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Bible Study Revelation On The Begotten Son Of God

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JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
JESUS IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD

Rev 1:5-6
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
1 Tim 2:5
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Col 1:15
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Eph 4:4-6
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
I Jn 5:5
5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
Rev 3:14
14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:
Acts 2:22
22 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know--
2 Cor 5:19
19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Joh 1:12-13
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 6:46-48
46 "Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.
47 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
Matt 3:16-17
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:18
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
I Jn 4:9
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
48 "I am the bread of life.
2 Cor 5:18-19
18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
John 3:13
13 "No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
John 5:37-40
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
40 "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
Heb 1:1-3
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Heb 1:5-6
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You"? And again: "I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son"?
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him."
John 5:22-23
22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
I Jn 4:15
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
I Jn 4:2-3
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
I Jn 4:4-6
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
John 3:34-36
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
35 "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.
36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
John 10:37-38
37 "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
38 "but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him."
Phil 2:5-11
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Gal 6:7-8
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
John 4:23-24
23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
I Jn 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Matt 10:33-34
33 "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
1 Cor 8:4-6
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one.
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
John 8:36
36 "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
James 1:13
13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone
Heb 4:14-15
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
(NKJ)
XXX We can see that God cannot be tempted, and we can see that Jesus was tempted the same as we are. The revelation I received here shows me that God was in Christ. So we have one body with two Spirits in it. Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit. We can also see from the revelation that we as a people have never heard Gods voice nor seen His form. But we as a people seen Jesus and heard His voice. Now if the only way to the Father is through Jesus, and we cant get there any other way. Then we want to be sure we have the right Jesus to follow. But If Jesus is God as some confess, then the Jesus the bible talks about didnt exsist. And if the Jesus the bible talks about doesnt exsist, we cant get to the Father. And we also know that the Holy Spirit isnt God, because we are suppose to hear and learn from the Holy Spirit, but yet we have never heard Gods voice nor seen His form. And we can see that Jesus is not the Holy Spirit because Jesus said that we couldnt receive the Holy Spirit until He(Jesus) left and went to heaven. And in John we can see why Jesus prayed to God that we the people become one with them in the same way that they are one.
You should take special notice at Rev 3 where Jesus says He was created. And also Col 1-15 And being created means He isnt God, because God does all the creating.

Col 1:15
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
(NKJ)
 
Squeaky
I suggest you study this.
Matt 7:21-23
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
(NKJ)

You need to take your false teaching someplace else.
 
Its seems you get one thing on your mind and that is all you have.
 
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..
 
jgredline said:
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.
 
Squeakybro said:
jgredline said:
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.

Squeaky - you have proven nothing. All you have done is to quote scripture and then immediately shown your 'revelation' to be false by saying, 'So we have one body with two Spirits in it.Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit.'
 
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
jgredline said:
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.

Squeaky - you have proven nothing. All you have done is to quote scripture and then immediately shown your 'revelation' to be false by saying, 'So we have one body with two Spirits in it.Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit.'

I said
That isnt wrong that is true. And the only way to find that out is by entering the kingdom of God. But not everyone can enter the kingdom of God to find out.
 
+JMJ+

Jesus is not the Word?

Who is being spoken of in 1 John 5:7 ?
 
Fulton Sheen's Warrior said:
+JMJ+

Jesus is not the Word?

Who is being spoken of in 1 John 5:7 ?

I said
The Word here is the same as it it everywhere else. The quoted Word. The Word that Jesus brought to us from God the Father. It is the power which we live by. And verse 8 makes it alittle clearer in its definition of all three they all agree as one.

I Jn 5:7-8
7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.
(NKJ)
 
Squeakybro said:
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
jgredline said:
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.

Squeaky - you have proven nothing. All you have done is to quote scripture and then immediately shown your 'revelation' to be false by saying, 'So we have one body with two Spirits in it.Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit.'

I said
That isnt wrong that is true. And the only way to find that out is by entering the kingdom of God. But not everyone can enter the kingdom of God to find out.

Of course what is true, isn't wrong. But if it's wrong it's not true. What you have stated is not true. Therefore it is wrong.
 
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
jgredline said:
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.

Squeaky - you have proven nothing. All you have done is to quote scripture and then immediately shown your 'revelation' to be false by saying, 'So we have one body with two Spirits in it.Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit.'

I said
That isnt wrong that is true. And the only way to find that out is by entering the kingdom of God. But not everyone can enter the kingdom of God to find out.

Of course what is true, isn't wrong. But if it's wrong it's not true. What you have stated is not true. Therefore it is wrong.

Pretty good mutz
jg
 
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
jgredline said:
I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.

Squeaky - you have proven nothing. All you have done is to quote scripture and then immediately shown your 'revelation' to be false by saying, 'So we have one body with two Spirits in it.Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit.'

I said
That isnt wrong that is true. And the only way to find that out is by entering the kingdom of God. But not everyone can enter the kingdom of God to find out.

Of course what is true, isn't wrong. But if it's wrong it's not true. What you have stated is not true. Therefore it is wrong.

I said
Well now dont you know your own opinion is worthless without proof. I have proved I have entered the kingdom of God. You havent proved you have yet. So before you can make a judgment like that you would have to have entered the kingdom of God. Have you?
 
Squeakybro said:
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
mutzrein said:
Squeakybro said:
[quote="jgredline":10051]I have seen and met your type of false teacher before. There are alot of lambs (new Christians) that come through this great board and I will not sit here and say nothing of your heretical views..

I said
Well now. I have proven with the Word everything I have said. So unless you can prove what you say with the Word your only bearing false witness against me.

Squeaky - you have proven nothing. All you have done is to quote scripture and then immediately shown your 'revelation' to be false by saying, 'So we have one body with two Spirits in it.Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit.'

I said
That isnt wrong that is true. And the only way to find that out is by entering the kingdom of God. But not everyone can enter the kingdom of God to find out.

Of course what is true, isn't wrong. But if it's wrong it's not true. What you have stated is not true. Therefore it is wrong.

I said
Well now dont you know your own opinion is worthless without proof. I have proved I have entered the kingdom of God. You havent proved you have yet. So before you can make a judgment like that you would have to have entered the kingdom of God. Have you?[/quote:10051]

Sqeaky
Your great :-D So now that you have entered the kingdom of God, tell us what Paul could not. Are the streets made of Gold, Is st Peter at the gate?
Is there all the chocolate we can eat, or should I say MILK chocolate, can you
ask God if he can make a Rock so big he can't lift it. I would really like to know.
 
You said
Sqeaky
Your great So now that you have entered the kingdom of God, tell us what Paul could not. Are the streets made of Gold, Is st Peter at the gate?
Is there all the chocolate we can eat, or should I say MILK chocolate, can you
ask God if he can make a Rock so big he can't lift it. I would really like to know.

I said
Its apparent you dont even know what the kingdom of God is. Are you Christian or just a heckler??????

Matt 23:28
28 "Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
(NKJ)

The kingdom of God is within you. Not the kingdom of heaven but the kingdom of God.

Luke 17:20-21
20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;
21 "nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."
(NKJ)
 
Squeaks
You have not answered my questions.

Your great So now that you have entered the kingdom of God, tell us what Paul could not. Are the streets made of Gold, Is st Peter at the gate?
Is there all the chocolate we can eat, or should I say MILK chocolate, can you
ask God if he can make a Rock so big he can't lift it. I would really like to know.
 
jgredline said:
Squeaks
You have not answered my questions.

Your great So now that you have entered the kingdom of God, tell us what Paul could not. Are the streets made of Gold, Is st Peter at the gate?
Is there all the chocolate we can eat, or should I say MILK chocolate, can you
ask God if he can make a Rock so big he can't lift it. I would really like to know.

I said
I said
Its apparent you dont even know what the kingdom of God is. Are you Christian or just a heckler??????
 
I am a born again Christian, born from above, not born by milk.
I am protesting your heretical teachings and yes I am making fun of your beliefs. I have heard and seeing many starnge things through out my nearly 30 years of being a Christian but never have I come across a person who believes as you do. You are bringing strange things to my ears. I suggest to you that you throw away your bad theology and stop being a messenger for the devil and become born again so you can share the good news of the Gospel, not some heresy from the father of lies. I would start with the book of John.
 
Squeakybro said:
I said
Well now dont you know your own opinion is worthless without proof. I have proved I have entered the kingdom of God. You havent proved you have yet. So before you can make a judgment like that you would have to have entered the kingdom of God. Have you?

I'm not sure what you are driving at Squeak but let's take this one step at a time. You have said you have proved that you have entered the Kingdom of God.

What is your proof?
 
jgredline said:
I am a born again Christian, born from above, not born by milk.
I am protesting your heretical teachings and yes I am making fun of your beliefs. I have heard and seeing many starnge things through out my nearly 30 years of being a Christian but never have I come across a person who believes as you do. You are bringing strange things to my ears. I suggest to you that you throw away your bad theology and stop being a messenger for the devil and become born again so you can share the good news of the Gospel, not some heresy from the father of lies. I would start with the book of John.

I said
Well I hope you know what your doing. Because what your mocking is these revelations which if you read you will see they are the Word of God. And if seeing someone that has come to the revelations of Jesus Christ that Paul spoke of is strange to you I would think your should question yourself not me.

Gal 1:10-12
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
(NKJ)
 
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