• Love God, and love one another!

    Share your heart for Christ and others in Godly Love

    https://christianforums.net/forums/god_love/

  • Wake up and smell the coffee!

    Join us for a little humor in Joy of the Lord

    https://christianforums.net/forums/humor_and_jokes/

  • Want to discuss private matters, or make a few friends?

    Ask for membership to the Men's or Lady's Locker Rooms

    For access, please contact a member of staff and they can add you in!

  • Need prayer and encouragement?

    Come share your heart's concerns in the Prayer Forum

    https://christianforums.net/forums/prayer/

  • Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?

    Join Hidden in Him and For His Glory for discussions on how

    https://christianforums.net/threads/become-a-vessel-of-honor-part-2.112306/

  • Have questions about the Christian faith?

    Come ask us what's on your mind in Questions and Answers

    https://christianforums.net/forums/questions-and-answers/

  • CFN has a new look and a new theme

    "I bore you on eagle's wings, and brought you to Myself" (Exodus 19:4)

    More new themes coming in the future!

  • Read the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ?

    Read through this brief blog, and receive eternal salvation as the free gift of God

    /blog/the-gospel

  • Focus on the Family

    Strengthening families through biblical principles.

    Focus on the Family addresses the use of biblical principles in parenting and marriage to strengthen the family.

sell kidneys?

Joined
Oct 23, 2010
Messages
14,304
Reaction score
10,787
OK. In one of my Liberty University Online classes, we have to do a discussion board topic fairly often. I chose to do a little post on the black market, and as my example, I chose the sale of kidneys. In the US, such transactions are illegal--these regulations date back to 1984.

Do you think we should legalize and regulate the sale of kidneys? Or keep it illegal? My personal position is that the government has a right, and perhaps sometimes an obligation, to take a moral stance on such issues. Actually, any legislation I can think of is guided by some kind of moral framework. If we legalize kidney sales, we're saying that such behavior is OK as long we can regulate it and protect those involved. If we keep it illegal, we're saying that such behavior is repugnant to the point that it should be outlawed.

I say keep it illegal. There was a case in 2011 of a man in NJ who trafficked kidneys. Orthodox Jewish man, made about 120,000 per kidney (paid poor people in Israel about 10,000 per kidney). I think he's in Federal Prison now.

What do y'all think?
 
I say keep it illegal.

What do y'all think?

I say that too, plus an automatic life sentence with the stipulation that all usable organs be removed upon death and anything left to go to science research.


shark-attack-smiley-emoticon.gif
................or this.
.
 
Restrictions on the sale of body parts should be applied to all involved. That includes the doctors, hospitals, and legislators who profit in playing God to those receiving them.

The thought brings me back to the opinion I have on health issues such as abortions, its proponents with their lobbies, and done with the supposed benefit to the recipients instead of the money it supplies to clinics.

Transplants are very big business. The cost? Oh my.

http://www.transplantliving.org/before-the-transplant/financing-a-transplant/the-costs/
Estimated U.S. Average 2011 Billed Charges Per Transplant

Heart - $997,700
Kidney - $262,900
Lung - - $561,200
 
Making things legal will not stop the black market.. ( check out the sale of dope in Colorado) many more poor people would be taken advantage of. Push the donation thing... Liver transplant saved my friends life.
 
Making things legal will not stop the black market.. ( check out the sale of dope in Colorado) many more poor people would be taken advantage of. Push the donation thing... Liver transplant saved my friends life.
common sense, as legal car sales doesn't stop black market theft of a car that is sold after being either sold in one piece or for scrap parts.
 
I say that too, plus an automatic life sentence with the stipulation that all usable organs be removed upon death and anything left to go to science research.


shark-attack-smiley-emoticon.gif
................or this.
.
I say keep it legal too.
 
Keep it illegal. Alive human organs are part of the original owner's life and humanity, and those two things aren't trade goods.
Also trading organs would favour people who are able to afford it (or "encourage" the poor and desperate to sell away parts of themselves). That would be like saying your life is worth as much as your bank account is.

Donations are a different matter though. If an organ is donated it's done without any payment to the donor so their parts do not become trade goods and thus the donor is not de-humanised.
 
Trading organs would favour people who are able to afford it
From what I've read, the rich profit already in their ability to be put to the front of the line in receiving donated organs. Hey, let's restrict donating organs in person only to direct members of the donor's family. Those medical personal advocating or promoting the idea that they are there to help humanity are to work for no more than minimum wages, and any hospital receiving any manner of federal subsidy be required to donate their facility free of charge.
:grumpy
 
Keep it illegal. Alive human organs are part of the original owner's life and humanity, and those two things aren't trade goods.
Also trading organs would favour people who are able to afford it (or "encourage" the poor and desperate to sell away parts of themselves). That would be like saying your life is worth as much as your bank account is.

Donations are a different matter though. If an organ is donated it's done without any payment to the donor so their parts do not become trade goods and thus the donor is not de-humanised.
exactly :)
 
There is alot of politics in donation organs.Such is our world.
 
A warm story about transplants
Our friend and her son were on gurneys ready and waiting for him to donate a portion of his liver to his mom..... We were saying our prayers .. in comes a nurse she asks .. Inge if it would be possible to put this surgery off to a later date... She is almost dead.... She asks why seems the transplant team was needed for a infant .. This grand lady says of course ...we went back next week.... She has been blessed with over 10 years now of time with her grandchildren.. :)
 
A warm story about transplants
Our friend and her son were on gurneys ready and waiting for him to donate a portion of his liver to his mom..... We were saying our prayers .. in comes a nurse she asks .. Inge if it would be possible to put this surgery off to a later date... She is almost dead.... She asks why seems the transplant team was needed for a infant .. This grand lady says of course ...we went back next week.... She has been blessed with over 10 years now of time with her grandchildren.. :)
That is a cool story.
 
A warm story about transplants
Our friend and her son were on gurneys ready and waiting for him to donate a portion of his liver to his mom..... We were saying our prayers .. in comes a nurse she asks .. Inge if it would be possible to put this surgery off to a later date... She is almost dead.... She asks why seems the transplant team was needed for a infant .. This grand lady says of course ...we went back next week.... She has been blessed with over 10 years now of time with her grandchildren.. :)

What testimony of unselfish proportions! Your friend was and continues to be blessed!
 
Back
Top