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Sin nature

golfjack

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The word translated atonement in Romans 5:11 is actually redemption. Atonement is an Old Testament word which simply means to cover the sins of Israel while the sins were borne away by the scapegoat.

The nature in man that had caused him to sin remained to be dealt with, that nature in man that made him lie, steal, and break the law. Under the New Covenant, Jesus dealt with that sin-nature. He took that nature away by the sacrifice of Himself. ( Heb. 9:24-26).

Notice the scripture doesn't say sins. Sins are deeds or acts that are wrong. It says, sin, referrring to man's sin-nature, the thing that caused him to do what he did. Hebrews 9:28. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Christ not only botre our sins, our deeds and acts of wrongdoing, He also bore our sin, man's sin nature.

After all, it would not do me any good for Christ to bear just my sins; I still would have that old sin-nature in me, and I could not help but do wrong. I still would be the same kind of creature I always had been. But when He put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, Jesus did something about that sin-nature that caused me to sin. And He did it once and for all.

When I accepted Jesus as my Savior and confessed Him as my Lord, the Holy Spirit did something in me. This is part of the Pauline revelation not found anywhere else in the New Testament.

For example, Second Cor. 5:17 says, therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away. Do you know what this old thing is that passed away? It is the old sin-nature; behold all things are become new. You have a new nature inside. At the very moment you were born again, that inward nature was changed. Now, isn't that something to shout about? If I have a new nature, why in the world would I call myself an old sinner saved by grace? Thiink about it.



May God bless, Golfjack
 
golfjack said:
The word translated atonement in Romans 5:11 is actually redemption. Atonement is an Old Testament word which simply means to cover the sins of Israel while the sins were borne away by the scapegoat.

The nature in man that had caused him to sin remained to be dealt with, that nature in man that made him lie, steal, and break the law. Under the New Covenant, Jesus dealt with that sin-nature. He took that nature away by the sacrifice of Himself. ( Heb. 9:24-26).

Notice the scripture doesn't say sins. Sins are deeds or acts that are wrong. It says, sin, referrring to man's sin-nature, the thing that caused him to do what he did. Hebrews 9:28. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Christ not only botre our sins, our deeds and acts of wrongdoing, He also bore our sin, man's sin nature.

After all, it would not do me any good for Christ to bear just my sins; I still would have that old sin-nature in me, and I could not help but do wrong. I still would be the same kind of creature I always had been. But when He put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, Jesus did something about that sin-nature that caused me to sin. And He did it once and for all.

When I accepted Jesus as my Savior and confessed Him as my Lord, the Holy Spirit did something in me. This is part of the Pauline revelation not found anywhere else in the New Testament.

For example, Second Cor. 5:17 says, therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away. Do you know what this old thing is that passed away? It is the old sin-nature; behold all things are become new. You have a new nature inside. At the very moment you were born again, that inward nature was changed. Now, isn't that something to shout about? If I have a new nature, why in the world would I call myself an old sinner saved by grace? Thiink about it.



May God bless, Golfjack

Yes I agree Jack, those who are in Christ have become a new creature. However, if the old sin nature has passed away, what do you say Paul was referring to as regards the flesh being at war with the spirit?
 
golfjack said:
The word translated atonement in Romans 5:11 is actually redemption. Atonement is an Old Testament word which simply means to cover the sins of Israel while the sins were borne away by the scapegoat.

The nature in man that had caused him to sin remained to be dealt with, that nature in man that made him lie, steal, and break the law. Under the New Covenant, Jesus dealt with that sin-nature. He took that nature away by the sacrifice of Himself. ( Heb. 9:24-26).

Notice the scripture doesn't say sins. Sins are deeds or acts that are wrong. It says, sin, referrring to man's sin-nature, the thing that caused him to do what he did. Hebrews 9:28. So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Christ not only botre our sins, our deeds and acts of wrongdoing, He also bore our sin, man's sin nature.

After all, it would not do me any good for Christ to bear just my sins; I still would have that old sin-nature in me, and I could not help but do wrong. I still would be the same kind of creature I always had been. But when He put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, Jesus did something about that sin-nature that caused me to sin. And He did it once and for all.

When I accepted Jesus as my Savior and confessed Him as my Lord, the Holy Spirit did something in me. This is part of the Pauline revelation not found anywhere else in the New Testament.

For example, Second Cor. 5:17 says, therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away. Do you know what this old thing is that passed away? It is the old sin-nature; behold all things are become new. You have a new nature inside. At the very moment you were born again, that inward nature was changed. Now, isn't that something to shout about? If I have a new nature, why in the world would I call myself an old sinner saved by grace? Thiink about it.



May God bless, Golfjack

Christ did not redeem us of our sinful nature. This is an inherent part of us until we die the first death. Had Christ redeemed our sinful nature none of us would die the first death; something which is required by the Fall. Christ is not our biological father, but our spiritual one by redeeming us from our sins. Your inherited sinful nature stays with you until the resurrection of the dead. It is a mistake to confuse man's sinful nature with sin itself.
 
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