened in the vision. BAM!!! I saw it, and caught Mr. Devil acting up again. It all seemed legit though AT FIRST..................

Your Dream:

Jesus said....................
Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh_12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

The Lord is not judging the acts of your flesh or sin. Nope, that comes later. You can only make one choice to keep you out of heaven. It's not based on the sin count, it that were the case, we all be in trouble.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

What keeps you out of heaven? The number of sins or not believing on Jesus? Pick one.

HOWEVER, In the dream, I received an EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell.

Nope, The wrong spirit trying to get you to side with it on your time to die. Don't do it. We pick when we leave, not God. If you want me to prove that with scriptures, I will be happy to do so. It's your choice to obey and hang around. If you don't get in line with the Will of the Lord, it does not mean you won't make it to Heaven, it just means your life will be miserable and your reward is nothing. You will make it though because it's not based on works.

Ever vision, every spirit, every dream............................. Must be clear and understandable, or discount it!!!

Mat_13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

Joh 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: (Parable) but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs (Parables), but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.


AMP:
Joh 16:25 I have told you these things in parables (veiled language, allegories, dark sayings); the hour is now coming when I shall no longer speak to you in figures of speech, but I shall tell you about the Father in plain words and openly (without reserve).

AMP:
Jas_3:17 But the wisdom from above is first of all pure (undefiled); then it is peace-loving, courteous (considerate, gentle). [It is willing to] yield to reason, full of compassion and good fruits; it is wholehearted and straightforward, impartial and unfeigned (free from doubts, wavering, and insincerity).

Anything that comes from God must fit what the Wisdom from above sounds like. Full of peace, mercy, Courteous, considerate, reasonable, free of doubts, straightforward.

Always, always, always apply this test to anything you think comes from God. Otherwise you can get in fear, worry and in trouble siding with the Devil and not even knowing it.


Story:

I was about to shut off the TV, but the Lord said, "STOP, and watch. I want to show you how the devil kills."

Ughhh, it was unsolved mysteries. In that story a young girl from the age of 8 kept having dreams that she would die a early death. She wrote about it, told her friends about it, and had her mother involved. this girl kept having the same dream and her (Dumb) mother felt that it was God preparing them from what was to come.

In the dream she was given a specific age. Before she was 16, she was going to die.

Since Mom was now in agreement the Girls spiritual head since she was just a child, the devil had a place. Well, right before 16 she wrote a will, leaving her Barbies, teddies and whatever girls collect at that age to her friends and mother.

However............................................ Her 16th Birthday was celebrated!!!! She did not die......................

Later that night on her birthday she went bowling with some friends. For some reason she had to go out in the parking lot and some evil monster grabbed her and took her out in the desert raping her and smashing her head in with a big rock. Dead at age 16, in a horrific way.

The Mother on the show said that God had prepared them for her daughters death............................

That is what God wanted me to see, to show me why we should never get into agreement with Satan, because that is the only way he can get us. We have to take sides with the devil, giving him a place.

Remember these things, always compare, always go to the Word, never believe anything else for we have a more sure word of prophecy given that beats miracles and all else. The eternal Word of our Great God.

Mike.

 

[George Muller]

EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell. And the bible says that only the father knowa the date when he will call us to heaven. Now, I am truly confused. What is your interpretation on this??? Would God give a.hypothetical time to get his point across???? All opinions are helpful. Thanks!

If I just had a dime for all these types of dreams.........

First............................. Never, never, never accept any dream, vision, spirit walking through the door at face value until you get some scriptures and check it out.

I got fooled once................ JUST ONCE!!!

Jesus was behind me (Least it was like another vision where He actually was, bright big light, sounded sort of like Him) Had taken me to a room and showed me something concerning two people that was very hurtful. This almost made me make a very bad decision based on something that was not true.

It troubled me all day, and I prayed about it. The Holy Spirit helped me and showed me something that happened in the vision. BAM!!! I saw it, and caught Mr. Devil acting up again. It all seemed legit though AT FIRST..................

Your Dream:

Jesus said....................
Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh_12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

The Lord is not judging the acts of your flesh or sin. Nope, that comes later. You can only make one choice to keep you out of heaven. It's not based on the sin count, it that were the case, we all be in trouble.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

What keeps you out of heaven? The number of sins or not believing on Jesus? Pick one.

HOWEVER, In the dream, I received an EXACT amount of time before I bwould depart to heaven or hell.

Nope, The wrong spirit trying to get you to side with it on your time to die. Don't do it. We pick when we leave, not God. If you want me to prove that with scriptures, I will be happy to do so. It's your choice to obey and hang around. If you don't get in line with the Will of the Lord, it does not mean you won't make it to Heaven, it just means your life will be miserable and your reward is nothing. You will make it though because it's not based on works.

Ever vision, every spirit, every dream............................. Must be clear and understandable, or discount it!!!

Mat_13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

Joh 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: (Parable) but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs (Parables), but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.


AMP:
Joh 16:25 I have told you these things in parables (veiled language, allegories, dark sayings); the hour is now coming when I shall no longer speak to you in figures of speech, but I shall tell you about the Father in plain words and openly (without reserve).

AMP:
Jas_3:17 But the wisdom from above is first of all pure (undefiled); then it is peace-loving, courteous (considerate, gentle). [It is willing to] yield to reason, full of compassion and good fruits; it is wholehearted and straightforward, impartial and unfeigned (free from doubts, wavering, and insincerity).

Anything that comes from God must fit what the Wisdom from above sounds like. Full of peace, mercy, Courteous, considerate, reasonable, free of doubts, straightforward.

Always, always, always apply this test to anything you think comes from God. Otherwise you can get in fear, worry and in trouble siding with the Devil and not even knowing it.


Story:

I was about to shut off the TV, but the Lord said, "STOP, and watch. I want to show you how the devil kills."

Ughhh, it was unsolved mysteries. In that story a young girl from the age of 8 kept having dreams that she would die a early death. She wrote about it, told her friends about it, and had her mother involved. this girl kept having the same dream and her (Dumb) mother felt that it was God preparing them from what was to come.

In the dream she was given a specific age. Before she was 16, she was going to die.

Since Mom was now in agreement the Girls spiritual head since she was just a child, the devil had a place. Well, right before 16 she wrote a will, leaving her Barbies, teddies and whatever girls collect at that age to her friends and mother.

However............................................ Her 16th Birthday was celebrated!!!! She did not die......................

Later that night on her birthday she went bowling with some friends. For some reason she had to go out in the parking lot and some evil monster grabbed her and took her out in the desert raping her and smashing her head in with a big rock. Dead at age 16, in a horrific way.

The Mother on the show said that God had prepared them for her daughters death............................

That is what God wanted me to see, to show me why we should never get into agreement with Satan, because that is the only way he can get us. We have to take sides with the devil, giving him a place.

Remember these things, always compare, always go to the Word, never believe anything else for we have a more sure word of prophecy given that beats miracles and all else. The eternal Word of our Great God.

Mike.

I agree Mike, test everything by Gods Word, if it cant be tested? Its not of God.

 

[Brother Mike]

I agree Mike, test everything by Gods Word, if it cant be tested? Its not of God.

So very true.............. Word only!!! I don't care if it shows up in your room at night with a halo and wings holding a scroll. It better be right in Line with the Word of God or I am throwing it out!!! Even when I hear God, I double check. I can miss it, or add to it without meaning to.

Mike.

 

[George Muller]

you did seem to agree with jethro, only to seem to disagree? So not sure how I should accept your words on the matter? The point being that some "Christians " do make a pretense of Godly Love, yet it is not sincere and not of Christ, thus we have a condition of "lukewarm" as I was explaining to the OP.

Not at all George, I agree with Jethro, yet some may try to make the pretense. But like Jethro siad, you either do or you don't as a matter of fact. Perhaps just semantics or perspective?

What do you agree with? That some Christian cant pretend? That is not possible? Yes many pretend, and are lukewarm in love.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

...you either do or you don't as a matter of fact.

Biblical love is what you do, not what you feel. Thus my contention, you are either doing loving things, or you or not.

The reference to 'lukewarm Christian' in the dream is what started this conversation. The lukewarm Christian is neither hot nor cold. For the sake of anyone who doesn't know, the term, and what it means, comes from Revelation 3:14-18. The church at Laodicea had hot and cold running deeds (vs. 15). Not an absence of deeds, but apparently an inconsistent indifference to doing right in any given situation at any given time. That blend of inconsistent action/ inaction ends up tasting like a lukewarm mix in the mouth of God.

I don't believe we can conclude from that passage that 'lukewarm' means 'well meaning, but doing nothing', as it is popularly understood in the church. It means an inconsistent mix of doing/ not doing, IMO, summarized in an attitude of indifference, not a mix of 'I believe', and 'but I don't do'. What the OP meant by lukewarm only he can tell us. But one things for sure, lukewarm is not good. The response of the dreamer to the dream seems to be the right one, one of wanting to serve God wholly. If that's what comes out of this I'd say that's really the important thing.

Perhaps just semantics or perspective?

Yes, both in fact.

I think what Muller wanted to say was hypocrites lie about what they do compared to what they say is true about godly love, because I don't know how you 'pretend', for example, to help a brother/sister in need. But I know how one can lie about doing that. That's probably what he meant. As you say, semantics.

We each have to examine ourselves to see if we really are loving people, or not. This means examining our actions, not our feelings. Feelings can be deceitful. Actions can not. You are either doing right, or you're not doing right. And so we are to examine our lives to see if we are cold, warm, or lukewarm in our deeds. If it takes a dream to get us to do that, then so be it.