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repentance

Actually love and forgivness are a command fromthe Lord for our every day life. Repentance is also something we are to do on a daily basis.

The three are very different functions we are to live and they do work together but one does not birth another..

I will bring scripture to this later when I am home and not on this old phone.
Have a very wonderful week end
Jim
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
The three are very different functions we are to live and they do work together but one does not birth another..
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Before one can love and forgive someone, don't they need to repent first?

If one doesn't repent of their sins, love and forgiveness mean nothing.
 
Gary said:
Before one can love and forgive someone, don't they need to repent first?

If one doesn't repent of their sins, love and forgiveness mean nothing.
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Good evening Mr Gary, :wave2
I am going to answer this with a question. Why ? Well I think it might allow you to view this from another angle if you will .

Ok you said.......
Before one can love and forgive someone, don't they need to repent first?

Can a person love some one and forgive them but hold onto it inside of them and not repenting ?
Now then if some one loves some one and forgives them, what do they need to repent of ? Loving them or forgiving them ? Just having fun with that one gary...it was to easy and I know you would not have passed that up either...:biggrin2

You said..If one doesn't repent of their sins, love and forgiveness mean nothing
That one is a tricky one..... it depends on the love and forgivness. Say Mr. smith stole an apple out of the fridge at work and when he got home he found that his son bing boy broke his bowling ball. Now mr smith can frogive his son bing boy and love his son bing boy and not repented of the apple he stole at work. Now mr smith's forgivness and love is genuine and it is settled both in heaven and here on earth,,,,BUT mr smith still has to contend about the sin monkey on his back called stolen apple.

Hey are you still following me here or should I bring in mr jones and his three daughters...botta bing and boom.?
Brother dont ask.....:hysterical

Gary I hope you understand what I am saying and forgive me for being so nutty. Just had to deal with some irate people and walk in love and hours of listening to several people yell and scream and moan and complain....I just needed to play or something.......
Have a WoNdErFuL kNiGhT
this was earlier for several hours...:poke then me :pray and me again :coke and now me :boing
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
Actually love and forgivness are a command fromthe Lord for our every day life.
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IOW, God commands us to repent from our hate and unforgiveness.


Fish Catcher Jim said:
Repentance is also something we are to do on a daily basis.
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Using our example, when you stop hating and not forgiving people and you 'turn around' and begin loving and forgiving that's called 'repentance'.

Here's that truth in scripture:

"4 ...you have left your first love. 5 'Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first..." (Revelation 2:4-5 NASB)

Repentance is turning around what you believe, and do 180°. It means stop what you're doing (or thinking), turn around, and go the other way. It's the equivalent of a 'to the rear' marching order. I've been told the word 'repentance' is actually a derivative of a military term to turn around.
 
hope ya all are enjoying all those gnats your straining at repentance is in the Bible is something we must do . beyond that your gauging at a camel .
 
ezra said:
hope ya all are enjoying all those gnats your straining at repentance is in the Bible is something we must do . beyond that your gauging at a camel .
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Yes, it is fun. And thank you for starting the straining out of the gnats in post #17. I'm glad you repented and decided to contribute to the thread after all.
 
Ezra so sorry for whatever it was that went wrong with your thread. It seems not many know how to get along so well when it comes to most of these threads. God help us all to love one another as You love us. We do NEED repentance, without it we cannot be saved. It is our admitting our wrong doing before the Lord in order to be saved. God bless you Ezra.....
 
mswright6488 said:
Ezra so sorry for whatever it was that went wrong with your thread. It seems not many know how to get along so well when it comes to most of these threads. God help us all to love one another as You love us. We do NEED repentance, without it we cannot be saved. It is our admitting our wrong doing before the Lord in order to be saved. God bless you Ezra.....
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Good post. :thumbsup
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I think it should be noted, along with the is not's and is to's, that unless it is the will of God, nobody repents.

2 Timothy 2....(NKJV)
23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient,
25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,
26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

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Amen to that Gary. It is very difficult to lay aside our differences and be unified in Christ. Unity in the body is one main goal the enemy loves to get a hold on. We are not perfect by no means but must strive to be gentle to our God family at all times. Our focus must be our Lord and not who's right or wrong. Our walk is hard enough without turning on the ones in which must help up-hold and strengthen us. It is a journey in which we all NEED one another for every step and for perfect victory to overcome as you said above Gary:clap :goodpostto you as well
 
Jethro Bodine said:
I don't need no stinking repentance because salvation has nothing to do with what I do. That's why it's called 'grace'.
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Blessings Jethro:) I was wondering if you could please help me to understand your views and your understandings on what repentance really means to you? How does it differ from grace in your opinion and or how is it the same. I really want to understand how you see this matter differently than others might. Thank you and the Lord bless you.....
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Love and forgiveness IS your repentance.
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Love and forgiveness come AFTER you repent Jethro. Would you please give me some scriptures in your bible that have helped you come to the conclusion you have?:) I am asking in kindness and promise Im not at all judging you.. we are all here the help one another understand together.. in case one of us misses something:oops2
 
mswright6488 said:
Blessings Jethro:) I was wondering if you could please help me to understand your views and your understandings on what repentance really means to you? How does it differ from grace in your opinion and or how is it the same. I really want to understand how you see this matter differently than others might. Thank you and the Lord bless you.....
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Lol, I was setting ezra up so he could explain what I agree with him about--that repentance is a necessary part of salvation. But instead he took offense where none was given. He did not know I was playing devil's advocate and setting the stage for him to expound on his now deleted OP.
 
mswright6488 said:
Love and forgiveness come AFTER you repent Jethro. Would you please give me some scriptures in your bible that have helped you come to the conclusion you have?:) I am asking in kindness and promise Im not at all judging you.. we are all here the help one another understand together.. in case one of us misses something:oops2
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When you change your mind about sin and turn away from that sin that is called repentance. We see an example of this in Christ's appeal to the church in Revelation...

"4 But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. 5 'Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first..." (Revelation 2:4-5 NASB)

Remember.
Repent.
Do.

Repentance is as much 'doing' as it is 'thinking'. It's a complete reversal of what you think and, therefore, do. The danger is thinking that the change of mind alone is what repentance is. Paul addresses this danger in Acts...

"I did not prove disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but kept declaring both to those of Damascus first, and also at Jerusalem and then throughout all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds appropriate to repentance." (Acts 26:19-20 NASB)

Don't just change your mind about Christ and your old sinful life. Act in accordance with that change of mind. That is what Biblical repentance is.
 
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Jethro Bodine said:
Lol, I was setting ezra up so he could explain what I agree with him about--that repentance is a necessary part of salvation. But instead he took offense where none was given. He did not know I was playing devil's advocate and setting the stage for him to expound on his now deleted OP.
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oh... I understand now, so you were just goofing around with Ezra? It all makes more sense to me now.
 
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