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Bible Study Revelation On the Hidden language

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Squeakybro

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HIDDEN LANGUAGE (HOLY SPIRIT LANGUAGE)(MEAT)

1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
1 Cor 2:6-7
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
Matt 13:10-11
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?"
11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Matt 13:13-14
13 "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
1 Cor 14:10
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
1 Cor 14:7-8
7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
Rom 8:27
27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
Matt 13:16-17
16 "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
17 "for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
Matt 13:18-19
18 "Therefore hear the parable of the sower:
19 "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside.
Mark 4:14
14 "The sower sows the word.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
Eph 1:9
9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself,
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
2 Cor 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
2 Cor 5:10-11
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.
Matt 4:4
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(NKJ)
There are many languages in the world. Doctors have one, lawyers have one, intellectuals have one, common people have one. Seeing that the only guaranteed message in the bible comes from the Holy Spirit. So to guard that guarantee He even uses a special language. And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses, He explains verses with other verses. There are spirits in us trying to deceive us and they all speak the same language carnal. So we can discern the Holy Spirit He quotes verses. Now this is the meat understanding of the Word. The milk understanding is done with the carnal language, the meat understanding is done with only verses.

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)
 
Squeakybro said:
I cant believe nobody read this.

1 Corinthians 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

I feel you have spoken into the air here as your post seems to make no sense, no points, draws no conclusions and reveals nothing of value.

God is not the author of confusion
1corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

I don't agree or disagree with your post I just haven't got a clue what you are trying to say or where you wish to take the discussion. What you have done is give a long list of scripture but to what end ?

with love and respect, andy153
 
you said
I feel you have spoken into the air here as your post seems to make no sense, no points, draws no conclusions and reveals nothing of value.

I said
That is interresting. I'm just here to demonstrate the Spirit.

2 Cor 4:3-5
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus' sake.
(NKJ)
 
Squeakybro said:
you said
I feel you have spoken into the air here as your post seems to make no sense, no points, draws no conclusions and reveals nothing of value.

I said
That is interresting. I'm just here to demonstrate the Spirit.

2 Cor 4:3-5
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus' sake.
(NKJ)

And you are demonstrating the spirit in what capacity ?

If you wish to have a discussion then I am up for it. My question is what do you wish to discuss, what points are you trying to make and what exactly is it that the spirit is demonstrating to you.

What do you mean by hidden language ? your post (to me anyway) is unclear.

Are you implying that I am spiritually blind because I can make no sense of what you are trying to say ? :-?

I am not being aggressive towards you. I only wish for you to elaborate on your original post.

with love and respect, andy153
 
andy you said
And you are demonstrating the spirit in what capacity ?

If you wish to have a discussion then I am up for it. My question is what do you wish to discuss, what points are you trying to make and what exactly is it that the spirit is demonstrating to you.

What do you mean by hidden language ? your post (to me anyway) is unclear.

Are you implying that I am spiritually blind because I can make no sense of what you are trying to say ?

I am not being aggressive towards you. I only wish for you to elaborate on your original post.

I said
Dont worry about being aggressive, I cant be offended.
I am demonstrating the Spirit by your questions. I used to have all the same questions and when I meditated and ask the Lord the Holy Spirit would give me the verses that I'm sharing with you. Now when a verse comes to my mind I know it is the Holy Spirit trying to teach me or warn me. So I shut down everything else(logic) and listen. It used to be reeeal hard to shut down my intellect but now it is much easier.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

Rom 8:27
27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
(NKJ)
 
SqueakyBro, last I knew you didn't believe in the divinity of Christ. How then are you receiving "Revelations" of the Holy Spirit? Christ gift is eternal life and God's guidence from the Holy Spirit. If you don't believe in the Gift of Christ how can you accept it?
 
Dear Squeakybro,

Here's my problem with your post.

Your post is made with the heading off :

Hidden Language (Holy Spirit Language) (Meat)

You then give a list of scripture references but fail to tie in these scriptures to the subject matter/headings.

Now I have no doubt that you see a connection with the verses you quote and the headlines you posted. However, I cannot see them as you apparently do.

Lets take just one of the verses you quote :

2 Cor 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

Can you explain to me as best you can the connection you make between your headline and this scripture ?

Now I am not trying to be awkward here, I just haven't got a clue what you are trying to say.

Am I missing something here ?

If as you suggest the holy spirit is prompting you to make this post then it must be for someones benefit, otherwise why would the spirit tell you to post it. If someone other than yourself knows what you are trying to say then I'd like to here it from them.

with love and respect, andy153
 
Squeakybro said:
HIDDEN LANGUAGE (HOLY SPIRIT LANGUAGE)(MEAT)

1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
1 Cor 2:6-7
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
Matt 13:10-11
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?"
11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Matt 13:13-14
13 "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
1 Cor 14:10
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
1 Cor 14:7-8
7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
Rom 8:27
27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
Matt 13:16-17
16 "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
17 "for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
Matt 13:18-19
18 "Therefore hear the parable of the sower:
19 "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside.
Mark 4:14
14 "The sower sows the word.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
Eph 1:9
9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself,
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
2 Cor 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
2 Cor 5:10-11
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.
Matt 4:4
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(NKJ)
There are many languages in the world. Doctors have one, lawyers have one, intellectuals have one, common people have one. Seeing that the only guaranteed message in the bible comes from the Holy Spirit. So to guard that guarantee He even uses a special language. And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses, He explains verses with other verses. There are spirits in us trying to deceive us and they all speak the same language carnal. So we can discern the Holy Spirit He quotes verses. Now this is the meat understanding of the Word. The milk understanding is done with the carnal language, the meat understanding is done with only verses.

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

This is likely the most important thing Christians should be investigating in these times. Its significance has been lost and overlooked and replaced with something God does not even wish us to be doing. A very clear understanding of 1 Corinthians 1:12 through chapter 4 is the best place to start.
 
God speaks plainly and openly to people.

The days for Parables is over.
 
evanman you said
God speaks plainly and openly to people.

I said
Do you want to bet your salvation on that?

John 5:37-40
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
40 "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
(NKJ)

Heb 1:1-2
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
(NKJ)
 
Joh 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
 
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
(NKJ)

2 Cor 1:22
22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
(NKJ)

Eph 1:14
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
(NKJ)

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)


2 Cor 4:3-4
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
(NKJ)
 
Squeakybro said:
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
(NKJ)

2 Cor 1:22
22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
(NKJ)

Eph 1:14
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
(NKJ)

You sure are full of hidden language. :crying:

with love and respect, andy153

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)


2 Cor 4:3-4
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
(NKJ)
 
you said
You sure are full of hidden language.

I said
Not me the Holy Spirit is. I have just learned how to listen and submit.
 
Squeakybro said:
There are many languages in the world. Doctors have one, lawyers have one, intellectuals have one, common people have one.

I agree.

Squeakybro said:
Seeing that the only guaranteed message in the bible comes from the Holy Spirit.

The the Bible as whole is the 'guarenteed message' from the Holy Spirit, aka God.


Squeakybro said:
So to guard that guarantee He even uses a special language.

He doesn't use a special language to guarantee the safety of His message, He uses it to confound the wisdom of the world. Those who don't understand what Christ has done, will see the Bible as foolishness to them.

Squeakybro said:
And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses, He explains verses with other verses.

I disagree. The Holy Spirit doesn't "only" quote verses. He does quote them in the sense of the Bible interprets the Bible. But the Holy Spirit uses life lessons to teach us as well. Example would be pestilence and famines to turn the hearts of men to God.

The Bible says the Holy Spirit is the teacher. Notice the teacher is not limited to what, where or how He teaches.

Squeakybro said:
There are spirits in us trying to deceive us and they all speak the same language carnal.

I disagree here as well. I don't think there are spirits 'in us' that are trying to deceive us. I do believe Satan and his fallen angels are trying to tempt us at every chance they are allowed to have. But I don't believe they are inside of us doing this.


Squeakybro said:
So we can discern the Holy Spirit He quotes verses.

We can discern what is from God and was is not from God by testing it against Scripture.

Squeakybro said:
Now this is the meat understanding of the Word. The milk understanding is done with the carnal language, the meat understanding is done with only verses.

The milk is understood through the Grace of God and the tutelage of the Holy Spirit, as is the meat. All of the milk and meat are understood through Scripture, with the Holy Spirit guiding us. The meat can only be understood if the milk is understood. You cannot feed the meat until one understands the milk. Otherwise it will be a vast confusion for the one trying to learn.
 
GodSaves said:
Squeakybro said:
There are many languages in the world. Doctors have one, lawyers have one, intellectuals have one, common people have one.

I agree.

Squeakybro said:
Seeing that the only guaranteed message in the bible comes from the Holy Spirit.

The the Bible as whole is the 'guarenteed message' from the Holy Spirit, aka God.


Squeakybro said:
So to guard that guarantee He even uses a special language.

He doesn't use a special language to guarantee the safety of His message, He uses it to confound the wisdom of the world. Those who don't understand what Christ has done, will see the Bible as foolishness to them.

Squeakybro said:
And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses, He explains verses with other verses.

I disagree. The Holy Spirit doesn't "only" quote verses. He does quote them in the sense of the Bible interprets the Bible. But the Holy Spirit uses life lessons to teach us as well. Example would be pestilence and famines to turn the hearts of men to God.

The Bible says the Holy Spirit is the teacher. Notice the teacher is not limited to what, where or how He teaches.

Squeakybro said:
There are spirits in us trying to deceive us and they all speak the same language carnal.

I disagree here as well. I don't think there are spirits 'in us' that are trying to deceive us. I do believe Satan and his fallen angels are trying to tempt us at every chance they are allowed to have. But I don't believe they are inside of us doing this.


Squeakybro said:
So we can discern the Holy Spirit He quotes verses.

We can discern what is from God and was is not from God by testing it against Scripture.

Squeakybro said:
Now this is the meat understanding of the Word. The milk understanding is done with the carnal language, the meat understanding is done with only verses.

The milk is understood through the Grace of God and the tutelage of the Holy Spirit, as is the meat. All of the milk and meat are understood through Scripture, with the Holy Spirit guiding us. The meat can only be understood if the milk is understood. You cannot feed the meat until one understands the milk. Otherwise it will be a vast confusion for the one trying to learn.

You plainly don't even know what the meat is!!
 
Godsaves you said
I disagree here as well. I don't think there are spirits 'in us' that are trying to deceive us. I do believe Satan and his fallen angels are trying to tempt us at every chance they are allowed to have. But I don't believe they are inside of us doing this.


I said
Well you do have a right to your opinion. I didnt want to make this along post so I'll just share this one with you. Them fallen angels you refer to are spirits. Angels dwell outside of us and spirits dwell inside of us.

Heb 1:7
7 And of the angels He says: "Who makes His angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire."
(NKJ)
 
Hebrews 1:

6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Context helps to understand what angels are refered to here.

Revelation 12:

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Are you suggesting the Bible is wrong here to say that Satan's angels are in fact angels? Mind you the word angels here, aggelos in greek is the same word used for God's angels as well. Spirit is a completely different word, used in the Bible, pneuma in greek. Has a different meaning as well.

Our spirit dwells inside of us and if we are in Christ, His Spirit dwells in us. But Satan's spirit nor his angel's spirit does not dwell in us.
 
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