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[Hitch]

Is there any reason to take any of the popular futurist theories seriously?

I would venture that the average guy in the pew would dismiss out of hand the notion, so important to futurism, that the church is never prophesied .

 

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Is there any reason to take any of the popular futurist theories seriously?

I would venture that the average guy in the pew would dismiss out of hand the notion, so important to futurism, that the church is never prophesied .

A basic premise of what you term 'futurist' and therefore non-existing textual theories is the promise of the eventual destruction of all lawlessness, written from cover to cover that has assuredly not yet transpired.

Futurism on this level is an internal and spiritual matter, and we will 'all' know when it transpires, as it has assuredly not yet transpired.

The 'future' release of creation from death, corruption, weakness and dishonor is a very well documented fact of 'future' events.

Externally viewing these matters is quite worthless. So a footnote to any futurist version, 'external' is doomed to fault and failure until the interior view is applied 1st and that being the essence and fulcrum of future prophecies.

I take both preterist views and futurist views externally applied and observed as basically worthless and missing the points above entirely.

Numerous scriptures available for the futurist views...1 Cor. 15 and Romans 8 being basic starters. And no, they didn't happen 'yet.'

enjoy!

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[for_his_glory]

Theories are just that and are not justifiable to anyone whether they be of God or not. Theories are nothing more than ones opinion of something they truly know nothing about, but speculate and rationalize by what others theorize by anothers teaching. We have all the knowledge right in front of us that is called the Bible and if we would just pick it up and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal all truths instead of relying on anothers thinking then we would all be better prepared for those things which must happen before the glorious return of Christ.

 

[Hitch]

A basic premise of what you term 'futurist' and therefore non-existing textual theories is the promise of the eventual destruction of all lawlessness, written from cover to cover that has assuredly not yet transpired.

Futurism on this level is an internal and spiritual matter, and we will 'all' know when it transpires, as it has assuredly not yet transpired.

The 'future' release of creation from death, corruption, weakness and dishonor is a very well documented fact of 'future' events.

Externally viewing these matters is quite worthless. So a footnote to any futurist version, 'external' is doomed to fault and failure until the interior view is applied 1st and that being the essence and fulcrum of future prophecies.

I take both preterist views and futurist views externally applied and observed as basically worthless and missing the points above entirely.

Numerous scriptures available for the futurist views...1 Cor. 15 and Romans 8 being basic starters. And no, they didn't happen 'yet.'

enjoy!

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Still cant answer a straight question I see.

 

[Hitch]

Theories are just that and are not justifiable to anyone whether they be of God or not.

Nonsense

Theories are nothing more than ones opinion of something they truly know nothing about, but speculate and rationalize by what others theorize by anothers teaching.

see above

We have all the knowledge right in front of us that is called the Bible and if we would just pick it up and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal all truths instead of relying on anothers thinking then we would all be better prepared for those things which must happen before the glorious return of Christ.

My this appears to contain the standard 'those truly spiritual all and always agree' the rest of you fools are just that.

 

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Still cant answer a straight question I see.

My answer was quite straight. I reject your past tense views as being applicable to the real subject matter 'almost' entirely, and also stated 'why' which you are welcome to try to tackle.

I always expect dodging in any case.

s

 

[Stormcrow]

...and if we would just pick it up and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal all truths instead of relying on anothers thinking then we would all be better prepared for those things which must happen before the glorious return of Christ.

So then, what is the point of God appointing pastors and teachers in the church?

 

[Stormcrow]

Is there any reason to take any of the popular futurist theories seriously?

Yes, if only because they tend to make those who believe them and preach them look ridiculous to the unsaved. (Harold Camping, anyone???)

And because they look like fools, it tends to make all of us in the church look the same by association.

 

[Hitch]

My answer was quite straight. I reject your past tense views as being applicable to the real subject matter 'almost' entirely, and also stated 'why' which you are welcome to try to tackle.

I always expect dodging in any case.

s

I havent the foggiest notion .

 

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I havent the foggiest notion .

Well by all means allow me to simplify the equation for you (even more.)

Do you deny that the passing away of corruption, weakness, dishonor and death is a future transpiring promise of the Gospel?

And if this is so, what do you have against this fact of futurism?

Here is what you have done:

You take Biblical prophecy, link it to 'external past events' as your claim of fulfillment when the bigger claim to come making it futurist remains staring you right in the eyes.

Your imposition remains hinged on matters that are entirely irrelevant to the 'real' futurist claims, any other nonsense external futurist spouter notwithstanding...(i.e. H. Camping.)

The scriptural fact remains that death, corruption, dishonor and weakness passing away ARE the matters of real futurist prophecies that have 'not yet' transpired.

...and looking back at your supposed factual details from 70 a.d. really have about zero to do with the real subject matter.

s

 

[Hitch]

Well by all means allow me to simplify the equation for you (even more.)

Do you deny that the passing away of corruption, weakness, dishonor and death is a future transpiring promise of the Gospel?

And if this is so, what do you have against this fact of futurism?

Here is what you have done:

You take Biblical prophecy, link it to 'external past events' as your claim of fulfillment when the bigger claim to come making it futurist remains staring you right in the eyes.

Your imposition remains hinged on matters that are entirely irrelevant to the 'real' futurist claims, any other nonsense external futurist spouter notwithstanding...(i.e. H. Camping.)

The scriptural fact remains that death, corruption, dishonor and weakness passing away ARE the matters of real futurist prophecies that have 'not yet' transpired.

...and looking back at your supposed factual details from 70 a.d. really have about zero to do with the real subject matter.

s

Thats a lot just to dodge the 'real futurist' claim that the church is historically parenthetical and unprophesied in the ancient Scriptures:biglol

 

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Thats a lot just to dodge the 'real futurist' claim that the church is historically parenthetical and unprophesied in the ancient Scriptures:biglol

You have merely inserted one of many false claims and made that to be futurism when it's basic faulty logic on your part to address the genuine futurist promises of Gods Words...

There are 'many many' promises yet to be fulfilled, this being the last one:

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Fulfilled in 70 a.d. you say?

lol

There will be a LOT of 'enemy destruction' prior to the 'last enemy' being destroyed.

s

 

[Hitch]

You have merely inserted one of many false claims and made that to be futurism when it's basic faulty logic on your part to address the genuine futurist promises of Gods Words...

There are 'many many' promises yet to be fulfilled, this being the last one:

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Fulfilled in 70 a.d. you say?

lol

There will be a LOT of 'enemy destruction' prior to the 'last enemy' being destroyed.

s

Obviously there is some part of 'popular futurist theories' that remains beyond your capability.

Since you dont care to address the topic post elsewhere.

Enjoy.

 

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Obviously there is some part of 'popular futurist theories' that remains beyond your capability.

Since you dont care to address the topic post elsewhere.

Enjoy.

As opposed to popular past theories?

lol

Two false theories fighting is beneficial to this thread?

again, lol

You are welcome to argue past fulfillment and claim that denigrates futurist realities of Gospel fulfillment...after all one false claim over rides another, right?

lol

s

 

[Hitch]

As opposed to popular past theories?

lol

Two false theories fighting is beneficial to this thread?

again, lol

You are welcome to argue past fulfillment and claim that denigrates futurist realities of Gospel fulfillment...after all one false claim over rides another, right?

lol

s

Since you dont care to address the topic post elsewhere.

 

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