Satan is the antichrist...

[Prince]

Because of a couple wording issues and false teachings many have been lead to believe that the antichrist will be some flesh man, this is not so, the antichrist will in fact be satan himself, claiming to be Jesus.

Lets start with a couple of points....

Satan has many names because he has many roles...

1) Lucifer this is satans name in the first earth age were he was a protecting cherub

Ezekiel 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

2) The tree of the knowledge of good and evil - this is satans name as he roams in the midst of the garden.

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

3) The serpent (or old serpent) this is satans name when he is lying..

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman

4) Satan is a adversary of God in General.

Job1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them

5) The Devil is satans name when he is tempting

Matthew 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

6) The dragon - this is satans name when he is starting wars..

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Satan also has many other names appolyon, false prophet, the beast, he is known as many things because he plays many roles but he is one entity, one person and he will return to the earth as the antichrist/false prophet claiming to be Jesus returned....

I will now go into scripture showing this.....

 

[Prince]

Rev 17:9-11
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The eight beast is satan - he "was" on earth, he is "not" at this present time and this eight beast satan will go into perditon.

notice that word "perdition"


3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

So we can cleary see that the eight beast (satan) is going into perdition and thus we have another name for satan "son of perdition" So dont let any man tell you the son of perdition is Judas or some other man, it is in fact satan.

Satan (son of perdition) was sentenced to perish long ago

Ezek 28:12-19
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty......(skip to verse 18)......
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes
Now lets take a look at just how this son of perdition (satan) will come down and play the role as antichrist.

 

[warfrog]

Because of a couple wording issues and false teachings many have been lead to believe that the antichrist will be some flesh man, this is not so, the antichrist will in fact be satan himself, claiming to be Jesus.

Because of a few false teachings leaving me in bondage to work from my own hands it took the Lord a long time to wait for the day I would let Him show me instead of demanding myself to figure it out and pushing Him out of the way.
Thinking the man of lawlessness was satan, was one of them.

The man of lawlessness, is a man, a man who recieves Satans power, throne and great authority.
He's a man who convinces the whole world (those not His) that he is God and he will sit in the temple of God claiming himself God.
A man who will have a mortal wound, but be healed and the world will marvel.
A man who will go directly into the lake of fire with his false prophet at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Prince]

Because of a few false teachings leaving me in bondage to work from my own hands it took the Lord a long time to wait for the day I would let Him show me instead of demanding myself to figure it out and pushing Him out of the way.
Thinking the man of lawlessness was satan, was one of them.

The man of lawlessness, is a man, a man who recieves Satans power, throne and great authority.
He's a man who convinces the whole world (those not His) that he is God and he will sit in the temple of God claiming himself God.
A man who will have a mortal wound, but be healed and the world will marvel.
A man who will go directly into the lake of fire with his false prophet at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Because of a few false teachings leaving me in bondage to work from my own hands it took the Lord a long time to wait for the day I would let Him show me instead of demanding myself to figure it out and pushing Him out of the way.
Thinking the man of lawlessness was satan, was one of them.

Sorry you feel that way, perhaps you should reconsider your posistion, for if the Lord had revealed truth to you, you would indeed have truth.

The man of lawlessness, is a man, a man who recieves Satans power, throne and great authority.

You speak of your own accord, not of the word of God..

Satan has but a short time

Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

When satan arrives he will not give his power to a man, he wants to be worshipped satan wants the glory, and satan only has a short time to get that glory.

He's a man who convinces the whole world (those not His) that he is God and he will sit in the temple of God claiming himself God.

You have such a demanding overtone with such little scripture..

Revelation 13 tells us a beast comes out of the earth.

11And I beheld another beast (satan) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

This beast "satan has 2 horns like a lamb because he is trying imitate the Lamb (Jesus) that was slain for us..

Revelation 5:12
Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain (Jesus) to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Although satan will look like Jesus he speaks like a dragon because he is a dragon.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

The 2ncd beast coming up is satan he comes up after the first beast - he will look like Jesus act like Jesus but he speaks as a dragon and the sheepo know the voice of there master.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

A man who will have a mortal wound, but be healed and the world will marvel

Once again you throw blind incorrect statements out there - know man recives the womb, not even satan recieves the womb, the womb is recieved by the 1st beast "political one world order"

1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Does you man have 7 heads ????? LOL

When the 1st beast (NWO) rises to power it will not be able to complete the new order, there will be something holding it back, giving it a wound, perhaps christians perhaps terroist at any rate it is the system that recieves the womb not a man!!!.

A man who will go directly into the lake of fire with his false prophet at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ

You still are having trouble understanding satan plays roles, one of his roles is the false prophet.

 

[Prince]

WSBG - I think I know what isn’t sitting well with you. Satan has many many names, I could pull at least 10 off the top of my head and probably another 4-5 with some searching. These names are ‘roles’ of the same one entity. You remember in (Rev chpt.17) where it is talking about satan and his many roles, but it is the same one entity:

Rev 17:9-11
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (KJV)
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Who is the only one by name that has already been judged to perdition? Satan is:

Ezek 28:18-19
18 Thou[king of Tyrus - satan] hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. [perished completely, perdition] (KJV)
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Satan is the king of Babylon: "MYSTERY BABYLON" {Rev 17:5}. Look at it this way, Jesus has many names and roles but there is only one Jesus Christ (“Bread of Life”, “Lamb slain”, “King of kings and Lord of lords”, ...). And in (Rev chpt. 2 &3), in the preface to each message to the seven churches we see different names and roles for Jesus. Well, for every positive in the Word of God there is a negative.

Let’s follow satan through the end times and observe the destruction of him one role at a time until there is nothing left - perished, the son of perdition.

Rev 19:14-20
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. [This is the Second Advent]
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast [2nd beast of (Rev 13:11) antichrist], and the kings of the earth [1st beast of (Rev 13:1-3). The one world political/religious luciferian system (NWO)], and their armies, gathered together to make war against him [Jesus] that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast [1st beast of (Rev 13:1-3). The one world political/religious luciferian system (NWO)] was taken, and with him the false prophet [2nd beast of (Rev 13:11) antichrist] that wrought miracles before him [‘It’ In the Greek language (the original language of the New Testament), he, she, and it are all the same word, the value of the word comes from the context of the passage], with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. [from this point on, satan no longer has the cover of appearing as the impostor christ antichrist. And he does not have his one-world system either] (KJV)
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You have to remember, at Jesus Christ’s return at His Second Advent, all are changed into spiritual bodies. That has happened in our above Scripture.

The next event regarding satan is his binding in the Bottomless Pit for the Millennium (1000 year period):

Rev 20:2-3
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. (KJV)
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After the Millennium, satan is released for a short time and then he is completely destroyed in the Lake of Fire by God Himself.

Rev 20:10
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (KJV)
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Satan is now almost altogether gone, he still has one more role to die, that being ‘death’, for death is one of satan’s many many names:

Heb 2:14
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil (KJV)
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Ok, then after Judgment Day, even death is destroyed:

Rev 20:14
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. (KJV)
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The Lake of Fire is used as metaphor for complete and total irreversible destruction, it isn’t a literal lake somewhere, it is the final sentence for the wicked, both wicked souls and wicked things, for all that offends shall be cast into the Lake of Fire.

And we have seen the one-world political system cast into the Lake of Fire, as well as several of satan’s roles. Flesh and blood cannot be cast into the Lake of Fire, for none enter therein until after Judgment Day. On Judgment Day all are in spiritual bodies. The Lake of Fire is what people commonly think they refer to when they say “hell”, but hell is a very misunderstood thing. Hell is not an eternal torture chamber, but an eternal blotting out. “Hell” so-called (the Lake of Fire) is the death of a soul, which is the second death. (I say “hell, so-called”, because in the Bible the word hell actually means the grave and/or the smoldering garbage pit outside of Jerusalem. It does paint the picture for us though, does it not?):

Rev 20:14
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. (KJV)
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You remember that there are two bodies within each of us, a flesh body and a spiritual body. The flesh body dies in the first death, and the spiritual body dies in the second (if you don’t overcome).

1 Cor 15:44
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. (KJV)
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We have an indepth study of the entire 20th chapter of the book of Revelation that covers satan’s roles in great detail, you may like to check it out:

Revelation Chapter 20: The twentieth chapter of the book of Revelation (known as the Millennial chapter) is perhaps one of the more misinterpreted chapters in the Bible. And understandably so, as it covers events so diverse, such as some end-time events which happen at the Second Advent of Jesus Christ, the re-incarceration of satan into the Bottomless Pit, then on into the 1000 year teaching time (Millennium), then witnesses satan being released again from the Pit to test those taught in the Millennium, then God destroying the remaining evil, casting satan into the lake of Fire (Hell), and on into Judgment day, and the lake of Fire (Hell) for those of us who do not overcome. So to say that it is an interesting chapter is surely an understatement!
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God bless!

 

[warfrog]

Sorry you feel that way, perhaps you should reconsider your posistion, for if the Lord had revealed truth to you, you would indeed have truth.



You speak of your own accord, not of the word of God..

Satan has but a short time

Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

When satan arrives he will not give his power to a man, he wants to be worshipped satan wants the glory, and satan only has a short time to get that glory.



You have such a demanding overtone with such little scripture..

Revelation 13 tells us a beast comes out of the earth.

11And I beheld another beast (satan) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

This beast "satan has 2 horns like a lamb because he is trying imitate the Lamb (Jesus) that was slain for us..

Revelation 5:12
Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain (Jesus) to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Although satan will look like Jesus he speaks like a dragon because he is a dragon.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

The 2ncd beast coming up is satan he comes up after the first beast - he will look like Jesus act like Jesus but he speaks as a dragon and the sheepo know the voice of there master.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:



Once again you throw blind incorrect statements out there - know man recives the womb, not even satan recieves the womb, the womb is recieved by the 1st beast "political one world order"

1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Does you man have 7 heads ????? LOL

When the 1st beast (NWO) rises to power it will not be able to complete the new order, there will be something holding it back, giving it a wound, perhaps christians perhaps terroist at any rate it is the system that recieves the womb not a man!!!.



You still are having trouble understanding satan plays roles, one of his roles is the false prophet.

I speak of my own accord, when i spoke literally of what He says?
Really? are you sure you have the authority to say something like that?
Look at what you qouted and then said i said by my own words, those are His words, look in His word and tell me it does not say exactly what i typed.
2nd Thessalonians 9

I'll regard the rest of your post when we get past this first part.
If you can show me where i spoke of the flesh regarding what you qouted in that second part where you said i speak as a man when i used scripture reference ill accept it.
So lets handle this for now an then we can move on and continue.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Prince]

The things you speak dont line up with scripture

II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,"
Paul is now getting to the purpose for this second letter. Paul reminded them of his first letter to them, of Christ returning and our gathering back to Him. Because of the misunderstanding that could be drawn from the first letter, he writes the following.
It's important in this final generation that we pay attention for this will happen during our life time. The subject again of this letter is; "our gathering back to Christ".
II Thessalonians 2:2 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is [the Lord is just] at hand."
Paul doesn't want you to misunderstand what he is about to say. This is why he makes it plain and simple; Paul told them not to confuse what he is saying here with any other teaching, or spirit, or even that first letter from him. This is because there was a confusing part in the first letter where false teachers had crept in and twisted Paul's words. The prime example of this today is the twisting of that first letter by the "rapture theorist", to form the trap that has been set for Christians in this final generation.
Paul is saying, don't let anyone trouble you [confuse you], and tell you that the "day of Christ" is at hand. The "day of Christ [the Lord]" is the day when Jesus Christ will return to earth, and gather His saints to Him. This gathering will happen at the sounding of the seventh trumpet. This is one of those tradition's of men [false doctrines] that can deceive you.
II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come [it will not be], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
Jesus Christ is not gathering anyone to Him, nor is He coming here to earth, except there be a falling away first. The word for "falling away", in the Greek is "apostasy". Jesus told us in His revelation to John, in Revelation 9:11, that "Apollyon" is one of Satan's names, and this name is derived from the word apostasy.
The word "perdition" means "one that perishes". Satan and only Satan has already been condemned to die [to perish] by God. Satan's judgment day has come already back in the first earth age, and he will have no part in the Great White Throne judgment, or any other judgment yet to come. He has already been judged, and sentence by God to death "perdition" [Ezekiel 28 covers this judgment].
What did Paul say again?
Jesus Christ is coming back to this earth, but the saints of Christ will not be gathered to Him until the "son of perdition" [Satan] be revealed first. How will we know who he is when he arrives?
Revelation 17:8 "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is [shall come]."
This beast "thou [John] sawest", was in the first earth age; and is not on this earth now, as it is written in Revelation 12:7. Satan is in heaven being our accuser, and will be cast out to this earth very shortly by Michael.
"And shall ascend out of the bottomless pit; and go into perdition;" Who is he again? He is Satan the Antichrist. Satan is not a man born of woman, but a "supernatural arch angel". In Ezekiel 28 it is written that Satan [Lucifer] is the most beautiful of all God's created beings.
In Isaiah 14:12; "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lu'-ci-fer [day star], son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" Lucifer then is another name for Satan; he is also called the Dragon, the serpent, and many other names accounting for the roles he plays, and in our generation he will also be called the "Antichrist".
Isaiah 14:13; "For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:"
Satan is saying, I'm going to be God, and be above the sons [stars] of God. The "mount of the congregation" is on mount Zion; and that is "the side of the north" where Jesus Christ's temple will be.
Isaiah 14:14; "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Satan is saying again, he is going to be God.
Isaiah 14:15; "Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell [sheol], to the sides of the pit."
Who is this that is going into the pit? Who is this son of perdition? It is Lucifer, who is Satan, the "son of perdition". The "son of perdition" of II Thessalonians 2:3 is none other than Satan himself, coming to earth to play the role of Jesus Christ. Paul then is saying that the true Christ, Jesus Christ, will not return to earth until this "apostasy" takes place first.
Isaiah 14:16; "They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;"
Following Jesus Christ's return to earth, and when the Antichrist [Satan] is safely in the pit; the world will wonder; how could Satan have shook all the kingdoms? They simply can't believe that they were deceived into believing this man to be God. Are you going to be one of those deceived into believing Satan is the Christ, or do you know the difference?
Paul is saying to the Thessalonians that Jesus Christ will not come, or will their be a gathering of the saints until you see the Antichrist [son of perdition] first. It takes a lot of guts to take the word of a false preacher, over Paul, Jesus, John, Isaiah, and a whole host of other prophets and disciples. This "apostasy" [falling away] is caused by the "son of perdition", and you will see him live and in person, very shortly.
II Thessalonians 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."
The "Son of perdition" is Satan and Isaiah just told us this very same thing. Remember, the temple of God is on mount Zion, and "on the side of the North". This person sitting there is sitting in God's seat, pretending to be God: "Showing himself that he is God."
Do you know what Jesus said about this very thing. Jesus called it in Matthew 24:15, the very same thing that Daniel called it in Daniel 9:27; "the Abomination of desolation". A more correct translation in the "James Moffatt translation Bible" is called "The abomination by the desolator".
"Satan claiming to be God" is the abomination, and "he" [Satan] is the desolator, for the entire world will believe him; except for God's elect, and all those who have the seal of God in their minds [foreheads]. The sealed of God have their gospel armor on, and they are ready to face Satan and his system in the spiritual warfare.
Does the "rapture theory" still look inviting to you? If it does, friend, your in a heap of trouble. This is not me talking, but Paul; for he is warning you to be watching out for the Antichrist, for he is a copy of exactly what you expect of Christ. The Antichrist [Satan] will have supernatural powers, and he will come first, before our Lord Jesus Christ.
We are given the exact time of the Antichrist's arrival upon the earth in Revelation 9:1. It is at the sounding of the FIFTH TRUMPET. The trumpets are sounded in order, and the fifth trumpet is prior to the seventh. It can't be that hard to understand. Satan will be God to all the people of the world, including all Christians who do NOT have the seal of God in their minds [foreheads], to know the truth. The fall is because they will not take the simplicity and understanding in which Christ taught.
The whole purpose for Paul to write the II Thessalonians letter, was to warn that church, as well as the churches of today, of the errors in teaching that others were making of his first letter. Don't expect Christ's return to soon, for these things of II Thessalonians 2:1-4 must take place first.
II Thessalonians 2:5 "Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?"

 

[Prince]

II Thessalonians 2:6 "And now ye know what withholdeth [that which restraineth to the end] that he might be revealed in his time [own season]."
"And now", is Paul's reminder to them that they did talk about this when he was with them in person. Who then is this one that would "be revealed in his time?"

The subject here is "the son of perdition", Satan, the Antichrist, or what ever name you desire to use for him. He is Satan, and Satan will commit the "abomination of desolation" of Daniel 9:27; and the church will be here to see it, because the "gathering", or Christ's return follows this.

II Thessalonians 2:7 "For the mystery of iniquity [lawlessness] doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
There is no mystery around when this will take place, for we will know his methods of operation [withholdeth], and the signs, the seasons, and the times of Satan's arrival to earth. If you are in the Word of God and not following these "one verse preachers", you will know when to expect the Antichrist. You will also know within hours of when to expect our Lord Jesus Christ's return. Satan's reign on earth is not seven years because God reduced that time to five months for the "elect's" sake, as Jesus told us in Matthew 24:22. Jesus also revealed that the time is shortened to five months, to John in

Revelation 9:5, and 10.
The "mystery of lawlessness" is the mystery of iniquity. "He who now letteth will let"; in the Greek should be translated; "He who holds fast [ketcho] will stand." The ellipsis, or "omission from an expression of a word clearly implied"; "There is one who hold's fast", instead of by repeating the verb, "will let". However, "katecho" is a transitive verb, and an object must be supplied also. So if the subject in verse six is Satan, then the object must be his position in the heavenlies [see Ephesians 6:12], from which he will be ejected from heaven by Michael [Revelation 12:7-9].

"Out of the way", in the Greek is "out of ek", or "the midst". It is the same expression used in Acts 17:33, and I Corinthians 5:2.

Many "rapture theorists" claim this one who "letteth" is the Holy Spirit, and they claim that when He is "taken away", then the Antichrist will come. By reversing the role of the characters in the verses here, and attributing what is Satan's to the Holy Spirit, you have a whole new doctrine called the "Any moment doctrine". This false doctrine is better known as the "rapture theory". It is dangerous to play around with a foreign language; and when the flock relies upon their shepherd for the truth, and the shepherd is assumed to be correct; in ignorance it is accepted just because he said it.

It is Michael who "holds fast" on to Lucifer [the Antichrist], and Michael will continue to keep Lucifer held until the appointed time, spoken of above. That time is appointed by God. Then at the appointed time God will give Satan the keys [authority] to release his fallen angels and they will be cast to the earth [see Revelation 9:1-10]. Let's take a look at the one [Michael] who holds on to Satan now.

Revelation 12:7; "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels," Michael [that is who the "he" is in II Thessalonians 2:7 and his [Michael's] angels fought against the dragon [another name for Satan] and his [Satan's] fallen angels.
Revelation 12:8; "And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven." This war took place in heaven, and that is where Satan and his angels are now; though Satan's spirit, and demonic spirits are all over the earth today. Now we will see what Michael does with Satan, in fulfilling II Thessalonians 2:7.
Revelation 12:9; "And the great dragon [Satan] was cast out [that is the transitive verb of verse seven], that old serpent [this is the role Satan played in the Garden of Eden], called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world [except for God's elect]: he was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

This is when Satan will physically appear on earth as a man with his angels. This is the time of the Antichrist's coming, and we must know when this time is by when these events takes place, for Satan comes at the sixth trumpet.
Then the verse picks up where Satan is standing in the holy place. Satan's object is to deceive all the world, and have the world take his markings in their minds. God's Word thus says that Satan will come to earth and stand in that Holy place, before Christ will come and gather anyone back to Himself.

II Thessalonians 2:8 "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit [breath] of his mouth, and shall destroy [bring to naught] with the brightness [manifestation] of his coming:"

"The wicked" is better translated, "wicked one": What comes out of the Lord's mouth? It is the Truth. That is also the Word that God put in the mouth of Paul in this writing. Satan shall then be destroyed after being cast out, and also after standing in the holy place. After this is the time of Jesus Christ coming and gathering of His saints. There is no "anytime doctrine" here. It is in the course of certain events, and God lets us know clearly the order of these events, and exactly what to expect. In Matthew 24:15 Jesus is saying exactly what Paul is saying, Satan will come first and reign before the gathering of the saints.
Then Christ will destroy Satan.

II Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Sa'-tan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"
"Even him" also includes Satan's religious beast system. Satan's religious system will be present with Satan. The religious beast is discussed in

Revelation 13, and this the religious role that gives support and authority to Satan. If you believe in the Rapture theory, you will take part in that role. Many Christians will assume Satan to be Christ when they visible witness the supernatural powers he possess, and the deceptions that will take place, all except God's elect.

II Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness [deceit] of unrighteousness in [for] them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,"

God is writing this letter to us personally, and we are responsible for understanding it. We are accountable to God to give answer for our actions. It is you and I, individually, that will stand before God and give our personal answer for the personal handling of His Word. There will be no preacher, friend or family member with you on that judgment day, for they will all be explaining and accounting for their own words and actions. If your pastor is one of the false shepherds, and led many saints astray, his ignorance won't help him or you.
This is something we must think about, our souls are at stake here.

 

[Prince]

I speak of my own accord, when i spoke literally of what He says?
Really? are you sure you have the authority to say something like that?
Look at what you qouted and then said i said by my own words, those are His words, look in His word and tell me it does not say exactly what i typed.
2nd Thessalonians 9

I'll regard the rest of your post when we get past this first part.
If you can show me where i spoke of the flesh regarding what you qouted in that second part where you said i speak as a man when i used scripture reference ill accept it.
So lets handle this for now an then we can move on and continue.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

If you can show me where i spoke of the flesh

I didnt say you spoke of your flesh, I said your own accord... And yes it does seem to me that you speak in this manner.

You open your bible to 2 thess and you see the word "man"

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

You have assumed that this is a regular man, becasue it says man, you have not bothered to do any research regarding.... If you were to turn to the book of Isaiah chp 14 you would find

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, (satan) son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I (satan) will ascend into heaven, I (satan) will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I (satan) will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14I (satan) will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I (satan) will be like the most High.
15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the
man (satan) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Notice this chp is speaking of Lucifer (satan) but here in verse 16 God calls satan a man..

 

[Prince]

(WSBG) For it is very important to know who the antichrist is. If we are looking for an evil human to be the antichrist, then satan could take advantage of that and set-up some ruler or some Pope to appear to be the antichrist so that he (satan, the real antichrist) can come here and remove that one thus establishing himself (satan/antichrist) as the Messiah from God come to save the world. This would be very deceiving to the Christian in the end times indeed!

Ok, now I know that you know that the word antichrist doesn't mean like we use the word antifreeze. 'Anti' in the Greek means "instead of", an impostor:

From the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance:

Antichrist: Greek word #500 antichristos (an-tee'-khris-tos); from #473 and #5547; an opponent of the Messiah: KJV-- antichrist.

Anti: Greek word #473 anti (an-tee'); a primary particle; opposite, i.e. instead or because of (rarely in addition to): KJV-- for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.

Christ: Greek word #5547 Christos (khris-tos'); from 5548; anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: KJV-- Christ.
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Ok, now if we can find some common ground to start on, I think we can come into agreement as to the identity of this one we refer to as the antichrist.

I think that that most people (including both you and I) can agree that the one spoken of in the second half of Revelation chapter thirteen is the antichrist:

Rev 13:11-18
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb [he looked like Jesus Christ the true Lamb], and he spake as a dragon [because he is the dragon (one of satan's many names)].
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (KJV)
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Ok, are we all in agreement that that was the antichrist just spoken of? I trust we are all in agreement on that. Now let's see if we can find Scripture to further expound on just who this antichrist is. Let's go to chapter 12 of this book of Revelation. The below Scripture has not yet happened, St. John writes it as though it is past because he was taken to the future in the spirit and shown things that will happen in the end-times, many of them still future yet to us as the below Scripture is:

Rev 12:7-12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels
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Here we see where satan is at the present time, he is in Heaven with God, but he is incarcerated and held in chains. Heaven is simply wherever God is. Don't be confused that satan is in the glorious eternity, which is written of in {Rev 21:1- on out}
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8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
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Ok, can we all agree that this is saying that satan (who goes by many many names, four of them given above in one Scripture even) is cast to earth with his angels? His (satan's) angels are the fallen angels, for they fall with satan as they also fell in {Gen 6:1-2}, and condemned in {Jude 1:6, and 2nd Pet 2:4}, and spoken of by Christ in {Mt 25:41}. These fallen angels are the locust army of {Rev 9:3}. Are we in agreement thus far?
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10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down [cast to earth. The " accuser" is another of satan's names (roles), for satan accuses us daily before the Lord], which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them [because satan is no longer in Heaven, he has been cast to earth physically, defacto! (in our near future this shall be fulfilled)]. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time [5 months (Rev 9:5 & 9:10)]. (KJV)

Ok, here we saw that satan is cast down to the earth in the final times, and when he comes he has a short while, and he is wrathful to go about his task.
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If this is not the antichrist from the first Scripture that we first looked at {Rev 13:11-18}, then where is this ''cast down one'' written of? Surely the Scriptures in the book of Revelation would not mention satan's arrival on earth and then be mute about what he does after he is cast down having great wrath (the Great Tribulation) would they?

Of course not, he is the antichrist (the beast) written of in our prior Scripture {Rev 13:11-18}. The one who looks like Jesus the Lamb: "and he had two horns like a lamb" {Rev 13:11}, the one who spoke like the dragon (satan/antichrist) because he was satan, he was the dragon: "and he spake as a dragon" {Rev 13:11}, the one with who has supernatural abilities: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast" {Rev 13:13-14}, the one who controls the New World Order beast system from {Rev 13:1-3}: "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." {Rev 13:12}, the one who causes all to take the mark of the beast (spiritual mark, it is not a tattoo, computer chip...): "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads" {Rev 13:16}, the one who's number is: "and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" {Rev 13:18}.


PS: There are two beasts in the thirteenth chapter of Revelation. And it is the FIRST beast that receives the deadly wound, NOT the antichrist as often supposed. The Antichrist (the second beast - Rev 13:11 "another beast") is the one who HEALS the deadly wound. Attributing the deeds of one beast to the other beast causes much confusion in the matter.

 

[warfrog]

I didnt say you spoke of your flesh, I said your own accord... And yes it does seem to me that you speak in this manner.

You open your bible to 2 thess and you see the word "man"

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

You have assumed that this is a regular man, becasue it says man, you have not bothered to do any research regarding.... If you were to turn to the book of Isaiah chp 14 you would find

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, (satan) son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I (satan) will ascend into heaven, I (satan) will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I (satan) will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14I (satan) will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I (satan) will be like the most High.
15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the
man (satan) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Notice this chp is speaking of Lucifer (satan) but here in verse 16 God calls satan a man..

No i dont actually open my bible look there and see "man", i look in daniel and revelations also in concordance with 2ns Thessalonians, thats what i do.
All 3 show me one person in seperation from satan and seperation from the beast of the earth (false prophet) and that is what i see, and i see a refrence to a singular person.


We know exactly what Satan does, he starts a war in heaven, literally a type of war and is thrown out, which if we look further is confirmed in the 3rd woe of Revelations for when he is thrown out.
I'm do not disagree with you at all regarding Satan wanting to exalt himself, why do you think he decieves so many? pride, and he takes great pride in his work.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[NJBeliever]

Harold Camping alert.

The notion that Satan is the antichrist is straight from Camping's book. It's an incorrect Biblical intepretation.

As already mentioned, the antichrist is a man.

2. The Beast spirit that indwells the antichrist comes from the bottomless pit:

Revelation 17 8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

Revelation 11: 7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them,

Satan is not in the bottomless pit. He is presently authorized to roam the Earth or enter Heaven (Job 2). He will not be forced to leave Heaven until the Great Tribulation (Revelation 12) at which time he will be forced down to Earth, not the bottomless pit.

3. Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet are described as 3 separate beings in Scripture:

Revelation 16: 13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

4. Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet have separate and VASTLY DIFFERENT punishments in the Bible:

Revelation 19:19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20: 1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

At the Battle of Aramgeddon, the antichrist and false prophet are case into the lake of fire after being killed. They are no more and sent to eternal punishment. Satan is NOT killed or cast into the lake of fire. He is clearly locked in the bottomless pit (which is a prison, not the final place of punishment) for 1,000 years at which point he is released for a season.

Three clearly separate beings. There is no way of logically or grammatically interpreting the text any other way. God bless.

 

[Prince]

Harold Camping alert.

The notion that Satan is the antichrist is straight from Camping's book. It's an incorrect Biblical intepretation.

As already mentioned, the antichrist is a man.

2. The Beast spirit that indwells the antichrist comes from the bottomless pit:

Revelation 17 8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

Revelation 11: 7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them,

Satan is not in the bottomless pit. He is presently authorized to roam the Earth or enter Heaven (Job 2). He will not be forced to leave Heaven until the Great Tribulation (Revelation 12) at which time he will be forced down to Earth, not the bottomless pit.

3. Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet are described as 3 separate beings in Scripture:

Revelation 16: 13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

4. Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet have separate and VASTLY DIFFERENT punishments in the Bible:

Revelation 19:19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20: 1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

At the Battle of Aramgeddon, the antichrist and false prophet are case into the lake of fire after being killed. They are no more and sent to eternal punishment. Satan is NOT killed or cast into the lake of fire. He is clearly locked in the bottomless pit (which is a prison, not the final place of punishment) for 1,000 years at which point he is released for a season.

Three clearly separate beings. There is no way of logically or grammatically interpreting the text any other way. God bless.

Harold Camping alert.

Please save the alarms for adequate times....

The notion that Satan is the antichrist is straight from Camping's book. It's an incorrect Biblical intepretation.

NO NO NO NO NO

Im surely not a follower nor a student of Camping.... I am not in agreement with him on major issues of the word!!!!

As already mentioned, the antichrist is a man.

O how untrue this is, lets see some scripture...

2. The Beast spirit that indwells the antichrist comes from the bottomless pit:

Revelation 17 8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

Revelation 11: 7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them,

ok

Satan is not in the bottomless pit. He is presently authorized to roam the Earth or enter Heaven (Job 2).

Let me stop you right there, you must rightly divide the word - satan was once free to roam the earth but a the present moment satan has not been released, he is being held..

10 And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accuseth them before our God day and night.

12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The rest of your post in all over the place - satan is the antichrist and I have given scripture proving this on this thread and other threads...

 

[Prince]

No i dont actually open my bible look there and see "man", i look in daniel and revelations also in concordance with 2ns Thessalonians, thats what i do.
All 3 show me one person in seperation from satan and seperation from the beast of the earth (false prophet) and that is what i see, and i see a refrence to a singular person.


We know exactly what Satan does, he starts a war in heaven, literally a type of war and is thrown out, which if we look further is confirmed in the 3rd woe of Revelations for when he is thrown out.
I'm do not disagree with you at all regarding Satan wanting to exalt himself, why do you think he decieves so many? pride, and he takes great pride in his work.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

No i dont actually open my bible look there and see "man", i look in daniel and revelations also in concordance with 2ns Thessalonians, thats what i do.

Ok

All 3 show me one person in seperation from satan and seperation from the beast of the earth (false prophet) and that is what i see, and i see a refrence to a singular person.

But you are yet to understand that satan plays roles.... In the garden he palyed the role of the serpent, in the endtime he will play the role of the false prophet claiming to be God...

When Christ arrives the role of false prophet will not exist, becuase all people willl know Christ is Christ, Jesus will throw the role of false prophet into the lake along with the beast system...

I'm do not disagree with you at all regarding Satan wanting to exalt himself, why do you think he decieves so many

Satan has been decieving for ages.... He is very good at it...

 

[warfrog]

Ok



But you are yet to understand that satan plays roles.... In the garden he palyed the role of the serpent, in the endtime he will play the role of the false prophet claiming to be God...

When Christ arrives the role of false prophet will not exist, becuase all people willl know Christ is Christ, Jesus will throw the role of false prophet into the lake along with the beast system...



Satan has been decieving for ages.... He is very good at it...

How do i not understand that Satan plays roles?

He gives his power to the beast, a throne and great authority. Pretty big role.
The false prophet also gets power in the presence of the first beast. That power was from Satan, again another huge role.

The world marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast saying, "Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"
They worshiped the Satan through the beast because Satan gave the beast the position of authority, power and throne in the first place. Another huge role.

I have no problems understanding the role of Satan.
That role will not be as the false prophet, it will be as the one who gives power, throne and great authority to the beast and the false prophet also gets what satan gives the beast when he is in the presence of the beast.
Satan is not literally the false prophet, he is the orchestrator of what the false prophet is given because the false prophet is given his deceptiveness in the presence of the first beast who is given his deceptiveness from Satan.

When Christ arrives everyones going to die in this flesh, even His saints.
Flesh does not inherit the kingdom, therefore these bodies will not remain, when we are changed in the twinkling of an eye that change is literally what we would call death of the flesh, because it will go away and we will recieve likewise bodies to what He also rose in, the incorruption.
So not only will all who have the mark of the beast die, all those who are His that remain will also technically die for a twinkling of an eye, because this body has to pass in order to recieve the inheritance.
The beast and false prophet will not stand before a throne in judgement, they will go straight to the fire, the rest of the dead will be bundled up and await the time of the great white throne judgement when all the dead are judged, the last being Death.
Satan will be bound for a thousand years.
The saints will stand before the thrones and be judged for all the good and bad done in thier bodies, they will then live and reign with Christ for a thousand years.

Thats whats going to happen when Christ comes.
Glory to God and the Lord Jesus Christ forever and ever.Amen.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[mrbasserby]

hi
forgive my bad English
what prince said is most it is true islam religion also confirm that's Antichrist is the Satan and in the end time he pretend to be God to fool ppl and in quran statement we find Satan promised God that he will seduce all ppl except who truly is faithful to God the servant sincere and purified and god said to Satan that you don't have authority to control my servant except who follow your wrong path all of you shall get punished...
also quran mentioned a hidden world underground which we call it the hollow earth and the Satan Antichrist with the right time he shall came from the hollow earth to the surface of earth to seduce the ppl and in that time will be the toughest days ever humanity face it but prince i have question to you if you answer it my respect will increase to you ,
do you know why Satan didn't obey God until now ??
and didn't you ask your self from where the ufo came from ??
and why they want us to think that ufo are from the space ??
they don't want us to think about the inner earth because if we as public knew about it then Satan plan will be failed so they are very carefully with the public in subjects like ufo and hollow earth
may god bless you

 

[hisvessel1]

Because of a couple wording issues and false teachings many have been lead to believe that the antichrist will be some flesh man, this is not so, the antichrist will in fact be satan himself, claiming to be Jesus.
This isn't what i've read.

1) Lucifer this is satans name in the first earth age were he was a protecting cherub.

First earth age?

 

[Sinthesis]

First earth age?

Some have developed for themselves an entire "Christian" mythology that would make Tolkien blush.

 

[n2thelight]

Originally Posted by hisvessel1
First earth age?

Sinthesis



Some have developed for themselves an entire "Christian" mythology that would make Tolkien blush.

Oh it's not a myth,there was an age before this one.....

 

[Sinthesis]

Originally Posted by hisvessel1
First earth age?



Oh it's not a myth,there was an age before this one.....

Depending on definitions and relationships a previous age can indeed be true, but the first earth age you promote is myth.