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Six hundred sixteen

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Aharon

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Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The famous "666" is perhaps the best known part of the Book of Revelation, even to those who never even heard of the book. But since the finding of the oldest version of the Book of Revelation, the status of 666 as being "the devil's number" is in jeopardy. This is because the writing is translated 616, not 666.

What is the significance of 616? The Greeks' alphabet had numerical equivalents which they used instead of numbers. A name could thus be converted into a number by adding the numerical values of the letters. It is thus possible that the beast will use 616 because it is "the number of his name" (Revelation 15:2).

Also, the number of the name of the Nero Caesar is 616, or 666 if you add another "n" to "Nero" (Neron) which was another name for him. A connection is likely. Perhaps a symbolic connection between his number and the beast's is meant, since Nero was a Roman emperor and the beast will rule (or, as some believe, will be) the new Roman Empire. This would also give an explanation for the statement "the number of a man." It would thus mean "the number of a man in history named Nero."

Finally, that would account for the number change, since Nero's name has a numerical value of 616 or 666, though the beast's number will only be 616, as that was the original number in the vision.

Theorize and speculate on the significance of 616 here.

~Aharon--
 
I'll also stick with the 666 interpretation as it appears in my Bible, but for a very good reason:

The number '666' is referred to in 3 other places in the Bible:

Ezra 2:13 - number of the people of Adonikam (who returned to Jerusalem from Babylon and were thus Satanists);
1 Kings 10:14 - '666 talents of gold';
2 Chr. 9:13 - '666 talents of gold', in both these cases received as tribute by Solomon (whose temple contains all wealth).

"666 talents of gold" headed to the "Bank" of Solomon in my opinion refers to the Satanic practice of usury banking, clearly condemned at numerous points in the Bible - Exo. 22:25, Lev. 25:36, Lev. 25:37, Deu. 23:19, Neh. 5:7, Neh. 5:10, Psa. 15:5, Eze. 18:8, Eze. 18:13, Eze. 18:17, Eze. 22:12, and most notably by the actions of Jesus Himself; Mat. 21:12. So why does everybody globally participate in usury, including Christians? Anyone with a mortgage or bank-loan is a willing participant in this Satanic scam.

Watch our hard-earned money headed to the "Temple of Solomon":

http://www.toptips.com/debtclock.html

Pastor Emry's study sums up the desperate situation:

http://www.justiceplus.org/bankers.htm

Neh. 5:7: Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

Eze. 18:13 ...hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
 
disruptor said:
Anyone with a mortgage or bank-loan is a willing participant in this Satanic scam.
i cant get a loan now? as a grad student i guess i'm majorly screwed.....
 
No...you're already being majorly screwed by the Satanic system to whom you will likely be enslaved through debt for the rest of your life.

The time you will spend working to pay off those debts is precious time you could be spending promoting God's works, appreciating His creation, being with your family, fighting Satanism and so forth. By working you to the point of exhaustion through debt, the system ensures your compliance and prevents your rebellion.

Even if you personally are fortunate enough to end up without any debts, your federal and state authorities have debts which they will pay by taxing your labor. So one way or another, you will probably end up working for them and for their master Satan. Most people do.

Most education is corrupt and un-Christian anyway, with many universities teaching a range of satanic trivia while perverting students into an "anything-goes" eclecticism. Such parasitic and pointless universities should be abolished immediately and destroyed, or turned into poor-houses, in my opinion. Students should start again with a Bible, a piece of paper and a pencil.

Mat 6:24 Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day [is] the evil thereof.
 
Reznwerks wrote:

666 was mistranslated

The Greek New Testament clearly has ΧΞΣ'.

That's Chi Xi Sigma, the Greek numerals for 666.

How has this been “mistranslated”? This is the only way of writing 666 in Greek, and that's exactly how it's written in the Greek New Testament. And that's exactly how the translators translated it – 666, like it says.

It's not like it's a difficult or obscure sentence or anything...

If you write ΧΞΣ' in Hebrew it looks a bit like Nero Caesar (but not quite, one letter away) – so satanically corrupt the reading to 616, and you've got the misinterpretation as Nero – and the whole issue is then “historical”, and no longer about the present-day situation. The present day is clearly what the whole of Revelation is about, in my opinion.

By faking a “616” interpretation, Satan draws the Bible reader's attention away from the other mentions of 666 in the Bible. How convenient for Satan if everyone thinks it's “616”.

The facts on Greek numerals are in any Greek Grammar, such as these free downloads at:

http://www.textkit.com/greek_grammar.php

Rev 20:3 ...And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
 
something neat:

Ezra 2:13 2+1+3=6

1 Kings 10:14 1+0+1+4=6

2 Chr. 9:13 9x1-3=6


yeah the last one is stretching it a little but I still think its cool.

I will continue to have believe in the traditional 666, but I don't really care much, my faith is strong and when the time comes for judgement I will walk with god, no matter what number it is, because I know and love christ.
 
Merciful said:
something neat:

Ezra 2:13 2+1+3=6

1 Kings 10:14 1+0+1+4=6

2 Chr. 9:13 9x1-3=6


yeah the last one is stretching it a little but I still think its cool.

I will continue to have believe in the traditional 666, but I don't really care much, my faith is strong and when the time comes for judgement I will walk with god, no matter what number it is, because I know and love christ.
Good look at things. Keep up the faith!
 
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