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Self respect

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How much of self love is self respect?
How important is self respect? Can we have too much? Expect others to treat us like VIPs?
Those who quit alcohol learn to respect themselves again, don't they.
 
Self respect is something we have to earned within our own self when we learn to love our self as we love others. It took me many years to learn what love was and to gain back my self esteem in order to be confident in myself, especially to know who I am in Christ who sees me better than the world ever could. Many years of being dragged through the dirt takes just about everything out of a person until they have nothing left in them self.
 
I think it's important to note that "self love" and "self care" includes loving yourself enough to be responsible, too. It's not just treating yourself now and then or resting when you need it, it's eating right, exercising, and doing the right things to take care of your health.
 
Both today and in the Roman world self promotion and the degrading of others was normal.
Humility was reserved for slaves and the like.
So the biblical command to treat others as being of greater worth than one's self was radicle.
R12:3. & Phil 2:3+4 are the two I know.

Self respect is best built on the real knowledge of who and what we are and on the knowledge of what we have achieved.

It helps to know that no matter how we may see our selves or what mess we've made of life, that Jesus's love for us is realistic, that it is total and unending.
 
I'm scratching my head about this one. Would not self respect have it's foundation in pride? For us pride is a big no no. We are told to be humble and lowly. Having self love and self confidence is a mistake I think. I have trust and confidence in God, but not so much for myself.

Especially on what I know and have learned. I used to think I was smart, skilled and so forth but the older I get the less I feel I know.
 
I'm scratching my head about this one. Would not self respect have it's foundation in pride? For us pride is a big no no. We are told to be humble and lowly. Having self love and self confidence is a mistake I think. I have trust and confidence in God, but not so much for myself.

Especially on what I know and have learned. I used to think I was smart, skilled and so forth but the older I get the less I feel I know.
I'm going to wager you've never dealt with cripplingly low self esteem or legitimate self hatred. There is such a thing as too much self confidence, but too little is also unhealthy.

I don't hate myself, but lately I'm dealing with a lot of feelings of worthlessness and feelings that no one really wants me around. One way I'm combatting this, as of last night, is by taking compliments people have given me and putting them in a jar, to pull out and read next time I feel depressed or down on myself.
 
I'm going to wager you've never dealt with cripplingly low self esteem or legitimate self hatred. There is such a thing as too much self confidence, but too little is also unhealthy.

I don't hate myself, but lately I'm dealing with a lot of feelings of worthlessness and feelings that no one really wants me around. One way I'm combatting this, as of last night, is by taking compliments people have given me and putting them in a jar, to pull out and read next time I feel depressed or down on myself.

What you say does make sense to me. But remember that in our weakness is His strength and even though you feel totally shattered, try to thank the Lord for this because I think He has to shatter many of us so He can pick up all of the little colored pieces of glass...and make a beautiful Tiffany Lamp from the pieces. So it's highly likely that you have a most beautiful future to look forward too.

And of course I have had my ups and downs like most others and get my fair share of Storms and tribulations to weather out, and I was feeling pretty down about it and cried out to the Lord about it. Why me? Why this? And the Lord showed me that some suffering is necessary because there are some things that people are unable to learn without some suffering involved.

I can't pretend to fully understand that but if He said so, then it must be. So if you have had more suffering than I have (IDK?) then it could be that you will have a more important job in heaven than I? Remember the story of the rich man and Lazarus? The Lord said the rich man had no suffering on earth, so now He will. And Lazarus was suffering a whole lot on earth so He was then in a place of no suffering any more. So that is the sort of story that got me to be able to understand just how Paul and those disciples could be singing praises to God after being beaten up or could sing hymns to God while in jail! I didn't get that at first but now I understand it. So whenever something bad happens I just say, Lord I don't know what you are doing but I trust you anyway. I stand on faith, and put the worry out of my mind, and watch along the ride to see what He does. Then somehow weird always, everything kind of clicks into place and the problem is fixed. So I also think that many (most??) trials and storms in our lives are in fact maybe a test of our faith and trust in Him. Then a blessing always comes (if I pass the test!). Always. If I don't pass the test then the storm gets worse! So, I praise the Lord for all of my pain and suffering in my back and I only hope that it helps Him and pleases Him. Yet though he slay me I will trust Him!!

Make sense?
 
I don't hate myself, but lately I'm dealing with a lot of feelings of worthlessness and feelings that no one really wants me around.

I had to work through the same thing. I had a wonderful Wife and two beautiful boys, and we all got along fine. I was married to her for 26 years, and was a successful Mechanical Contractor making more money than I knew how to manage, lol. I had it all and was on top of the world and very proud of myself. I had a business, a great family, I never did cheat on her, I wasn't a drunk or a druggie, I didn't slap her around or the kids...I had it all! I did these things myself! I'm the man! Who needs to walk with God when you're doing so good by yourself?

Except I wasn't. It was not me. It was the Lord blessing me and trying to get my attention. I ignored Him. So there was nothing else He could do I think, so He had to chop me down to the ground to get my attention. Life can change so fast, Sister. SO FAST. Business gone, Wife divorced me, kids had a real bad attitude towards me all of a sudden. ( I dunno if she turned the kids against me, maybe they just blamed me for the family breakup?)

So yeah, I lost a lot. And while I didn't do everything right, I was a pretty good dad and husband I think. I was innocent for the most part. And it all crumbled down all of a sudden...And (stupid, I know), I still didn't listen. starting chasing women after the divorce. So the Lord allowed for me to have an epileptic seizure on the highway at 70 miles per hour. I rolled my brand new work truck and broke my back in 2 places. First time that I ever felt a seizure coming on. (after 18 years of seizure free!) out of the blue. I cried out to Him, Lord be with me, as I lost consciousness. Well He saved me. And now I'm not even in a wheel chair. I walk on my own. Slower than I used to but that sure got my attention that time. And here I am, 11 yrs later, still waking with the Lord. I embraced the Lord after the accident. I know He saved my life that day. I owe Him for that. And I started obeying, and listening and praying.

So the Lord started blessing me. I'm cool with my kids again and He gave me a house. And I realize that...I am actually doing better now than I was before. (It is the Lord, It is THE LORD!!) So I try to praise Him in all circumstances now, good or bad...and getting better at it, wow!

We all drift at times. Everyone does. But I am paying attention now and when I drift, He allows something to happen to me. A storm. Gets my attention again. So I'm pert certain that when people seem to be having continual trials and bad things happen in their life, that there's prolly something that we have not given up yet for Him. Some type of sin that we keep going back to, and God is trying to get our attention back on Him fully so that's when I need to go introspective and examine my life and it's not hard to figure out what sin He is trying to get me to give up for Him. And if we don't, then He allows the storm to continue to shake me up and get me focused again.

Or so it seems to me while noticing patterns over the last 11 years of service to Him. When the Lord decides to teach us something, you can't stop it!

He will thoroughly bless you when you're doing good, and cut you down to the ground so fast when you are not doing good. It is our decision to make, but He is always in control so we all better listen sooner rather than later!

The biggest thing (to me) that He has taught me over the last 11 years since I became serious about giving all of my life to Him, Is that, He is not an angry God. He is the most loving caring being towards me that I have ever known before.

And you. I guarantee you that you can not comprehend how much He really does Love You. I am only starting to get a clue about this and I can't fully comprehend it either. Yet. Do you realize that you were created by Him as a totally unique individual and are the only one who will be able to fill a spot in His heart that can only be filled by you and who you are and were created to be for Him? No one else could ever fill your spot in His heart except you alone. Because of your particular mindset and who your good & bad experiences have taught you to be and what the hard times created your personality to be.

Perhaps you do not realize just how valuable that you are as a person, to the Lord? Souls are the absolute most valuable item on earth bar none. And especially YOU. So put that one in your jar. Because it's true. The Lord is that big. He loves you that much, and more.
 
Cannot do anything unless it starts with oneself first. Cannot respect others if you do not respect yourself first, cannot love others if you do not love yourself first, cannot forgive others if you do not forgive yourself first. You have to help yourself first before you can help others otherwise it's just all talk and no walk. Thats why Jesus said the Kingdom is within you. It starts with you.

People who love, respect, and forgive themselves show there light by doing the same towards others because that's the person they are.
 
I'm scratching my head about this one. Would not self respect have it's foundation in pride?
My answer would be , we need some pride to survive. It's when it gets too high that we start thinking we don't need anyone including God.
But if we don't have some pride and self respect, we allow others to mistreat us too.
So for me, I don't buy the "total humility" that some Christians plead us to achieve.
Be humble before God but treat others equally.
 
I'm scratching my head about this one. Would not self respect have it's foundation in pride? For us pride is a big no no. We are told to be humble and lowly. Having self love and self confidence is a mistake I think. I have trust and confidence in God, but not so much for myself.

Especially on what I know and have learned. I used to think I was smart, skilled and so forth but the older I get the less I feel I know.
Respecting ourselves, especially when we have very low self-esteem from circumstances that have beaten us down, just means we take stock in who we are in learning our own worth and value as a human being. If you can not respect your self than how can you respect others. It's has nothing to do with pride, but knowing who we are as self respect starts with us. It took me many years of being beaten down physically and mentally to find my self respect as in my own worth and value within me.
 
I don't think many people realise how much Jesus respected and loved himself. He claimed to be equal with God right?. Jesus was an example, he said the Kingdom of God is within yourself.
 
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Find the kingdom of God within yourself and raise yourself.
 
Some Christians don't like the idea of a God within. Or His Kingdom either.

Well if they don't like Jesus who is the example explaininng the Kingdom of God is within you then so be it.

Jesus never claimed to be greater than anyone else he was just truth and a guide to the world.
 
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Some Christians don't like the idea of a God within. Or His Kingdom either.

There are? That seems weird to me. What could be better?! With God with us, who can stand against us. They can not take God's Holy Spirit from us unless we allow them to. Oh they can put you in jail...But God is there with you! If you pray hard enough and sing enough praises to Him, He might just send one of His Angels to unlock the door for you, or He might decide to send an earthquake and the prison walls fall down. Or they could even kill your flesh body. But as I understand it...as they were stoning Stephen to death, he was covered by the Spirit and felt nothing. He was in bliss. So those Christians who do not like the thought of God within them...they're being short sighted dummies.

To other earlier posts:
I agree with what was said. We do need a bit of self pride. Self respect. Because, no self respecting man would do (XXXX) whatever. That would not be extraneous pride, I just...don't want to be that guy...So you were correct and after I chewed on it for a bit, I got it.

But we do have to be careful about letting our somewhat miniscule self pride & respect develop into a superfluous pride. Pride always cometh before a fall.
 
My answer would be , we need some pride to survive. It's when it gets too high that we start thinking we don't need anyone including God.
But if we don't have some pride and self respect, we allow others to mistreat us too.
So for me, I don't buy the "total humility" that some Christians plead us to achieve.
Be humble before God but treat others equally.
I think there is a difference between loving ourselves as we are to do and being puffed up with pride. When we love ourselves we care what happens to us, we take care to treat ourselves with respect and honor. When we are puffed up with pride we are full of ourselves and we place ourselves above everyone else instead of being ready to die for those we love. And who are those we love? Jesus says to love others as ourselves. Think about that.
 
I'm going to wager you've never dealt with cripplingly low self esteem or legitimate self hatred. There is such a thing as too much self confidence, but too little is also unhealthy.

I don't hate myself, but lately I'm dealing with a lot of feelings of worthlessness and feelings that no one really wants me around. One way I'm combatting this, as of last night, is by taking compliments people have given me and putting them in a jar, to pull out and read next time I feel depressed or down on myself.

You know what I do when I'm feeling down or feel depression creeping in? I read the book of Promises (Psalms) and it always makes me feel better. You see, I realized that it is not, relationship Plus, but rather relationship Period. And I found that when I give these troubles to the Lord, that I become filled with an inner peace that is indescribable.

This is God's barbeque here and it doesn't always taste good. But take heart, Sister. He is saving the best wine for last. And the greater your sufferings and troubles that you endure here, will make that wine taste even better then when it comes out. So I have learned that I can not control circumstances and that life here is 10% what life deals you in the cards, and 90% how you react to it.
Example:
When the first stimulus check hit my bank, I spent that money so fast it wasn't funny. Caught up all the bills, bought a toy and the money was gone. And the next morning I walk downstairs into the basement, and the floor is all wet. My water heater was leaking from the tank and needed replaced. I glanced at the serial number (I know how to read the date codes because that's what I do, plumb). And it was 5 1/2 yrs old. Wonderful, 6 months out of warranty, I have to pay for a new one! I can install it, but I still have to buy it...and I just spent all the money! I had more than enough to buy one. Yesterday. :(

As I shut off the water to it, I felt the frustration creeping in. I will now have to wait for a month to be able to buy one. Luckily, I had showered and did all of the dishes the day before it went out. (Felt that was prolly a blessing that the Lord urged me to do necessary hot water chores before it konked out!)
And I caught myself and stopped. I laughed and said out loud, Lord, I don't know what you're doing here with all of this, but I trust you and praise you anyway because I know that all things work together for good for those who love God and I love you so, do what you will. Then I just went about my day and didn't worry about it one bit. I cleaned up the water, and so if I had to wait a month, so what. I'll live through it.

The next morning, I resolved myself to waiting this month but hey, I might as well call a supply house and price the new one so I knew what I'd be looking at having to spend. I wanted to get the same exact model, for two reasons, Rheem makes good water heaters, and with the exact unit it would be a slip fit change out and there would be minimal extras to buy for the installation. So I give the guy the model and serial number so he can match it up for me...and he reminds me that Rheem carries a SIX year warranty on their water heaters! I didn't have to pay, or wait. So I went and picked it up. I had it installed by the end of the day. I only had to use one 1/2' coupling and I had that. So I didn't even miss one shower. The Lord is good. What happened was that I did not complain to the Lord or demonstrate a bad reaction to the situation, and I didn't even pray for another water heater or more money. I was just blessed once with the stimulus check, how could I? I essentially, just backed off and gave it to the Lord with praises. And so the Lord made it all turn out for good for me.

Now you might think, well if it was under warranty I wouldn't have had to pay anyway and so what happened was not necessarily from the Lord. But I would still disagree because, I know that if I had reacted differently it just might have had a different outcome. There are no coincidences on this earth, none, ever. This is the Lord's bbq and earth and He IS in control. This was Him. So I managed to pass this test and was immediately blessed for it. Besides, after I was done installing it, I had such an inner peace and joy come over me that, it was obvious to me that the Lord was confirming for me that, He was pleased with how I handled the situation and He blessed me. He always confirms it when He blesses you. This is not the only time that He has blessed me or bailed me out, lol! Just one of the most recent. I could give you quite a few testimonies of other ways the Lord has supernaturally helped me and blessed me. How many would you like to hear?

So if you do not have inner peace and continue to have feelings of worthlessness and such, your answer and solution is within your relationship with Christ. If you draw closer to God, He will draw closer to you. So you would do well to turn these feelings over to the Lord in praises and thanksgiving. Reject those feelings! Give them away. And try not to complain. The OT shows us many examples of the Lord does not like murmuring and complaining, He likes praise, gratitude and thanksgiving. You can not control your circumstances, only how you react to them and allow them to affect you!

After I had began learning these things, I quit worrying about money. I got accused of not giving a crap anymore, of not being ambitious enough...so what? Money is not really needed to live upon the earth. And the respect (or lack thereof) from family and friends, who needs it?! There is a friend which sticketh closer than a brother. And His Name, is Yashua! :woot2
 
I think there is a difference between loving ourselves as we are to do and being puffed up with pride. When we love ourselves we care what happens to us, we take care to treat ourselves with respect and honor. When we are puffed up with pride we are full of ourselves and we place ourselves above everyone else instead of being ready to die for those we love. And who are those we love? Jesus says to love others as ourselves. Think about that.
Would you die for me Wip?
 
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