Satan as the Anti-christ

[n2thelight]

The anti-Christ will be Satan come to earth pretending to be God or Jesus performing miracles and deceiving the people of the world.

Scripture:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (Isaiah 14)

And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. (Daniel 8:23-25)

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4)

And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them, Woe to the inhibiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. (Revelation 13:13-14)

Although his spirit is already at work in the earth, there is a point in the future when Satan, along with his angels, is going to literally be kicked out of heaven and cast to the earth. That is when the last big deception will take place. Are you prepared? Daniel says he will come in peacefully and cause to prosper. Most are expecting a cruel, dictator type being, but what the actual deception will be is a great revival. He will claim to be Jesus. (The root word or etymology for Anti can mean instead of Christ. Here are the explanations in the Strong’s Greek Concordance: over against, opposite to, before, for, instead of, in place of something)

Revelation 13 says that he will deceive the world by performing miracles such as snapping his fingers and cause lightening to come down from heaven. This is why Jesus said in the gospel of Matthew, “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.” (Matthew 24:23-26)

Jesus spoke of that day when Satan shall be booted from heaven. Remember another of Satan’s names is the serpent. Jesus said he gives his followers power to tread on serpents. “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” Luke 10:18-19

 

[Stormcrow]

The anti-Christ will be Satan come to earth pretending to be God or Jesus performing miracles and deceiving the people of the world.

Well if this is the same Satan mentioned in all the gospels as already being in the world, then he sure is taking his good, sweet time to carry out his nefarious plan.

{18} Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18 (NASB)

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[AKJVReader]

Although his spirit is already at work in the earth, there is a point in the future when Satan, along with his angels, is going to literally be kicked out of heaven and cast to the earth. That is when the last big deception will take place. Are you prepared? Daniel says he will come in peacefully and cause to prosper. Most are expecting a cruel, dictator type being, but what the actual deception will be is a great revival.

I know that Pentecostals talk about a great revival in there town or city or across there country or across the world all the time. I think that there will be one world religion based on strong beliefs in witchcraft, occultism and supernatural experiences as Daniel i believe says that this wicked man will cause craft to prosper.

You may be interested in Maitreya, a fallen angel that deceives:

http://pdf.cftresources.com/2009_02-01__Deception Afoot- Maitreya and Master Jesus.pdf

and

Mars, Maitreya, the Ascended masters and strong delusion:

http://pdf.cftresources.com/2007_04...a, The Ascended Masters & Strong Delusion.pdf

But today the vast majority of people on earth are already deceived. Only real Christians know the truth. Satan will bring out the big guns before he is cast into the lake of fire but the Christian knows that He that is in them is greater than he that is in the world. But the thing is that a Christian can easily be deceived by not knowing the KJV Bible. With God on your side you can never be defeated.

 

[Sinthesis]

But the thing is that a Christian can easily be deceived by not knowing the KJV Bible.

How were Christians 401 years ago delivered from deception?

 

[n2thelight]

Well if this is the same Satan mentioned in all the gospels as already being in the world, then he sure is taking his good, sweet time to carry out his nefarious plan.

{18} Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18 (NASB)

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His evil spirit is here,but he has yet to be kicked out of heaven....

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Yes there are antichrists in the world,but not THE antichrist whom is satan....

But since you seem to think he is,can you please tell me when the below happened

Revelation 13 says that he will deceive the world by performing miracles such as snapping his fingers and cause lightening to come down from heaven. This is why Jesus said in the gospel of Matthew, “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Also, where are the two witnesses?Where is the locust army(the fallen angels)

 

[Stormcrow]

he has yet to be kicked out of heaven....

I think you'd better check the context of that passage in Rev. 12 you quoted:

{5} And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.

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This is the ascension of Christ.

{7} And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, {8} and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. {9} And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

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The same Satan who entered the presence of God and asked for the authority to test Job (Job 1:6-12) freely moved between heaven and earth.

{10} Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. Revelation 12:5-10 (NASB)

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The "accuser of the brethren" no longer has an audience with God. He has and forevermore been kicked out of heaven by the shed blood of the Lamb and the power of His resurrection!

{17} The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name." {18} And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning. Luke 10:17-18 (NASB)

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Luke 10:18 fulfilled in Christ's ascension to the Father.

but not THE antichrist whom is satan....

{8} Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8 (NASB)

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Satan has been earthbound since Christ kicked him out of heaven. Satan can no longer stand before God and accuse us. He lost that privilege at the cross.

Revelation 13 says that he will deceive the world by performing miracles such as snapping his fingers and cause lightening to come down from heaven.

First of all, I have never seen any translation of the Bible that says the "Antichrist" will simply snap "his fingers and cause lightening to come down from heaven." Are you sure you're not just making that up?

This is what the verse actually says:

{13} He [the beast] performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. Revelation 13:13 (NASB)

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Now, I have previously explained all of this to you here:

http://www.christianforums.net/f20/pre-trib-post-trib-two-tribs-35634/index3.html#post534745

and here:

http://www.christianforums.net/f20/pre-trib-post-trib-two-tribs-35634/index3.html#post535356

Either you didn't read those posts (with their associated links) or you've chosen to ignore them. If you've missed them, please go back and read them. If you've simply chosen to ignore them, we have nothing further to discuss until you do. I don't like being ignored then asked to answer the same question more than once.

Peace. Out.

 

[Stormcrow]

But the thing is that a Christian can easily be deceived by not knowing the KJV Bible.

Seems as though the idea that knowing only one Bible translation alone is capable of guarding you from deception is a deception in and of itself. :o

What do you tell new believers to read when they don't understand the "King's English" as well as you?

Might want to schedule that eye exam. Have the doc check for "myopia."

 

[AKJVReader]

Seems as though the idea that knowing only one Bible translation alone is capable of guarding you from deception is a deception in and of itself.
What do you tell new believers to read when they don't understand the "King's English" as well as you?

I know there are many children out there that can read the King James Bible and also remember Bible passages. A new believer would also find the NASV or NKJV just as difficult to understand. The KJV says to a new Christian to desire the Word of God in order to grow spiritually. I wonder why the Modern Bible Versions are so popular? How did that happen?

 

[n2thelight]

satan does not get kicked out of heaven until the 5th trumpet sounds,so can you please tell me when did the first 4 sound?

Revelation 9:1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit [pit of the abyss]."

The "star" that falls to the earth is the star of Isaiah 14. The star is "Lucifer", who will be the Antichrist once he arrives on earth. Satan is given the key, or authority to the bottomless pit, for this is where Satan's fallen angels are held.

Revelation 9:3 "And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."
This locust army that comes upon the earth is Satan's army of demonic forces. They are the fallen angels, and demons, both coming with Satan, and those that are already here upon the earth.

The "power" in the Greek, is "exousia"; it means "authority", or delegated power by God to them. It is the right to carry out the wrath of God, in His [God's] behalf. When they strike, or exert their power on the deceived, it is a spiritual power, as we see in Ephesians 6:10-20. This is because we are in a spiritual battle against Satan and His forces.

Will respond to the rest of your post latter.....

 

[Elijah674]

satan does not get kicked out of heaven until the 5th trumpet sounds,so can you please tell me when did the first 4 sound?

Revelation 9:1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit [pit of the abyss]."

The "star" that falls to the earth is the star of Isaiah 14. The star is "Lucifer", who will be the Antichrist once he arrives on earth. Satan is given the key, or authority to the bottomless pit, for this is where Satan's fallen angels are held.

Revelation 9:3 "And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."
This locust army that comes upon the earth is Satan's army of demonic forces. They are the fallen angels, and demons, both coming with Satan, and those that are already here upon the earth.

The "power" in the Greek, is "exousia"; it means "authority", or delegated power by God to them. It is the right to carry out the wrath of God, in His [God's] behalf. When they strike, or exert their power on the deceived, it is a spiritual power, as we see in Ephesians 6:10-20. This is because we are in a spiritual battle against Satan and His forces.

Will respond to the rest of your post latter.....

satan has the key to his own bottomless pit? Come on get with it! Read Jer. 4:22-27 for these 'foolish' [[POSTS!]]. The thing is, is that the teaching is [ANTI/CHRIST!] NOTHING PERSONAL MEANT! (But Your post is still in Heb.5)

--Elijah

 

[Stormcrow]

The KJV says to a new Christian to desire the Word of God in order to grow spiritually.

As a new Christian, in 1973, I learned more about my new found faith from The Living Bible than I ever did from the KJV.

The Living Bible (TLB) is an English version of the Bible created by Kenneth N. Taylor. It was first published in 1971. Unlike most English Bibles, The Living Bible is a paraphrase. Mr. Taylor used the American Standard Version of 1901 as his base text.[1] According to "Ken Taylor, God's Voice In The Vernacular" by Harold Myra in a 1979 issue of Christianity Today, Taylor explained the inspiration for preparing The Living Bible:

"The children were one of the chief inspirations for producing the Living Bible. Our family devotions were tough going because of the difficulty we had understanding the King James Version, which we were then using, or the Revised Standard Version, which we used later. All too often I would ask questions to be sure the children understood, and they would shrug their shoulders—they didn't know what the passage was talking about. So I would explain it. I would paraphrase it for them and give them the thought. It suddenly occurred to me one afternoon that I should write out the reading for that evening thought by thought, rather than doing it on the spot during our devotional time. So I did, and read the chapter to the family that evening with exciting results—they knew the answers to all the questions I asked!"
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The Living Bible was a best-seller in the early 1970s, largely due to the accessibility of its modern language, which made passages understandable to those with little or no previous background in Bible study. In 1972 and 1973, The Living Bible was the best-selling book in America.

Would I ever use The Living Bible for serious Bible study now? Nope. But that's not why it was written. Who are you to suggest that the only way to learn about one's faith is from a version written 400 years ago? What did Christians ever do before your precious KJV came to be?

You like the KJV? Fine. But please don't presume that your Christian walk should be the model for EVERY believer: we are told to follow Christ, not you.

 

[Pard]

I wonder why the Modern Bible Versions are so popular? How did that happen?

Because they are written in plain English, not floral English that died out 300 years ago!

The KJV's fall in popularity has nothing to do with the devil and everything to do with it being one of the hardest to read translations in the world! I only am good at reading from it because I was forced to read the entire works of Shakespeare for a class once and my grandfather read to me from the Young's, which is frankly a better translation than the KJV is anyways.

 

[AKJVReader]

Who are you to suggest that the only way to learn about one's faith is from a version written 400 years ago? What did Christians ever do before your precious KJV came to be?

There were six English Bibles before the 1611 King James Bible. And of course if i lived before 1611 then i would have read one if possible. The King James Bible was the seventh, seven the number for perfection.
Psalm 12:
[FONT=arial,helvatica]6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. [/FONT][FONT=arial,helvatica]
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

So because the Bible is 400 years old it must be irrelevant?

I recommend these resources to you: The King James Bible Defended!
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[Stormcrow]

There were six English Bibles before the 1611 King James Bible. And of course if i lived before 1611 then i would have read one if possible. The King James Bible was the seventh, seven the number for perfection.
Psalm 12:
[FONT=arial,helvatica]6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. [/FONT][FONT=arial,helvatica]
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

So because the Bible is 400 years old it must be irrelevant? [/FONT]

Does your King James also instruct you to engage in the occultic practice of numerology to defend it?

Mine doesn't.

Just wondering.

 

[warfrog]

The beast, the man of lawlessness, the little horn, isnt satan, he gets his power, throne and great authority from satan, and are all destroyed by Christ at His coming because they are all one and the same.
Daniel 7:7-13, 15-28, 8:8-14, 15-26, 11:21-12:13
2Thessalonians 2:1-12
Revealtions 13:1-18, 17:1-18, 19:11-21

Satan isnt kicked out of heaven yet, satan is thrown out of heaven on the third woe.
The proclamation of the woes Revelation 8:13
the first woe passed Revelation 9:12
the second woe past Revelation 11:14
the third woe in Revelation 12:12

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Prince]

The beast, the man of lawlessness, the little horn, isnt satan, he gets his power, throne and great authority from satan, and are all destroyed by Christ at His coming because they are all one and the same.
Daniel 7:7-13, 15-28, 8:8-14, 15-26, 11:21-12:13
2Thessalonians 2:1-12
Revealtions 13:1-18 19:11-21

Satan isnt kicked out of heaven yet, satan is thrown out of heaven on the third woe.
The proclamation of the woes Revelation 8:13
the first woe passed Revelation 9:12
the second woe past Revelation 11:14
the third woe in Revelation 12:12

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Incorrect, the second beast seen in Revelation 13:11 is satan.

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Notice this beast spoke like the dragon, because he is the dragon.


9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[warfrog]

Incorrect, the second beast seen in Revelation 13:11 is satan.

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Notice this beast spoke like the dragon, because he is the dragon.


9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The second beast of revelations is the false prophet, the one who is granted power in the presence of the first beast.
It isnt satan.

Read the first beast, he is granted all power, a throne and great authority from the dragon and the second beast in the presence of the first beast is granted power that he may decieve.
The second beast does all his deceptive workings to decieve all people not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world to worship the first beast.
Neither of them are satan, but are granted his workings.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Prince]

The second beast of revelations is the false prophet, the one who is granted power in the presence of the first beast.
It isnt satan.

Read the first beast, he is granted all power, a throne and great authority from the dragon and the second beast in the presence of the first beast is granted power that he may decieve.
The second beast does all his deceptive workings to decieve all people not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world to worship the first beast.
Neither of them are satan, but are granted his workings.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

WBSG

The false prophet is satan is the beast....Just like we have a The father the son and the holy spirit are one. Satan the false prophet and the beast system are one.

Isa 14:12-16
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou [satan - antichrist] hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north [the north side of the Temple is always God’s place, the Holy of Holies]:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High [satan is saying that he shall be as Godm.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man [satan referred to as a man] that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms (KJV)

II Th 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (KJV)​

Do you see the correlation of the two persons mentioned in the Isaiah Scripture and the 2nd Thessalonians Scripture? It is one and the same entity, it is satan as the antichrist, his most formidable move ever upon God’s children.

I am unclear why you seem it to be so unrealistic that satan shall come and impersonate Jesus Christ as the antichrist prior to the return of the true Messiah Jesus Christ’ Second Advent. And I am equally unclear as to why it is so important for you to hang on to the assertion that the antichrist shall be a flesh man, born of woman, reared and taught on this earth in the normal fashion of men. It seems, to me, far more difficult to believe that the locust army, which are supernatural fallen angels (to be cast out of Heaven with satan in (Rev 12:9) would be subject to a mere mortal man on earth for their five month reign:

Rev 9:7-12
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. [This is futhur documentation that satan shall be the antichrist, for Abaddon and Apollyon are two of satan’s many names]
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. (KJV)​

Observe from the Strong’s concordance & Bible Dictionary:

Abaddon: Hebrew word #3 Abaddon (ab-ad-dohn'); of Hebrew origin [11]; a destroying angel: KJV-- Abaddon.

Apollyon: Greek word #623 Apolluon (ap-ol-loo'-ohn); active participle of 622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan): KJV-- Apollyon.​

There is so much more evidence that satan shall be the antichrist, we could go much deeper. And we could also reason it out by asking ourselves what satan shall be doing while some mere puny human is running the world, and we could also wonder why if satan is not the antichrist, then why was the Bible mute about him during the critical final days.

For you agree that satan is on earth in the end times, witnessed by your own admission that satan is cast into the Lake of Fire in (Rev 19:20) AFTER antichrist’s activities (although in reality, it is not satan that is cast into the Lake of Fire at that time but merely his role as antichrist (false prophet in Rev 19:20). Satan (the person, entity) is finally cast into the Lake of Fire completely in (Rev chpt. 20).

And remember, the antichrist is an impersonator of the true Jesus Christ, he shall have supernatural abilities to deceive, and even bring lightening down from Heaven on command:

Rev 13:12-14
12 And he [antichrist] exerciseth all the power of the first beast [one-world system - NWO] before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he [antichrist] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. (KJV)​

No Faye, this is no man here, it is satan himself! Let’s revisit the definition of the word antichrist:

Antichrist: Greek word #500 antichristos (an-tee'-khris-tos); from 473 and 5547; an opponent of the Messiah: KJV-- antichrist.

Anti: Greek word #473 anti (an-tee'); a primary particle; opposite, i.e. instead or because of (rarely in addition to):
KJV-- for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.

Christ: Greek word #5547 Christos (khris-tos'); from 5548; anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: KJV-- Christ.
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Please allow me to explain why it is imperative that you understand that satan shall be the antichrist. Most people accept the fact that there will be an antichrist who Jesus shall cast into the Pit at His Second Advent. The danger in identifying the antichrist as a man is that satan can then setup a man, a world leader of some sort, to appear to be the antichrist; then when the real antichrist (satan) comes, he can cast the imposter into the Pit and rule as Christ to a beguiled world. The whole world would accept him after that. That is the danger!

 

[warfrog]

WBSG

The false prophet is satan is the beast....Just like we have a The father the son and the holy spirit are one. Satan the false prophet and the beast system are one.

Isa 14:12-16
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou [satan - antichrist] hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north [the north side of the Temple is always God’s place, the Holy of Holies]:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High [satan is saying that he shall be as Godm.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man [satan referred to as a man] that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms (KJV)

II Th 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (KJV)
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Do you see the correlation of the two persons mentioned in the Isaiah Scripture and the 2nd Thessalonians Scripture? It is one and the same entity, it is satan as the antichrist, his most formidable move ever upon God’s children.

I am unclear why you seem it to be so unrealistic that satan shall come and impersonate Jesus Christ as the antichrist prior to the return of the true Messiah Jesus Christ’ Second Advent. And I am equally unclear as to why it is so important for you to hang on to the assertion that the antichrist shall be a flesh man, born of woman, reared and taught on this earth in the normal fashion of men. It seems, to me, far more difficult to believe that the locust army, which are supernatural fallen angels (to be cast out of Heaven with satan in (Rev 12:9) would be subject to a mere mortal man on earth for their five month reign:

Rev 9:7-12
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. [This is futhur documentation that satan shall be the antichrist, for Abaddon and Apollyon are two of satan’s many names]
12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. (KJV)
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Observe from the Strong’s concordance & Bible Dictionary:

Abaddon:Hebrew word #3 Abaddon (ab-ad-dohn'); of Hebrew origin [11]; a destroying angel: KJV-- Abaddon.

Apollyon: Greek word #623 Apolluon (ap-ol-loo'-ohn); active participle of 622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan): KJV-- Apollyon.
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There is so much more evidence that satan shall be the antichrist, we could go much deeper. And we could also reason it out by asking ourselves what satan shall be doing while some mere puny human is running the world, and we could also wonder why if satan is not the antichrist, then why was the Bible mute about him during the critical final days.

For you agree that satan is on earth in the end times, witnessed by your own admission that satan is cast into the Lake of Fire in (Rev 19:20) AFTER antichrist’s activities (although in reality, it is not satan that is cast into the Lake of Fire at that time but merely his role as antichrist (false prophet in Rev 19:20). Satan (the person, entity) is finally cast into the Lake of Fire completely in (Rev chpt. 20).

And remember, the antichrist is an impersonator of the true Jesus Christ, he shall have supernatural abilities to deceive, and even bring lightening down from Heaven on command:

Rev 13:12-14
12 And he [antichrist] exerciseth all the power of the first beast [one-world system - NWO] before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he [antichrist] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. (KJV)
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No Faye, this is no man here, it is satan himself! Let’s revisit the definition of the word antichrist:

Antichrist: Greek word #500 antichristos (an-tee'-khris-tos); from 473 and 5547; an opponent of the Messiah: KJV-- antichrist.

Anti: Greek word #473 anti (an-tee'); a primary particle; opposite, i.e. instead or because of (rarely in addition to):
KJV-- for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.

Christ: Greek word #5547 Christos (khris-tos'); from 5548; anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: KJV-- Christ.
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Please allow me to explain why it is imperative that you understand that satan shall be the antichrist. Most people accept the fact that there will be an antichrist who Jesus shall cast into the Pit at His Second Advent. The danger in identifying the antichrist as a man is that satan can then setup a man, a world leader of some sort, to appear to be the antichrist; then when the real antichrist (satan) comes, he can cast the imposter into the Pit and rule as Christ to a beguiled world. The whole world would accept him after that. That is the danger!

Greetings, im actually not unrealistic, the beast isnt satan, he does the workings of satan, it is the same relationship view as Christ to the Father.
the beast is a seperate man from satan, but has all workings of satan, that is why when the beast is worshipped they are worshipping the dragon.

When you accept Christ you accept God, when you worship Christ you are worshipping Him who sent Him.

That is the same relationship the beast and the dragon have, but they are not the same, the beast is a man and Satan is an angel, the beast is given all power, throne and great authority from satan and uses it likewise Christ was given all His power, throne and authority.

The false prophet does the same, paving the way for the beast, causing all to worship the beast in deception, having the power the beast is granted in the beast's presence.
The false prophet is a seperate man from the beast.

I'll read the rest of the post you gave but i wanted to clear that up right away, because you are misinterpreting what i am saying.

Ok i read the rest of your post and i am in complete disagreement because you are saying the beast is literally satan, he's not, if the beast was literally satan he wouldnt need to be given his power, throne and great authority, the Word would not say they worshiped the dragon because they followed the beast, they are seperate working as one, furthermore, when the beast and false prophet are captured at the coming of Christ they are thrown into the lake of fire, but satan is not, he is bound and sealed to be released after the thousand year reign of the resurrected in Christ.
"And the world marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshipped the beast"

Also im not a supporter of strong or any other book that claims to show you the way of the words of the bible, i am in complete understanding that any knowledge given to His is directly given from God through the Holy Spirit, so i wont involve myself with discussion to what strongs dictionary ext have to say, just so you know, incase you point out what strongs says about a word ext.

I'd also like to add, that all who are called by His name dont fear the coming of the lawless one at all, i do not fear the day he is revealed, if it is during my time then i know the kingdom is near, and that troubled times for the earth, the heavens, those who dwell on earth and those who have a home from heaven are upon us, but there is no fear of what will transpire, I groan for the return of the Lord.
"Even so, come Lord Jesus!"

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Prince]

You seem to have the 2 beast confused....

The first beast is a political system.


Revelation 13:1 "And I [John] stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
This is John's vision, and the sea that John is standing on and the beast is rising out of represents the masses of peoples of the world.

This symbol of the "sea" being people is documented in Revelation 17:15. This "sea", or masses of people are looking to this "beast" [political beast] as their peace system. The "seven heads" are seven dominions of the people, or seven continents of this world body; as even the activities and divisions at the North and South Poles are governed through the United Nations Charter. It covers the entire world land masses.

"Horns" are always symbolic of "power". These "ten horns" are ten agencies, or units of power flowing from this beast, or political system. These horns are the Military force, the world health organization, UNICEF for children, the world bank, the world court, and so on. This is very similar to the system of government given in Genesis 11, under Nimrod.

The second beast is satan...

Revelation 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

This beast coming up out of the earth looks like a Lamb [Jesus Christ], yet he speaks like a dragon; because he is the dragon [Satan]. He claims to be Jesus, and most Christians will believe him. He has plenty of sweet talk, blessings, wealth and what ever valued price you put on your soul, to sell your soul. Have you thought of what price you would put for your soul?

Revelation 13:12 "And he exerciseth all the power [authority] of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

Satan [the Antichrist] uses all the power and authority he has, because it is given to him by God. God allowed the "one worldism" to take place, because it is in God's plan. He gave us that plan, and that is what we are studying now. It is Satan that will cause the wounded political beast, "one world system" to come back together after it falls apart. Then that system, and all the people on the face of the earth will worship Satan. All, except the elect of God, and those sealed in their minds.

Revelation 13:13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."
Satan will snap his fingers and lightning will come down from heaven. Satan will bring miracles, and supernatural wonders with him, and these wonders are given by God to perform the test the people of the world.

Revelation 13:14 "And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles [signs] which he had power [it was given him] to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."

This is the whole object for the great tribulation. "DECEPTION"! Satan is going to make an image of this "one world system" [religious beast] and breath life into system. Their will be something symbolic created within the system that will cause the whole world to bow. This reminds me of the "image" created in Babylon's "one world government" under king Nebuchadnezzar, in Daniel 3. At that time there were only three that would not bow to the image.

Revelation 13:15 "And he had power [it was given unto him] to give life [breath] unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
Satan while sitting in his temple in Jerusalem is given the power to assign his authority to the new religious beast, the "one world system. He has been given the control of all the people on the earth, and he will require them to worship him as god. Satan [the Antichrist] will require their respect, and he will give protection to them and his system. So both the system, and the Antichrist will demand the respect and worship of all people.
This is in reference to the two witnesses that will be killed, for the trouble they caused to Satan, the people of the earth, and Satan's religious system.
The moment the political beast is healed, it becomes a religious order, and set of moral codes and controls. It will be a copy of Christ's kingdom that will follow, however, it is a complete deception, and cheap imitation.

Also im not a supporter of strong or any other book that claims to show you the way of the words of the bible, i am in complete understanding that any knowledge given to His is directly given from God through the Holy Spirit, so i wont involve myself with discussion to what strongs dictionary ext have to say, just so you know, incase you point out what strongs says about a word ext.

So in otherwards you speak no Greek nor Hebrew and are unwilling to consider what those who do have to say.....