[__ Science __ ] Remembering Spillover Erosion of Grand Canyon

[Barbarian]

The problem with that is the mouth of the river lower than the canyon and water does not flow uphill.

The mouth of every river is lower than the rest of the river, except in those rare cases when part of the river is uplifted and the flow is interrupted. Water doesn't flow uphill. If the mouth of the river was higher than the rest of the river, water wouldn't flow out of it.

The mouth of the Colorado river opens into the Gulf of California. And yes, it's lower than the rest of the river.

 

[dimmesdale1]

Since it doesn't say the flood was worldwide, that won't help you, either.

Actually it does. Both by statement and by implication. If you are arguing for a local flood then why build an ark when they can go across land to dry spots? Why have birds on the ark when they can fly to dry land?

You've been misled.

By old earthers when they stated it takes millions of years for diamonds, rubies, coal and oil to form. It goes to credibility. If they were wrong about all that why believe they are right about anything else? Esp when you state

Science never "proves" anything in the true sense.

Which means false claims can be scientific. Then go on to state.

evolution is a fact.

Your belief in fish lineage is not fact. It sounds like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth here.

 

[Barbarian]

Since it doesn't say the flood was worldwide, that won't help you, either.

Actually it does.

Nope "world" is "tevel"; "land" is "erets." If it was worldwide, the text would have said so. You've been misled here.

By old earthers when they stated it takes millions of years for diamonds, rubies, coal and oil to form.

See above. Scientists have realized for over a hundred years, there are quick ways to make those things. You can speed up the process by various methods not seen in nature. You were misled by young earthers who told you those things couldn't be artificially done faster.

Science never "proves" anything in the true sense.

Which means false claims can be scientific.

They are called "hypotheses." Hypotheses can be either true or false. They are testable predictions about some phenomenon, like evolution or gravity. When they are repeatedly confirmed by evidence, they are considered true, and become theories. Just like you know that the Sun will rise tomorrow, we know theories are correct, even if they can't be logically proven. Most everything you know is like that.

Then go on to state.

Evolution is a fact. It's a fact because it's directly observed. Theories aren't facts; they are explanations for facts that have been repeatedly confirmed by evidence. I suspect you've confused the observed phenomenon of evolution, with a consequence of evolution (common descent). You should probably know that most creationist organizations now accept the theory in a limited way, usually admitting common descent for species, genera, and families. Sometimes more.