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Should humans eat meat ?

Lewis

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[SIZE=+4]Were Humans Meant to Eat Meat?[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]
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[SIZE=+1]Cardiologist William C. Roberts hails from the famed cattle state of Texas, but he says this without hesitation: Humans aren't physiologically designed to eat meat. "I think the evidence is pretty clear. If you look at various characteristics of carnivores versus herbivores, it doesn't take a genius to see where humans line up," says Roberts, editor in chief of The American Journal of Cardiology and medical director of the Baylor Heart and Vascular Institute at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas. © Stephen Kroninger[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]As further evidence, Roberts cites the carnivore's short intestinal tract, which reaches about three times its body length. An herbivore's intestines are 12 times its body length, and humans are closer to herbivores, he says. Roberts rattles off other similarities between human beings and herbivores. Both get vitamin C from their diets (carnivores make it internally). Both sip water, not lap it up with their tongues. Both cool their bodies by perspiring (carnivores pant).[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]

Human beings and herbivorous animals have little mouths in relation to their head sizes, unlike carnivores, whose big mouths are all the better for "seizing, killing and dismembering prey," argues nutrition specialist Dr. Milton R. Mills, associate director of preventive medicine for the Washington, D.C.-based Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM). People and herbivores extensively chew their food, he says, whereas swallowing food whole is the preferred method of carnivores and omnivores.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Got Milk?[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Dr. Neal D. Barnard, PCRM's founder and president, says humans lack the raw abilities to be good hunters. "We are not quick, like cats, hawks or other predators," he says. "It was not until the advent of arrowheads, hatchets and other implements that killing and capturing prey became possible."[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Milk, another animal product, can also be problematic for people. That's why, in response to the popular "Got Milk?" ad campaign, Barnard's organization sponsored billboards this past summer that read, "Got Diarrhea?"[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]

"Dairy foods are definitely not a natural part of our diet," contends vegetarian dietitian and author Virginia Messina, who fields the public's nutritional questions at www.VegRD.com. "We only started consuming them about 10,000 years ago, which is very recent in our evolution. Our physiology suggests that we really did not evolve to consume dairy beyond early childhood."
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Three out of 10 adults are lactose intolerant, meaning they can't digest the sugar in milk.

So they likely suffer gas or diarrhea when undigested lactose reaches the large intestine, according to an April report in the Nutrition Action Healthletter.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]While celebrities sport milk mustaches in ad campaigns, some research raises questions as to whether milk is a better source of calcium than, say, spinach or collard greens. Echoing the conclusions of research elsewhere, a Harvard University study of more than 75,000 nurses found no evidence that nurses who drank the most milk enjoyed fewer broken bones.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]

Are We Omnivores?
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Milk's high protein actually could leach calcium from bones, according to Dr. Walter Willett, of the Harvard School of Public Health, speaking on the PBS program HealthWeek.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"Drinking cow milk has been linked to iron-deficiency anemia in infants and children; it has been named as the cause of cramps and diarrhea in much of the world's population and the cause of multiple forms of allergies as well.

The possibility has been raised that it may play a central role in the origins of atherosclerosis and heart attacks," writes Dr. Frank Oski, former director of the Johns Hopkins University Department of Pediatrics, in his book, Don't Drink Your Milk!
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]As intriguing as these arguments may be, the idea that humans are natural vegetarians has "no scientific basis in fact," argues anatomist and primatologist John McArdle. Alarmed by this growing belief, McArdle, a vegetarian, says the human anatomy proves that people are omnivores.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]"We obviously are not carnivores, but we are equally obviously not strict vegetarians, if you carefully examine the anatomical, physiological and fossil evidence," says McArdle, executive director of the Alternatives Research and Development Foundation in Eden Prairie, Minnesota.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]According to a 1999 article in the journal The Ecologist, several of our physiological features "clearly indicate a design" for eating meat, including "our stomach's production of hydrochloric acid, something not found in herbivores.

Furthermore, the human pancreas manufactures a full range of digestive enzymes to handle a wide variety of foods, both animal and vegetable.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"While humans may have longer intestines than animal carnivores, they are not as long as herbivores'; nor do we possess multiple stomachs like many herbivores, nor do we chew cud," the magazine adds. "Our physiology definitely indicates a mixed feeder.

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[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]If people were designed to be strict vegetarians, McArdle expects we would have a specialized colon, specialized teeth and a stomach that doesn't have a generalized pH-all the better to handle roughage. Tom Billings, a vegetarian for three decades and site editor of BeyondVeg.com, believes humans are natural omnivores. Helping prove it, he says, is the fact that people have a low synthesis rate of the fatty acid DHA and of taurine, suggesting our early ancestors relied on animal foods to get these nutrients. Vitamin B-12, also, isn't reliably found in plants.

That, Billings says, left "animal foods as the reliable source during evolution."
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]History argues in favor of the omnivore argument, considering that humans have eaten meat for 2.5 million years or more, according to fossil evidence. Indeed, when researchers examined the chemical makeup of the teeth of an early African hominid that lived in woodlands three million years ago, they expected to learn that our ancestor lived on fruits and leaves.

"But the isotopic clues show that it ate a varied diet, including either grassland plants or animals that themselves fed on grasses," reported the journal Science in 1999.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]So, the question remains: Are humans natural vegetarians? In the end, whether a person lives a vegetarian lifestyle has less to do with esoteric matters of anatomy and more to do with ethics and personal values. The architecture of the human body offers no simple answers.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.rense.com/general20/meant.htm
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Hi Lewis,

I think a passage that wraps it up pretty well is Genesis 9:2-3.

Genesis 9:2-3
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.

Certainly in our freedom in Christ, we can abstain from any food out of love for each other, but let every man eat with faith, or else we are sinning.

- Davies
 
Hi Lewis,

I think a passage that wraps it up pretty well is Genesis 9:2-3.

Genesis 9:2-3
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.

Certainly in our freedom in Christ, we can abstain from any food out of love for each other, but let every man eat with faith, or else we are sinning.

- Davies
I thought about those passages when I was putting that article in here. And it was after the fall, because before the fall, we did not eat meat. Adam messed us up didn't he:sad I myself do eat meat, but I am aware of what it can do to you. Onetime I did not eat meat for about 2 years almost. Now cows milk is mucus and it is not for humans period.
 
As I always point out, the medical establishment, and this gentleman is no exception, has a worldly view of things and of course I don't expect them to believe what the bible says.

However, it's clear that man is an omnivore actually. I hate this veggie vs meat debate. Why not both? People these days seem to be one extreme or the other.

Biblically, Leviticus tells us what the clean meats are. The Lord would not have us eat them if they were harmful, as Jesus Himself did as well. That said, probably the so-called "harm" that we get from eating meat is not from the meat, per se, but how we feed our cattle, and the drugs we pump into them. Is there any food, even so-called natural food, that does not have mankind tainting it somehow?

Also, the bible talks about fruit/vegetable (plant foods) as well.

What are the seven staples of Israel? Let's see if I can remember them tonight.

Wheat, Barley (and not refined junk either like you find in the stores), pomegranates, grapes (i.e wine derived from them), dates, figs, olive oil. Some Jewish commentators like to add an eighth --- almonds. And since these are mostly grains and fruits, we can also add the "herbs" if you like your salad. :lol And the milk and cheese in the bible was goat-based variety. So, that covers all the food groups: 1) protein, 2) nuts and other "meaty" (caloric--fat/protein) seeds and growths, 3) fruit, 4) (fibrous) vegetables, 5) dairy and 6) grains.

OK --- so eat all this stuff and I don't want to hear any more "experts" or for that matter fighting over it. I got this from the Bible. :lol
 
Now cows milk is mucus and it is not for humans period.

It tastes good. Good for cooking. I know people who have drank milk all there life, and many of them are in their eighties, nineties. Who are you to say is not for humans?

Colossians 2:20-23
New King James Version (NKJV)
20 Therefore,[a] if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations— 21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,†22 which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men? 23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

- Davies
 
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