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Reformed theology as a license to sin

That's a tough question for anyone to answer in under 6 minutes.
His answers were vague and yet to the point.
And that doesn't make sense, does it?
And that's how I feel about his answer.
 
Yeah, I'm confused. Arminians have a wild lifestyle and when mixed with Reformed it's produces an anythings OK?
 
Anyone who thinks that has never really studied reformed theology, much less the bible.
 
Knotical said:
Anyone who thinks that has never really studied reformed theology, much less the bible.
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I wasn't saying that is what reformed theology says. I saying I didn't understand what he was saying about what is being taught by young men and comparing it to Arminian mixed with Reformed. He lost me.
Can you explain what he was saying. Thanks.
 
People don't like to name names.
But in this case, it would be best to see ministries that exist that fall into either category and see how their beliefs are played out.
Otherwise, in my opinion, they are just empty words to most of us.
 
Deborah13 said:
I wasn't saying that is what reformed theology says. I saying I didn't understand what he was saying about what is being taught by young men and comparing it to Arminian mixed with Reformed. He lost me.
Can you explain what he was saying. Thanks.
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He seems to have a stunted view of Arminianism. The primary differences between Arminianism and Calvinism have to do with predestination and free will, and not much else. I don't see how he concludes that Arminianism will suck everyone into a complete acceptance of the values of the secular world. He just seems way off base, he seems to use the term Arminianism as a catch-all phrase for anything he doesn't like.
 
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Mike S said:
He seems to have a stunted view of Arminianism. The primary differences between Arminianism and Calvinism have to do with predestination and free will, and not much else. I don't see how he concludes that Arminianism will suck everyone into a complete acceptance of the values of the secular world. He just seems way off base, he seems to use the term Arminianism as a catch-all phrase for anything he doesn't like.
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That's what I got from him too but I couldn't explain it.
He seems to say that Arminians getting a hold of grace is what is causing the mistaken idea of a 'lawless grace'? :shrug
 
this whole thread reads extremely forums normal to me... :couch
 
He says this in the video:

"How in the world could you have a true reformed view of the doctrines of grace as they relate to salvation and then think that having holes in your jeans and an Ambercrombie and Fitch t-shirt and a beer in you hand somehow give you access to the lost?"

What's he trying to say?
 
Jethro Bodine said:
He says this in the video:

"How in the world could you have a true reformed view of the doctrines of grace as they relate to salvation and then think that having holes in your jeans and an Ambercrombie and Fitch t-shirt and a beer in you hand somehow give you access to the lost?"

What's he trying to say?
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I'm not sure what he's trying to say, and that's why I've alluded to the fact that I think he's just ranting.

Maybe he's talking about election, grace and salvation is not available to everyone regardless of faith and works in Calvinist theology. Arminianism hold that grace is available to EVERYONE, which we have free will to accept or reject.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
He says this in the video:

"How in the world could you have a true reformed view of the doctrines of grace as they relate to salvation and then think that having holes in your jeans and an Ambercrombie and Fitch t-shirt and a beer in you hand somehow give you access to the lost?"

What's he trying to say?
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He seems to be quoting himself from 1967 when he put down Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel.
Nothing new here.
He has been at the center of controversy his whole life so he has learned not to say anything when he speaks.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
He says this in the video:

"How in the world could you have a true reformed view of the doctrines of grace as they relate to salvation and then think that having holes in your jeans and an Ambercrombie and Fitch t-shirt and a beer in you hand somehow give you access to the lost?"

What's he trying to say?
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Is he saying that just because you have a true reformed theology regarding God's grace in salvation that somehow makes it okay to live loosely--that somehow your doctrine alone gives you legitimate spiritual authority to reach unbelievers and the rest doesn't matter? I think he's saying, 'no'. Reaching the lost isn't just about having a correct doctrine of salvation. I would tend to agree with him if he's saying that.
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
He seems to be quoting himself from 1967 when he put down Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel.
Nothing new here.
He has been at the center of controversy his whole life so he has learned not to say anything when he speaks.
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I would want to know what he found wrong with Chuck Smith before I decide if he's out of line.
 
Mike S said:
I'm not sure what he's trying to say, and that's why I've alluded to the fact that I think he's just ranting.

Maybe he's talking about election, grace and salvation is not available to everyone regardless of faith and works in Calvinist theology. Arminianism hold that grace is available to EVERYONE, which we have free will to accept or reject.
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He seems to be relating theology to how the generation presently in power lives in order to make the gospel culturally relevant and attractive to the world. I'm not convinced the theology is the issue as much as what techniques these guys use to communicate the gospel is.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
He seems to be relating theology to how the generation presently in power lives in order to make the gospel culturally relevant and attractive to the world. I'm not convinced the theology is the issue as much as what techniques these guys use to communicate the gospel is.
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He seems to be blaming Arminians for the corruption of the gospel of grace.
 
I'm with you folk in that his statement doesn't make any sense. What I heard was not reformed theology but the Emergent church. They are the ones who support going out into their communities and identifying with the culture and inviting them in their, church? The reformed theology that I adhere to is not what MacArthur is saying, not even close. I think he has the theologies mixed up. He is speaking about the Emergent church, not reformed. Quite frankly, I don't think he knows what real reformed theology is. At least what Calvin taught.

I have been a fan of John MacArthur for years, this doesn't sound like him at all.
 
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