Scorpion Sting

[I's2C]

Revelation 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
Revelation 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Satan coming as spurious messiah is so convincing the time had to be shortened that if it were possible even the Elect would bow; it is not possible for they have shown their stance against him in 1st age. It’s not that he’s so convincing to the Elect, but he will have the whole world behind him believing with his lies, false charges, and the gates (judges) will be in his pockets that they have already convicted the 7k Elect and who stand up against him. CHRIST showed us what would happen in HIS fake trial condemning an innocent man, they will stop at nothing to see that they are persecuted and hated by all. Satan's moves the whole world against them and flesh is like that they are easily moved by anyone who stands up and takes a lead with elegance and great orated skill. Satan doesn’t have to do much but sit back and watch for it is the religious class of the world that come after CHRIST anointed just as the religious class went after CHRIST. The whole lesson of Job of how Satan works; here in person, going after your family, livelihood, and friends to convince you take a knee to him .
Mar 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
They brow beat you for not 1 hair will be harmed, it is written! Trying to convince them he is the true MESSIAH>
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
It is not possible, for the Elect stand waiting and wanting to take on the antichrist for they don’t find him tempting but an abomination.
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
I say it is not possible! for the Elect stood against Satan in 1st age and will stand against him again. They stand willing and waiting for the call to testify before the synagogues of Satan for no longer than 10 days of testimony. The whole world will hear their testimony in the Pentecostal tongue for it is not them that speak but the HOLY SPIRIT through them! They were chosen for a time such as this, a greater destiny have no man than this.
Scorpion sting- When GOD puts forth analogies of nature; HE does so, because it is something we can see on our own how it works and expects us to see and study. A scorpion has no stomach or means to chew their prey; they will catch with their pincher and ingest toxins into it with their tail that stings; turning their back bone to mush then they just drink the juices. The venom contains a complex mix of toxins that affect the nervous system (neurotoxins). Sense they have no digestion system the toxin turns its prey’s back bone to mush where they can absorb the nutrients.
This is the analogy GOD wants us to see- the sting is fiery darts of Satan with his lies and false accusations where they wear a person down, turning his back bone to mush using their family, and friends against elect knowing the Elect will not budge. Antichrist is not coming in killing people or throwing them in prison just the opposite anything CHRIST would not do, Satan is not going to do (at least not publicly) for that would give him away, he is coming instead of CHRIST stealing your soul with deceptions, miracle and lies. He comes in peaceably and prosperously making his appearance known on 6th trump, before true CHRIST on 7th trump.
True Christians best be prepared for this; what will you do when your wife/husband who have fell for the spurious messiah turn you into Satan (death) and they beg him to save you? What will you do when your son/daughter comes seemingly, desperately ill and Satan ask you “do you believe I am able to save your child”? What are you going to do? Do you know scripture well enough to know it is his power to do what he says, but it is only his for 5 months and not a single person dies a flesh death at that time. Heaven is rolled up as a scroll and no one ascends or descends the 5 months-no death.
7th trump People wish to die and cant (all instantly at 2nd coming revert to Ruach), so ashamed wanting mountains to fall on them when they found out they been had, rather than face true MESSIAH. don't be one of those that run to the fake. You salt of the earth Christians that sat in pews your whole life just at the moment it counted the most give up your professed religion (great apostasy). Stay working in the field until True MESSIAH comes; if you are confused when that is, pinch yourself and if still in the flesh true MESSIAH not here yet!

 

[hawkman]

I say it is not possible! for the Elect stood against Satan in 1st age and will stand against him again. They stand willing and waiting for the call to testify before the synagogues of Satan for no longer than 10 days of testimony. The whole world will hear their testimony in the Pentecostal tongue for it is not them that speak but the HOLY SPIRIT through them! They were chosen for a time such as this, a greater destiny have no man than this.

Do you have any verses in Revelation speaking of the Elect standing against Satan ?

I have an idea why we do not hear the word Elect in Revelation .

The 10 days and speaking in tongues , where is that in the Book of Revelation ?

 

[for_his_glory]

Rev 9:1-12

The star John saw that fell from heaven was an angel as angels are sometimes called stars in scripture. This angel having the key to open the bottomless pit could be the same angel we read about in Revelation 20:1-3 that God gives the key to that opens the bottomless pit where Satan is bound. When the bottomless pit was opened locust came up out of it. In reference to a smoke these locust would be to numerous to number, Judges 7:12, and look like dark smoke as they rise and swarm if you saw them from a distance. Once they became closer to your vision you would see that it wasn’t smoke, but a hoard of locust. Their attributes of what God is purposing them for is what gives them their power to sting as in tormenting those who have not the seal of God on them. They are compared as scorpions that literally sting using the power of their tails as they raise them above their head.

God gives specific instructions to keep their focus on what they are being released to accomplish for Gods purpose over the next five months. There is a reason why they are not allowed to hurt the grass or any green thing including trees as we will see in the next few verses. They are only allowed to torment, but not kill those people who do not have Gods seal on them. The torment will be so tremendous that those without Gods seal will want to kill themselves, but God holds His hand against it.

The locusts are actually the fallen angels from heaven that refused to stay in the limits of Gods authority before the flood in Noah’s day, Genesis 6:1, 2; Job 2:1; 1 Peter 3:18-20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6. These disobedient angels are different then the ones that Satan draws a third of to himself. God has reserved them and set them bound in outer darkness far from the brightness of His glorious realm, or as scripture says chained and bound them into a bottomless pit.

This pit could not be a part of the actual earth as the pits of earth have bottoms so this would be in the spiritual sense of the area of darkness that has no physical location in the Universe. These angels have been spared for the particular purpose that God has for them as they are released by God to torment man for five months then their final judgment comes at the end when they are cast into the lake of fire. These could be the very same angels Jesus went down to preach to before He ascended up to heaven, 1 Peter 3:19, 20.

Angels can do miraculous supernatural things and unfortunately fallen angels can still do many of these same things, as they were created with these abilities. A fallen angel can only attack someone if they have spiritual authority, grounds and rights to do so like that of Satan tormenting Job as it’s Gods authority that uses them to inflict torment on those during His wrath.

They have interaction with humans spiritually as in dreams and visions and also can take on physical appearances before men like that of Lot who saw two men stand before him, Genesis 19:1. These angels will take on the form of locust, but given instruction by God not to hurt the green grass or the trees.

The demonic angels that appear to look like a swarm of locust coming up out of the ground in the numerous numbering of them is likened unto horses prepared for battle, Judges 7:12. The description given in vs. 7-10 is also likened unto ancient battle horses that were decked out with a full plate of armor that helped protect them like their riders from swords, axes, maces, and lances during battle.

The armor, similar to their rider, had a full head piece including a plume of horse hair coming out of the crown of the helmet. The horses face pieces would also be fashioned like that of a man’s except it would be extended to cover their mouth giving them an appearance as having sharp teeth in the design.

The coming approach of these angels would sound like that of chariots and horses running into battle. It’s like when a storm develops you hear the thunder in the distant and when the storm gets closer the louder the thunder becomes. Being they are transformed into locust the sounds of their wings will be similar as a thundering noise.

The tails and the sting of their tail are compared to a scorpion as the torment they will inflict on men will feel like that of a scorpion’s sting. A regular locust has no stingers in its tail nor can they bite or break the skin of a person, but a locust on a larger scale can bite, but not able to penetrate the skin deep enough to draw blood. Scripture says they have stings in their tail so it would be apparent that these are not normal locust. There would be much torment on a person by the number of locust that land on them.

Apollyon is king over the bottomless pit that was given the key meaning Gods authority and power was given him to open the pit and gives these angels that are transformed into locust their authority to go forth and torment men for five months. Apollyon means destroyer in Greek and destruction in Hebrew as he is known as Abaddon in Hebrew. He is an angel of God that He uses throughout the OT and here in vs. 1, 11 to bring about Gods commands when it comes to the destruction of people of disobedience, Exodus 12:23; 2Kings 6:14-18; Proverbs 15:11, 12; Jeremiah 4:7; Daniel 10:13; 1 Corinthians 10:10.

The torment of this chastisement was so great that men would seek death, but not find it and desire to die and death will flee from them as God holds His hands against it.

One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. Another warning to repent has been announced.

 

[hawkman]

The locusts are actually the fallen angels from heaven that refused to stay in the limits of Gods authority before the flood in Noah’s day, Genesis 6:1, 2; Job 2:1; 1 Peter 3:18-20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6. These disobedient angels are different then the ones that Satan draws a third of to himself. God has reserved them and set them bound in outer darkness far from the brightness of His glorious realm, or as scripture says chained and bound them into a bottomless pit.

I see no reason to say the locusts are fallen angels , in fact we are given a detailed description of the locusts .

7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

And one more problem , the angels in chains are there till "the judgement of the great day " , so those angels are not showing up till then . We see this in Jude 1:6 and 2Peter 2:4 .

6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

 

[I's2C]

The 7k Satan releases from the pit (locust army) by Satan for 5 months-the desolater, sentence has already been passed on them, exactly 3 1/2 days after they kill the 2 witness they die a consuming fire and will never be thought of or heard of again, that will be their great day of judgement!. They don't even make it to the Great WT judgement for they refused to be born of woman from above and was warned not to touch GODS anointed, their great day is that day –end of the Hour of temptation; then 7th trump the day of CHRIST return for 1k years, at the very time the 7k fallen angels die, CHRIST coming here not flying away! at the very instant the 2 witness resurrect CHRIST descends and all revert to (Ruach breath of life bodies)-spiritual bodies and here for 1k years of righteous rule without the influence of Satan or flesh hang-ups or anything negative, Satan in the pit for 1k years then we all get to see his final judgement a consuming fire from within at the end of "the day of the LORD" of lords, KING of kings. Then the Great White Throne judgment.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[for_his_glory]

I see no reason to say the locusts are fallen angels , in fact we are given a detailed description of the locusts .

7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

And one more problem , the angels in chains are there till "the judgement of the great day " , so those angels are not showing up till then . We see this in Jude 1:6 and 2Peter 2:4 .

6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Sorry, I should have made it clear that these fallen angels are not a part of those angels we read about in Jude 1:6.

They are called locust, but their description in Rev 9:7-10 leads me to believe these are fallen angels chained and bound, but not the same ones we read about in Jude 1:6.

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

The name Apollyon is only found once by name in Rev 9:11. If you notice in Rev 9:1 John is given the vision of a star that has fallen from heaven unto the earth and was given the key to the bottomless pit. Angels in scripture are often called stars in heaven, Job 38:7; Rev 1:16, 20; 2:1; 3:1; 12:1.

Apollyon/Abaddon is a Hebrew and Greek word which means destruction/destroyer as we see God used this angel in Exodus 12:23; 1 Chronicles 21:15-18; 1 Corinthians 10:10; Hebrews 11:28; Rev 9:11.

The angel who is called Apollyon/Abaddon in Rev 9:11 was sent by God for His purpose to have this angel open the pit and rule over these locust as they were commanded not to kill any man, but to only torment them to where they would want to die, but could not. This angel according to Rev 9:11 was never previously bound/imprisoned in the pit, but was the angel of the bottomless pit. Many think that since the name means destroyer in the Hebrew that this is an evil angel that Satan uses in Rev 9 at the 5th trumpet. If this was an evil angel why would Satan use him to torment those who are already his own who refuse to repent and turn back to God?

 

[for_his_glory]

The 7k Satan releases from the pit (locust army) by Satan for 5 months-the desolater, sentence has already been passed on them, exactly 3 1/2 days after they kill the 2 witness they die a consuming fire and will never be thought of or heard of again, that will be their great day of judgement!. They don't even make it to the Great WT judgement for they refused to be born of woman from above and was warned not to touch GODS anointed, their great day is that day –end of the Hour of temptation; then 7th trump the day of CHRIST return for 1k years, at the very time the 7k fallen angels die, CHRIST coming here not flying away! at the very instant the 2 witness resurrect CHRIST descends and all revert to (Ruach breath of life bodies)-spiritual bodies and here for 1k years of righteous rule without the influence of Satan or flesh hang-ups or anything negative, Satan in the pit for 1k years then we all get to see his final judgement a consuming fire from within at the end of "the day of the LORD" of lords, KING of kings. Then the Great White Throne judgment.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Where are the scriptures you use for all this of your explanation and where does it say 7K locust were released as I see no numbering of how many were released.

 

[hawkman]

Sorry, I should have made it clear that these fallen angels are not a part of those angels we read about in Jude 1:6.

They are called locust, but their description in Rev 9:7-10 leads me to believe these are fallen angels chained and bound, but not the same ones we read about in Jude 1:6.

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

The name Apollyon is only found once by name in Rev 9:11. If you notice in Rev 9:1 John is given the vision of a star that has fallen from heaven unto the earth and was given the key to the bottomless pit. Angels in scripture are often called stars in heaven, Job 38:7; Rev 1:16, 20; 2:1; 3:1; 12:1.

Apollyon/Abaddon is a Hebrew and Greek word which means destruction/destroyer as we see God used this angel in Exodus 12:23; 1 Chronicles 21:15-18; 1 Corinthians 10:10; Hebrews 11:28; Rev 9:11.

The angel who is called Apollyon/Abaddon in Rev 9:11 was sent by God for His purpose to have this angel open the pit and rule over these locust as they were commanded not to kill any man, but to only torment them to where they would want to die, but could not. This angel according to Rev 9:11 was never previously bound/imprisoned in the pit, but was the angel of the bottomless pit. Many think that since the name means destroyer in the Hebrew that this is an evil angel that Satan uses in Rev 9 at the 5th trumpet. If this was an evil angel why would Satan use him to torment those who are already his own who refuse to repent and turn back to God?

We are having almost the same talk in a thread not in the Unothodox forum , why don't we go there with our talk ?

Apollyon/Abaddon

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened...

christianforums.net

 

[for_his_glory]

We are having almost the same talk in a thread not in the Unothodox forum , why don't we go there with our talk ?

Apollyon/Abaddon

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened...

christianforums.net

sounds good.