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Science says the Bible is the Word of God

Cornelius

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IVAN PANIN

In 1882, a young immigrant from Russia was just graduating from Harvard. He had a wonderful conversion to Christ, after traveling as an agnostic who often lectured on atheism! A brilliant mathematician, multi-lingual scholar and a literary figure, Panin began to study the Scriptures as a Christian. Knowing Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, he began reading them in the original languages. Now both Hebrew and Greek are unique in that they do not have separate characters for numbers. In other words, they do not use special symbols for their numbers (like our Arabic numerals 1,2,3,etc.) but use instead the letters of their alphabets to represent numbers.

Aware of the numerical values of the Greek and Hebrew alphabets, Panin experimented one day by replacing the letters with their corresponding numbers in Scripture. Here is Panin...a mathematical genius, a Hebrew and Greek scholar, and he loves playing with numbers. Suddenly, his trained mind saw a mathematical pattern! As he studied more intensely, his excitement grew. A few short hours of work had him utterly amazed. The verses he had studied bore unmistakable evidence of an elaborate mathematical pattern, far beyond random chance, or human ability to construct. This discovery marked the turning point in his career, and from that time until his death in 1942, he devoted his entire life to the study of Bible numerics.

He showed, first of all, that the Bible, in its original language, is a skillfully designed product of a mathematical mastermind --far beyond any possibility of deliberate structuring. He later supplied a representative of the Nobel Research Foundation with over 43,000 sheets of his studies accompanied by his statement that this was his evidence that the Bible was the Word of God. Their reply was, "As far as our investigation has proceeded...we find the evidence overwhelmingly in favor of such a statement." He then issued a challenge throughout leading newspapers of the world to offer a "natural explanation" or refute the facts; not a single person was able to do so.
 
WHAT HE FOUND

"The words of the Lord are pure words; as silver tried in a furnace of the
earth, refined 7 times." -- Psalm 12:6

Panin found that patterns of prime numbers, such as 11, 13, 17 and 23, but especially 7, were found in great clusters. He would add up the sum of all the numeric values for different words, sentences, paragraphs, passages, and whole books, and he found the same patterns in each of these forms! He found that the number of WORDS in a vocabulary divides by 7. The number of proper names, both male and female, divides by 7. The number of words that begin with a vowel divides by 7, likewise the number of words that begin with a consonant. The number of LETTERS in a vocabulary divides by 7, and those letters, those that are vowels and those that are consonants also divide by 7. Words that occurred more than once divide by 7, and also words that appeared only once! The number of nouns is divisible by 7, also the words that are not. Even the number of words beginning with each letter of the alphabet! And on and on... Panin only stayed on a passage long enough to confirm beyond reasonable doubt the statistical evidence for supernatural design. But he stated that the longer you stayed on one, it would continue to yield further and further evidences of pattern within patterns until the mind reeled!!
 
SOME EXAMPLES

Here is an example from the Old Testament. Just the very first sentence in the Bible. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1). That's the way that it comes out in English. In Hebrew it's exactly 7 words. The seven words have exactly 28 (4x7) letters. There are three nouns (God, heavens and earth). Taking the letters of these, substituting their number equivalents and adding them up, you get a combined total of 777 (111x7)! There is on Hebrew verb -- created. It's total numerical value is 203 (29x7). The first three words contain the subject with exactly 14 (2x7) letters, likewise the other four are the object with exactly 14 letters. The Hebrew words for the two objects (heaven and earth) each have 7 letters. The value for the first, middle, and last letters in the sentence is 133 (19x7). The numeric value of the first and last letters of all the words is 1393 (199x7); the value of the first and last letters of the first and last words of the verse is 497 (71x7). The value of the first and last letters of each of the words between is 896 (128x7). And so on, and so on...in this verse alone there are 30 different features of 7. I have listed only 11 of them!! The chance of this happening accidentally is 1 in 33 trillion.

And now an example from the New Testament: Matthew 1:1-11. The vocabulary has 49 words (7x7). 28 words begin with a vowel (4x7), the remaining 21 with a consonant (3x7). 7 end with a vowel, 42 with a consonant (6x7). The 49 words have 266 letters (38x7). Out of the 266 letters, 140 are vowels (20x7), 126 are consonants (18x7). Also, of these 49 words, 14 occur only once (2x7), 35 occur more than once (5x7), 42 (6x7) are nouns, 7 are not. These remaining common nouns have exactly 49 letters (7x7). Male names occur in all 56 times (8x7). The names of only three women appear in the passage, and the Greek letters of their names add up to 14 exactly!

Panin said that it would have taken Matthew several months, working 8 hours a day to construct the genealogy, even if it were possible. But the names were chosen BEFORE MATTHEW WAS BORN!
 
ONE AUTHOR

The whole Bible is like this. I am just taking one small chunk of it and doing it in detail. Every paragraph, passage and book in the Bible can be shown to be constructed in the same marvelous way. What kind of fantastic collaboration between the disciples could have produced this structure without computers? How could mere fisherman and tax-collectors produce this kind of incredible structuring and design? What is crazy is that Mark is a Roman, Luke a Greek, and Matthew a Jew, but they all wrote with the same pattern. Each one wrote with their own unique flavor. Mark's style is different, but the pattern is the same right through! So who wrote it? One Mind, one Author -- One God -- many different writers, but One Writer. Can you imagine what kind of Mind would do this and not even care if you ever found out?! What I want you to see is how smart God is! These are not just words, it's an incredible mathematical pattern. It dances with its own poetry in mathematics. A computer would go into raptures over this! It's like a building where every piece joins perfectly into each other. And what is wild, is you can't pull even ONE word out, without damaging the whole pattern. So the Bible carries within itself, a self-checking, self-verifying protection factor. If a person comes along and says I don't like this one, the whole pattern falls apart. This cannot be found in any other religious "holy" book in the world.
 
GENESIS CHAPTER ONE, VERSE ONE

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.â€Â

FEATURE ONE

The number of Hebrew words in this verse is exactly seven.

FEATURE TWO

The number of letters in the seven words is exactly twenty-eight, or four sevens.

FEATURE THREE

The first three of these seven Hebrew words contain the subject and predicate of the sentence. These three words are translated–“In the beginning God created.†The number of letters in these first three Hebrew words is exactly fourteen, or two sevens. The last four of these seven words contain the object of the sentence. These four words are translated–“the heavens and the earth.†The number of letters in these last four Hebrew words is fourteen, or two sevens.

FEATURE FOUR

These last four Hebrew words consist of two objects. The first is “the heavens,†and the second is “and the earth.†The number of letters in the first object is exactly seven. The number of letters in the second object is seven.

FEATURE FIVE

The three leading words in this verse of seven words are God–the subject –and heavens and earth–the objects. The number of letters in these three Hebrew words is exactly fourteen, or two sevens. The number of letters in the other four words of the verse is fourteen, or two sevens.

FEATURE SIX

The shortest word is in the middle. The number of letters in this word and the word to its left is exactly seven.

FEATURE SEVEN

The number of letters in the middle word and the word to its right is exactly seven.

These are only a few examples of the many amazing numeric facts, which have been discovered in the structure of this first verse of only seven Hebrew words. Literally dozens of other phenomenal numeric features strangely underlie the structure of this verse.
 
NO OTHER CONCLUSION

You can put any test that you like on this book and nothing is even in the same category, not even in the same class. It is not a book -- it is God who has spoken in history, and that is why He says, "My word is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword!" Only the 66 books of the Scriptures bear this divine seal. No other book of man in ANY language even faintly resembles the intricate structure and design of the Bible. The fact remains -- only an INFINITE mind could have devised this Book of books. Now you must take what it says, as just what it is...THE WORD OF GOD!

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=sg2

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.or ... whollyholy
 
This looks similar to the bible code years ago. If I remember correctly it was demonstrated that one could find the same intriguing results from a Dr. Seuss book.
 
Hugo said:
This looks similar to the bible code years ago. If I remember correctly it was demonstrated that one could find the same intriguing results from a Dr. Seuss book.

Must be an amazing book. You should bring the results for all to see. On a forum merely saying something does not really mean anything.You have to "bring and show" :)

C
 
Sinthesis said:
Which Bible version are we talking about here?
It happens in the "received text" , the original Greek and Hebrew texts . The closest translation we can get is the one that Panin translated himself and that is called the Numeric New Testament. He died before he could finish the old Testament.

If you want to have a look at it, here is a link:

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=nent

You can download it for free. If you want to buy one, I can help too. I think there is only one place on the WWW that you can buy one.

C
 
Your American Standard Version is extremely close to the Numeric New Pattern. When it was translated, the translators got persecuted , because they translated without taking doctrine into account. So many of the church's pet doctrines was not so clear anymore and they hated that.

So their persecution came because they stuck as closely as they could to the received text. If you think about it; Why is it not the most popular version today ? Do you think it might be a little threatening to some? Maybe the same reasons the RCC tried so long to keep the Bible out of the hands of the people.

A friend of mine loves to say: 'Something smells fishy and I want to know !" so me too in this case.:) I am not leaving things to "popular opinion" when it comes to salvation.
 
Eh I wouldn't trust that guy, the other day I loaned Science five bucks and he has yet to return it.
 
Must be an amazing book. You should bring the results for all to see. On a forum merely saying something does not really mean anything.You have to "bring and show" :)

It was a just a comment. No protocol necessary.

I examined the bible code years ago and discovered that it was hokum. It uses a different engine (ELS), but the lubricant is the same: confirmation bias.
 
Hugo said:
Must be an amazing book. You should bring the results for all to see. On a forum merely saying something does not really mean anything.You have to "bring and show" :)

It was a just a comment. No protocol necessary.

I examined the bible code years ago and discovered that it was hokum. It uses a different engine (ELS), but the lubricant is the same: confirmation bias.

This is not talking about the Bible code. The numeric pattern in the Bible is about mathematics.

C
 
Cornelius said:
Hugo said:
Must be an amazing book. You should bring the results for all to see. On a forum merely saying something does not really mean anything.You have to "bring and show" :)

It was a just a comment. No protocol necessary.

I examined the bible code years ago and discovered that it was hokum. It uses a different engine (ELS), but the lubricant is the same: confirmation bias.

This is not talking about the Bible code. The numeric pattern in the Bible is about mathematics.

C
However, if the person confirming the mathematics is also responsible for a translation it smells bad. Bad and biased. Were this good science there would be no need for a Numeric New Testament.

Sorry, but I have no faith in Unleavened Bread Ministries motivations. :shrug
 
Ah yes, the omnipotent intermittent inspirer of books has added to His list of obtuse messages an utterly obscure one that continues to fail to convince His Creation.
 
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