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satans ministers transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

gordon777

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In a non believing in righteousness atheistic world, it is normal to have contention, strife, pride, wrath, scorners.

Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, try to have unity among themselves, or how would they see themselves as having something better than an Atheist ?

But when Christians have contention and strife, pride, wrath and scorn, daily on a Christian forum, who are the ones responsible for beginning and carrying on that misrepresentation of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit ?




Proud lips have to be silenced, God hides the righteous from the contemptuous, keeps them secretly from the strife of tongues.

The wrathful man stirs up strife, but those slow to anger appease that strife.

The beginning of strife, becomes contention, it has to be left off, before it is meddled with. Casting out the scorner ( who stirs up strife) and contention shall go out, strife and reproach shall cease. Where no talebearer is, the strife ceases.




Psalm 31:18 Let the lying lips be put to silence; which speak grievous things proudly and contemptuously against the righteous.
19 Oh how great is thy goodness, which thou hast laid up for them that fear thee; which thou hast wrought for them that trust in thee before the sons of men!
20 Thou shalt hide them in the secret of thy presence from the pride of man: thou shalt keep them secretly in a pavilion from the strife of tongues.

Proverbs 15:18 A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.

Proverbs 17:14 The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.

Proverbs 22:10 Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease.

Proverbs 26:20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.




Not only those who daily create threads for scorn, strife, contention, debate, claim that this is how the Epistles were, the Ops, moderators,, administrators, support that position, and speak the same thing, that debate is normal, and they wont hear any form of correction to what they have done for many many years daily in the name of Christianity.

That is understandable, because when a place and people are filled with all unrighteousness, they will be malicious, full of envy, full of murder, debate, malignity, whisperers. ( Gods word fulfilled in them)

But that is not walking honestly, when in strife and envying.

It is not being Spiritual, it is being carnal, to have among them envying, strife, divisions.

There are debates among them, envying's, wraths, strife, backbitings, whispering, swellings, ( swelling words of vanity. 2 Peter 2:18. Jude 1:16.) tumults.

They on the forum are bewailed, that this is told by Gods word to be sin and uncleanness, which is committed.




Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,


Romans 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

1 Corinthians 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

2 Corinthians 12:20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

2 Corinthians 12:21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.





Variance ( divisions) emulation, ( vanity of mind) wrath, strife, sedition, heresies, envying's, mean the daily creator of these, will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

The fruit of the Spirit however, is love, joy, peace, gentleness, goodness, faith.

Some then preach Christ even of envy and strife, and some preach Christ of good will.

But nothing is to be done by strife or vainglory, but in lowliness of mind we are to instead, esteem the others better than ourselves.




Galatians 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,


Philippians 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.




Not only is theology allowed to daily have threads with foolish questioning, it is proven daily, they gender strife. The Mods, admins, wont even be seen to pretend to care, and attempt to clean up what they did themselves, all along.

Is it not ironic, thy have one area only, that has questions and answers, where they limited the amount of difference of opinion ( debate) yet in all other areas of the forum, they allow direct debate then. ( Christianity is not protected in one tiny area, but in all of it, because all has to be the same, either make the tree good and all its fruit good, or the tree evil and its fruit evil. (Matthew 12:33.)

If men do not consent to wholesome words, the word of Jesus Christ, the doctrine of godliness, they are proud, they ask quesitons and strifes of words, they bring envy, strife, railings, evil surmising's, they have perverse disputes of men in corrupt minds.





2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.




Every man is to be swift to hear, not swift to speak, to be slow to wrath, for the wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God.

The tongue is a world of iniquity, which defiles the whole body, set on fire of hell.

The tongue is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

If bitter envying and strife is in the heart, that is earthly, devilish. Where envying and strife is ( the forum should not allow this any longer) there is confusion and every evil work.

The wisdom from above is pure, peaceable, gentle, easily intreated, full of mercy, good fruits.


James 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.


James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.


James 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.




God is not the author of confusion. ( where there is envying and strife.) but of peace. ( no strife, no debate, no contention, consenting to wholesome words of Jesus Christ.)

But fear, that by some means ( deceiving) the serpent is the one beguiling through subtilty, to corrupt minds from the simplicity that is in Christ. ( confusion is from the serpent.)

If they preach another Jesus, ( of envy and strife. Philippians 1:15.) whom the Apostles have not preached debate, and they come with another spirit, ( not of peace) another gospel, we might bear with them.

For such are false apostles, transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ.

We do not marvel at all of this seen on the Christian forum, for satan himself is transformed into an angel of light, therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed, as the ministers of righteousness, but their end is according to their fruit. ( strife, envy, debate, contention, scorn, and not the fruit of peace instead.)




1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
Nobody has any shame yet, to know discussion for 15 years of strife topics, Trinitarian, Jehovah, Baptists, all your divided churches, is the same on your divided forums ?

Nobody want to notice that instead of gladly hearing the words for correction, all ignore completely, and talk n even if they agree in some parts ?

OK but the shame is that if Jesus Christ talked, as the pople on the forums, they would neve have had a chance of life in that way, but He does more than their exampokle, He finished the works of God without talking, but 3was silent before them.




Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

Luke 23:9 Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.


Mark 14:60 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?

Mark 15:4 And Pilate asked him again, saying, Answerest thou nothing? behold how many things they witness against thee.
 
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