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Bible Study Sentimentality

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It is one thing to be silent and passive under suffering, and quite another to be conscious of its “needs be,” and (though at first it may be only in a very partial way) to derive such a real good and help from it, that instead of lamenting, one is owning to the Father His wisdom and thoughtfulness in putting one through such necessary discipline. Now this latter can never be reached but through exercise of soul. The trial one feels much ought to exercise one much before the Father.

If I am assured that His love is as great as His power, and neither knows measure nor end, then must I not be exercised before Him as to why in His love He should allow me to be so afflicted? The very exercise engages and connects my soul with Him (Rom 8:17; 1 Pe 4:13—NC), and this nearness acquires for me help and instruction about many other things. The waiting of the soul upon God in the time of affliction, is requited with a growth and strength in the knowledge of the Father which tends to relieve one of the suffering that was the original cause of waiting on Him; and the soul once truly habituated to wait on the Father learns so to value it that it never again can do without it. Then it learns to say, “All my springs are in Thee.”

The fact of the desolation which one feels here when a beloved one has been removed, and the hesitancy with which one refuses to submit to it, proves that the heart required the trial in order to discover to itself that it has rested and hoped in something outside of the Father. The exercise of the soul consequent on the affliction leads to that nearness and waiting on the Father which supplies what was before unknown. Most blessed when it has this, its true and intended effect.

We must beware of being sentimental in divine things; I mean by sentimental, your thoughts of the Lord Jesus centering in yourself. The tendency is to make oneself the center of everything passing, how it pains or cheers oneself, ever musing on oneself as if one were the one solitary object for the sunshine or the cloud to rest on, watching every alternation as it falls on or visits oneself. A soul in the strength of the Lord Jesus regards everything as He would regard it, and therefore he regards it with reference to the Father, and not to man.

This throws one out of self-centeredness into the wise and grand purpose of His present counsel and work. My interests and concerns fit in, in the great circle of His interests and concerns, and I see my own in connection and relation with all His. When affliction occurs I accept it as a call to me, and as an aid from Him to be more separated from myself—a check, a breaking off of some unknown or unperceived growth of the old man, and hence redounding to a deeper and fuller abiding altogether above in Him.

If I am a hero to myself, or a martyr, I am sentimental. My thoughts are occupied about myself, and I look at and regard divine things as they suit my thinking about myself, and not as answering to what He is thinking of me. I am confining the Lord to myself instead of rising up and seeing myself lost in Him, and then following Him in all the greatness and blessedness of His work and ways down here.

- J B Stoney

Miles J Stanford devotional: http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 
That's precisely why I give thanks and praise to our Lord during all times, not just when the going is good. He knows what He is doing in my life.
 
That's precisely why I give thanks and praise to our Lord during all times, not just when the going is good. He knows what He is doing in my life.
Hi AD and Amen! He has our entire life-course planned, and "it's all good."
 
Hi AD and Amen! He has our entire life-course planned, and "it's all good."

I so agree!

Of course, that's not to say there haven't been times when I've rather requested a black & white, hard copy of His timetable schedule for me!

Our Lord is perfect!
 
Respectfully, I am full of doubts. It all SOUNDS great, but fails the empirical test of life. Those we love suffer and die, often cruelly and often seemingly pointlessly. People 'wait on the Lord' in affliction and suffering under degenerative ailments. Promises in Gods word can sound and feel like empty mockery.

But as Christians, we dare not say so. We dare not admit it even to ourselves. I am reminded of the words of Peter "To whom shall we go, you alone have the words of life." When I first read those words, they sounded like such a proclaimation of hope and faith. Now they feel like a sad and empty mockery. There is nowhere else to go to find life, and yet, the promised 'abundant life' continues to mockingly elude us.

There are moments when an honest man might question the innate goodness of God.
Of course these are not thoughts 'appropriate' for a Christian, so we would never dare to speak them. We just paint smiley faces on everything and lie.
"Everything is fine."
"Just fine?"
"No, of course not. We are blessed and highly favored."

... What other answer is appropriate?
 
As human beings, during a time of trauma, we will naturally experience moments - or many moments - of emotions. We may even ask our Lord "Why?"

The answer generally isn't forthcoming.

That's why we must walk in faith, and thank and praise Him for everything in our lives, the good as well as the bad.

Recently, one of my beloved offspring was the victim of the war on police. Offspring will recover from the injuries. Initially, I was angry at the criminal. Very angry, actually. Turning to prayer, to give thanks and praise to our Lord, He eased the anger from me over the course of a few days. (I'm still working to rid myself of the stubbornness that clings to my personality, so the easing wasn't immediate.)

The long and short of it: I probably won't know in this life precisely why the criminal decided to attack my offspring. But as long as I was in faith with our Lord, I know He will carry me when I experience times of not being capable of walking. And I certainly wasn't capable of walking when I received the news about the attack.
 
Respectfully, I am full of doubts. It all SOUNDS great, but fails the empirical test of life. Those we love suffer and die, often cruelly and often seemingly pointlessly. People 'wait on the Lord' in affliction and suffering under degenerative ailments. Promises in Gods word can sound and feel like empty mockery.

Psalms 90:1-17
Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
Before the mountains were brought forth,
or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world,
even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Thou turnest man to destruction;
and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
For a thousand years in thy sight
are but as yesterday when it is past,
and as a watch in the night.
Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep:
in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up;
in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.
For we are consumed by thine anger,
and by thy wrath are we troubled.
Thou hast set our iniquities before thee,
our secret sins in the light of thy countenance.
For all our days are passed away in thy wrath:
we spend our years as a tale that is told.
The days of our years are threescore years and ten;
and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years,
yet is their strength labour and sorrow;
for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
Who knoweth the power of thine anger?
even according to thy fear, so is thy wrath.
So teach us to number our days,
that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
Return, O Lord, how long?
and let it repent thee concerning thy servants.
O satisfy us early with thy mercy;
that we may rejoice and be glad all our days.
Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us,
and the years wherein we have seen evil.
Let thy work appear unto thy servants,
and thy glory unto their children.
And let the beauty of the Lord our God be upon us:
and establish thou the work of our hands upon us;
yea, the work of our hands establish thou it.
 
Respectfully, I am full of doubts. It all SOUNDS great, but fails the empirical test of life. Those we love suffer and die, often cruelly and often seemingly pointlessly. People 'wait on the Lord' in affliction and suffering under degenerative ailments. Promises in Gods word can sound and feel like empty mockery.

But as Christians, we dare not say so. We dare not admit it even to ourselves. I am reminded of the words of Peter "To whom shall we go, you alone have the words of life." When I first read those words, they sounded like such a proclaimation of hope and faith. Now they feel like a sad and empty mockery. There is nowhere else to go to find life, and yet, the promised 'abundant life' continues to mockingly elude us.

There are moments when an honest man might question the innate goodness of God.
Of course these are not thoughts 'appropriate' for a Christian, so we would never dare to speak them. We just paint smiley faces on everything and lie.
"Everything is fine."
"Just fine?"
"No, of course not. We are blessed and highly favored."

... What other answer is appropriate?
But that is only if you focus on this life instead of the life to come. The promise is not earthly. The promise is on the eternal. My earthly life is a wreck. I may never see success or peace in this short temporary life. No matter. I'm being prepared for the eternal.
 
Respectfully, I am full of doubts. It all SOUNDS great, but fails the empirical test of life. Those we love suffer and die, often cruelly and often seemingly pointlessly. People 'wait on the Lord' in affliction and suffering under degenerative ailments. Promises in Gods word can sound and feel like empty mockery.
Hi Atpollard - I appreciate your respect and what you've shared, but all believers will go through a learning process towards becoming more mature in our understanding, and there's not much more than this for now that can be said. I believe you're at the point of maturing or this article wouldn't have caught your interest.

God bless!
 
Respectfully, I am full of doubts. It all SOUNDS great, but fails the empirical test of life. Those we love suffer and die, often cruelly and often seemingly pointlessly. People 'wait on the Lord' in affliction and suffering under degenerative ailments. Promises in Gods word can sound and feel like empty mockery.

But as Christians, we dare not say so. We dare not admit it even to ourselves. I am reminded of the words of Peter "To whom shall we go, you alone have the words of life." When I first read those words, they sounded like such a proclaimation of hope and faith. Now they feel like a sad and empty mockery. There is nowhere else to go to find life, and yet, the promised 'abundant life' continues to mockingly elude us.

There are moments when an honest man might question the innate goodness of God.
Of course these are not thoughts 'appropriate' for a Christian, so we would never dare to speak them. We just paint smiley faces on everything and lie.
"Everything is fine."
"Just fine?"
"No, of course not. We are blessed and highly favored."

... What other answer is appropriate?
Living that now.I can't reconcile my war expercience at times .
 
But that is only if you focus on this life instead of the life to come. The promise is not earthly. The promise is on the eternal. My earthly life is a wreck. I may never see success or peace in this short temporary life. No matter. I'm being prepared for the eternal.

hello daninthelionsden, dirtfarmer here

With your understanding you have passed from death unto life while alive on this earth.
Ephesian 5:20, " Giving thanks for all things unto God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
1 Thessalonians 5:18 " In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."

We don't know who is watching us as we live life. If we act like the world by complaining and cursing when things don't go as we planned, we could be the instrument that Satan uses to discourage some one fro becoming a believer. God has promised that there is no temptation that has come our way that God has not provided a way of escape. If we endure those hardships by giving God the glory for the way to over come, we will receive rewards in heaven.

God has not promised happiness but he has given us joy in Christ in the midst of stormy seas.
 
hello daninthelionsden, dirtfarmer here

With your understanding you have passed from death unto life while alive on this earth.
Ephesian 5:20, " Giving thanks for all things unto God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
1 Thessalonians 5:18 " In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."

We don't know who is watching us as we live life. If we act like the world by complaining and cursing when things don't go as we planned, we could be the instrument that Satan uses to discourage some one fro becoming a believer. God has promised that there is no temptation that has come our way that God has not provided a way of escape. If we endure those hardships by giving God the glory for the way to over come, we will receive rewards in heaven.

God has not promised happiness but he has given us joy in Christ in the midst of stormy seas.
Yep. I love my Lord and give Him thanks in the middle of this nightmare. While I cannot comprehend the magnitude of corruption and greed I have encountered, I can rest assured of Christ's eternal promises. This mortal time on earth will pass away but His kingdom is forever.
 
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