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Bible Study Scriptural Balance

netchaplain

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The believer’s standing (position) is the way the Father sees him in His Son, as perfect in Him. But his state (condition) is the way the Father sees him in his daily walk, which is sinful and erring and needs to be developed and improved.

“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand†(Rom 5:1, 2). “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand†(1 Cor 15:1). “That I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state. For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state†(Phil 2:19, 20).

Nearly all the false doctrines that teach some form of human works or merit for salvation are based upon Scriptures that deal with the believer’s state and have nothing to do with salvation at all. God’s Word would not be complete if it did not teach both the sinner how to be saved and the believer how to conduct himself after he is saved. Many of the difficulties in understanding the Scriptures would disappear if we would always ask: is this verse about our standing or our state?

One notable instance of this principle of Bible understanding is found in the first epistle to the Corinthians. In the first chapter, Paul refers to them as saints who “are sanctified.†But in the third chapter he says they are “carnalâ€, or fleshly. As to their standing, they are sanctified in Christ Jesus—perfect in Him. But in their actual earthly walk, or state, they were carnal. In their standing they are safe, as secure and perfect as the work of the Cross can make them. But in their state they need exhortation and growth.

Again, in Colossians 2:10, “And ye are complete in Him.†This refers to the perfect standing which the believer has in Christ. It cannot be improved upon; it is already “complete†in Christ. Yet in our walk we cannot say that we are sinless, for “if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves†(1 John 1:8).

The Father looks upon every believer as if he were already in heaven, as far as his standing in concerned. This blessed truth is brought out in Ephesians 2:6, “And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.†But as far as his earthly state is concerned while he is waiting the home-call, the believer is admonished thus: “Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth†(Col 3:5). So we see that the believer is said to be both in heaven and on earth. “Standing and State†is the only explanation of this. Much more of the Word is given to instructions for the believer’s state than to his standing. His standing is heavenly, eternal and perfect. His state is earthly, temporary and imperfect. - Unknown
 
The believer’s standing (position) is the way the Father sees him in His Son, as perfect in Him. But his state (condition) is the way the Father sees him in his daily walk, which is sinful and erring and needs to be developed and improved.

“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand†(Rom 5:1, 2). “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand†(1 Cor 15:1). “That I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state. For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state†(Phil 2:19, 20).

Nearly all the false doctrines that teach some form of human works or merit for salvation are based upon Scriptures that deal with the believer’s state and have nothing to do with salvation at all. God’s Word would not be complete if it did not teach both the sinner how to be saved and the believer how to conduct himself after he is saved. Many of the difficulties in understanding the Scriptures would disappear if we would always ask: is this verse about our standing or our state?

One notable instance of this principle of Bible understanding is found in the first epistle to the Corinthians. In the first chapter, Paul refers to them as saints who “are sanctified.†But in the third chapter he says they are “carnalâ€, or fleshly. As to their standing, they are sanctified in Christ Jesus—perfect in Him. But in their actual earthly walk, or state, they were carnal. In their standing they are safe, as secure and perfect as the work of the Cross can make them. But in their state they need exhortation and growth.

Again, in Colossians 2:10, “And ye are complete in Him.†This refers to the perfect standing which the believer has in Christ. It cannot be improved upon; it is already “complete†in Christ. Yet in our walk we cannot say that we are sinless, for “if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves†(1 John 1:8).

The Father looks upon every believer as if he were already in heaven, as far as his standing in concerned. This blessed truth is brought out in Ephesians 2:6, “And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.†But as far as his earthly state is concerned while he is waiting the home-call, the believer is admonished thus: “Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth†(Col 3:5). So we see that the believer is said to be both in heaven and on earth. “Standing and State†is the only explanation of this. Much more of the Word is given to instructions for the believer’s state than to his standing. His standing is heavenly, eternal and perfect. His state is earthly, temporary and imperfect. - Unknown

That is some of the clearest and Biblical doctrine I have Seen on this Site.

God Bless you in your teachings Sir.
 
The believer’s standing (position) is the way the Father sees him in His Son, as perfect in Him. But his state (condition) is the way the Father sees him in his daily walk, which is sinful and erring and needs to be developed and improved.

“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand” (Rom 5:1, 2). “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand” (1 Cor 15:1). “That I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state. For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state” (Phil 2:19, 20).

Nearly all the false doctrines that teach some form of human works or merit for salvation are based upon Scriptures that deal with the believer’s state and have nothing to do with salvation at all. God’s Word would not be complete if it did not teach both the sinner how to be saved and the believer how to conduct himself after he is saved. Many of the difficulties in understanding the Scriptures would disappear if we would always ask: is this verse about our standing or our state?

One notable instance of this principle of Bible understanding is found in the first epistle to the Corinthians. In the first chapter, Paul refers to them as saints who “are sanctified.” But in the third chapter he says they are “carnal”, or fleshly. As to their standing, they are sanctified in Christ Jesus—perfect in Him. But in their actual earthly walk, or state, they were carnal. In their standing they are safe, as secure and perfect as the work of the Cross can make them. But in their state they need exhortation and growth.

Again, in Colossians 2:10, “And ye are complete in Him.” This refers to the perfect standing which the believer has in Christ. It cannot be improved upon; it is already “complete” in Christ. Yet in our walk we cannot say that we are sinless, for “if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves” (1 John 1:8).

The Father looks upon every believer as if he were already in heaven, as far as his standing in concerned. This blessed truth is brought out in Ephesians 2:6, “And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.” But as far as his earthly state is concerned while he is waiting the home-call, the believer is admonished thus: “Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth” (Col 3:5). So we see that the believer is said to be both in heaven and on earth. “Standing and State” is the only explanation of this. Much more of the Word is given to instructions for the believer’s state than to his standing. His standing is heavenly, eternal and perfect. His state is earthly, temporary and imperfect. - Unknown

That is some of the clearest and Biblical doctrine I have Seen on this Site.

God Bless you in your teachings Sir.

Thanks GG for your comment and I agree, I also find what the author shared to be very instructional.
 
Kind of like we are justified, but not yet fully sanctified. Great stuff. :)

Wholly justified, wholly sanctified in our position. Experiential sanctification, is the function of the spiritual life after salvation.(our state,Following His plan or not) But still wholly sanctified in our position.

Ultimate sanctification is the final phase, when we receive our resurrection body.
 
Kind of like we are justified, but not yet fully sanctified. Great stuff. :)

Wholly justified, wholly sanctified in our position. Experiential sanctification, is the function of the spiritual life after salvation.(our state,Following His plan or not) But still wholly sanctified in our position.

Ultimate sanctification is the final phase, when we receive our resurrection body.

Completely or as you've indicated, "wholly sanctified," because we're wholly justified after receiving Christ. The working of it out comes through growth in Christ's life by the Spirit through increasingly learning more about the vicariousness of our position in Scripture; we do not produce righteousness but work from it being in us from Christ. Righteousness has has been imputed (not produced); "Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us . . . righteousness and sanctification" (1 Cor 1:30).
 
Kind of like we are justified, but not yet fully sanctified. Great stuff. :)

Wholly justified, wholly sanctified in our position. Experiential sanctification, is the function of the spiritual life after salvation.(our state,Following His plan or not) But still wholly sanctified in our position.

Ultimate sanctification is the final phase, when we receive our resurrection body.

Completely or as you've indicated, "wholly sanctified," because we're wholly justified after receiving Christ. The working of it out comes through growth in Christ's life by the Spirit through increasingly learning more about the vicariousness of our position in Scripture; we do not produce righteousness but work from it being in us from Christ. Righteousness has has been imputed (not produced); "Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us . . . righteousness and sanctification" (1 Cor 1:30).

Netchaplin, what a pleasure to read your words. I hope and pray more people are led by the Lord to read the Doctrinal principles that I have heard you say. The truths presented here are the truths that I have learned and studied. We learn the Grace , We learn the knowledge and the truth of our position in Christ, which is the motivation in the Christian life.
 
The believer’s standing (position) is the way the Father sees him in His Son, as perfect in Him. But his state (condition) is the way the Father sees him in his daily walk, which is sinful and erring and needs to be developed and improved.

“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand†(Rom 5:1, 2). “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand†(1 Cor 15:1). “That I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state. For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state†(Phil 2:19, 20).

Nearly all the false doctrines that teach some form of human works or merit for salvation are based upon Scriptures that deal with the believer’s state and have nothing to do with salvation at all. God’s Word would not be complete if it did not teach both the sinner how to be saved and the believer how to conduct himself after he is saved. Many of the difficulties in understanding the Scriptures would disappear if we would always ask: is this verse about our standing or our state?

One notable instance of this principle of Bible understanding is found in the first epistle to the Corinthians. In the first chapter, Paul refers to them as saints who “are sanctified.†But in the third chapter he says they are “carnalâ€, or fleshly. As to their standing, they are sanctified in Christ Jesus—perfect in Him. But in their actual earthly walk, or state, they were carnal. In their standing they are safe, as secure and perfect as the work of the Cross can make them. But in their state they need exhortation and growth.

Again, in Colossians 2:10, “And ye are complete in Him.†This refers to the perfect standing which the believer has in Christ. It cannot be improved upon; it is already “complete†in Christ. Yet in our walk we cannot say that we are sinless, for “if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves†(1 John 1:8).

The Father looks upon every believer as if he were already in heaven, as far as his standing in concerned. This blessed truth is brought out in Ephesians 2:6, “And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.†But as far as his earthly state is concerned while he is waiting the home-call, the believer is admonished thus: “Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth†(Col 3:5). So we see that the believer is said to be both in heaven and on earth. “Standing and State†is the only explanation of this. Much more of the Word is given to instructions for the believer’s state than to his standing. His standing is heavenly, eternal and perfect. His state is earthly, temporary and imperfect. - Unknown


Here is the scripture I use for Balance. I like the way the NAS translates it.

It is good that you grasp one thing and also not let go of the other ; for the one who fears God comes forth with both of them. Ecclesiastes 7:18

I share from a perspective about scripture balancing itself rather than "contradicting" itself.

I use these two scriptures to illustrate.

Proverbs 26:4-5

4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes.

These two scriptures say exactly the opposite.

Which one is truth?

There are many situations to consider, for example -

Who is the fool? A parent? A employer? or a friend or a child...

There are many variables to consider.

The balance is - As many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God.

We must allow Wisdom to lead us.

Knowledge is knowing WHAT!

Wisdom is knowing HOW, WHEN, WHERE AND WHO to do WHAT you know.

Understanding is WHY.


Your teaching is a good Balance between legalism and lawlessness.

We are called to walk down the middle of the Path of life, not looking to the right hand [legalism] nor to the left hand [lawlessness], this takes being led by The Spirit.

Thats why the Psalmist says -He leads me in the paths of righteousness...


JLB
 
Thanks JLB for your replies and God's blessings to your Family.

I like John Gill's comment on verse 5: "must be the sense, that when a fool is answered, as it is sometimes necessary he should, that it be done in wisdom, and so as to expose his folly; he is to be answered and not answered according to different times, places, and circumstances, and manner of answering; he is to be answered when there is any hope of doing him good, or of doing good to others; or of preventing ill impressions being made upon others by what he has said; when the glory of God, the good of the church, and the cause of truth, require it; and when he would otherwise glory and triumph, as if his words or works were unanswerable, as follow;

lest he be wise in his own conceit; which fools are apt to be, and the rather when no answer is given them; imagining it arises from the strength of their arguments, and their nervous way of reasoning, when it is rather from a neglect and contempt of them.
 
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