Soulmates

[KevinK]

You don't "see" a soulmate relationship - you experience it.
It makes you feel more complete.
Wondering

Sorry, I clumped the phrases. I meant have you physically seen your own soulmate, whether you've entered into a relationship with them or not?

How did I feel? Well, it was the best 5 seconds of my entire life. To describe it, I would use the description unconditional Love. If you've never felt love that was truly unconditional, like that from the Father Himself, or from a child, or perhaps a small animal, you're in for a treat. Even for five seconds, it makes an entire life time of misery worthwhile.

 

[GodsGrace]

I think it is. I think that when there's a love connection...that it feels so divine that...we put a label on it.

There's no scriptures about it. It doesnt say therefore a man will leave his mother and father and cleave unto his soulmate...

You leave your father and mother to cleave unto your wife.
Your wife may also be your soulmate.
And then again, maybe not...

Seems to me that it's two totally different ideas.

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, with all due respect to those who believe otherwise...
How could God choose someone who isnt our soulmate?
Does not love need to be nurtured?
Of course it does, so when one or both stop nurturing it, the SM feeling goes away.

No, you can't choose who is to be your SM. It just happens.

I agree with your last sentence.

The rest could be debated.
God could choose the perfect person for you.
You could have all your fundamentals perfectly in sync; finances, how to raise kids, where to live, what house to buy, etc. etc. You'll get along really well for life. You love each other. But does this mean you're soulmates??
OR
Could you have a soulmate you're not even married to?

 

[GodsGrace]

Thank you, Sister. I've been told that before.

Scripture says...and the two shall become one. This is more than a flesh thing, it's spiritual...it's, love. It's the greatest power on earth and few find it.

Early in the relationship, everybody's in a good mood, transmitting positive energy, on their best behavior...that could be possible to make a connection and get to feel the love. But the heart is deceitfully wicked and may not be allowed to grow through neglect, temptation, or darkness in ones heart. Then the individuals go into survival/protective mode and then any good connection is nigh impossible.

Am I too innocent?
It seems to me that if the love is real, it won't deteriorate into phase two.
No need for survival and/or protective mode. This is where trust comes in.
Trust is an integral part of love. Also of soulmates.

 

[GodsGrace]

Sorry, I clumped the phrases. I meant have you physically seen your own soulmate, whether you've entered into a relationship with them or not?

How did I feel? Well, it was the best 5 seconds of my entire life. To describe it, I would use the description unconditional Love. If you've never felt love that was truly unconditional, like that from the Father Himself, or from a child, or perhaps a small animal, you're in for a treat. Even for five seconds, it makes an entire life time of misery worthwhile.

I don't believe you could know if someone is a soulmate UNLESS you enter into a relationship with that person. Relationship does not equal intimacy. How would you know they're your soulmate?

And unconditional love. This is a subject! is there such a thing?
You would have put no conditions on love had you met and continued a relationship with that person you saw for 5 seconds? I think we all have conditions. Think about it.

 

[KevinK]

I don't believe you could know if someone is a soulmate UNLESS you enter into a relationship with that person. Relationship does not equal intimacy. How would you know they're your soulmate?

And unconditional love. This is a subject! is there such a thing?
You would have put no conditions on love had you met and continued a relationship with that person you saw for 5 seconds? I think we all have conditions. Think about it.

I just knew. And I knew some three months before it happened. But thank you for offering your opinion, though it differs from mine.

Unconditional love has gotten so rare that some don't think it exists at all? Perhaps, but what a sad commentary on this world. Isn't God's love unconditional? He doesn't force us to receive it; many turn away, too many. I believe the reason we're here on earth is to learn to love this way. No-one is saying it's easy, or very common. Which is precisely why when it happens, you know it's either something very special, or you're spending time with a dog.

 

[GodsGrace]

I just knew. And I knew some three months before it happened. But thank you for offering your opinion, though it differs from mine.

Unconditional love has gotten so rare that some don't think it exists at all? Perhaps, but what a sad commentary on this world. Isn't God's love unconditional? He doesn't force us to receive it; many turn away, too many. I believe the reason we're here on earth is to learn to love this way. No-one is saying it's easy, or very common. Which is precisely why when it happens, you know it's either something very special, or you're spending time with a dog.

Well. Let's discuss for a moment before giving up.

God's love is unconditional. Agreed.

I know someone who is very much for unconditional love. He forgives everyone everything. I mean everything. Even unrepentant mass murderers are going to heaven because God loves us unconditionally and they don't really know what they're doing.

So. Let's say you marry this person you love. You have NO conditions?
She could just do whatever she wants to do?
You have no set standards?
You'll accept ANYTHING she does? Or doesn't do.

Think about it.

Wondering

 

[KevinK]

Well, now hold on, you're mixing in a lot of stuff in the same basket. Unconditional love does not necessarily preclude unrepentance, divine justice, or anything else you've mentioned. God still loves the people who go to hell. That doesn't mean they don't go to hell.

If I marry someone, my love is indeed unconditional. At the least I can say it's the high goal. The relationship most certainly does come with conditions.

The reason we're dragged through life is to achieve this higher love. No-one said it is easy, and indeed may seem all but impossible at first. If it were easy, it probably wouldn't be worth it in a way.

By the way, is the phrase "Think about it" an actual part of your signature?

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, now hold on, you're mixing in a lot of stuff in the same basket. Unconditional love does not necessarily preclude unrepentance, divine justice, or anything else you've mentioned. God still loves the people who go to hell. That doesn't mean they don't go to hell.

If I marry someone, my love is indeed unconditional. At the least I can say it's the high goal. The relationship most certainly does come with conditions.

The reason we're dragged through life is to achieve this higher love. No-one said it is easy, and indeed may seem all but impossible at first. If it were easy, it probably wouldn't be worth it in a way.

By the way, is the phrase "Think about it" an actual part of your signature?

I don't have a signature kevin!
Did I repeat myself??
Sorry.

Interesting. So your LOVE is unconditional, but the RELATIONSHIP has conditions. Never thought of it this way. It seems to me to be the same. If the relationship has conditions, doesn't that mean my love has conditions?

My love for the person is dependent on his meeting those conditions. Let's use a biggie.
I can't stand to accept that my husband has an affair. What if he has one? Maybe I could forgive it.
What if this keeps happening?
I believe it would chip away at my love for him. It would make walls. Eventually, the hurt would kill the love.

What say you?
(instead of "think about it"!)

W

 

[KevinK]

OK, thanks.

My love for the person is dependent on his meeting those conditions.

Well, to be frank, that is simply not unconditional love. By definition, if it was, you would continue to love him. You might very well end the relationship, and you'd probably be perfectly justified for doing so, but your love would continue. If you said that only God could be capable of such truly unconditional love, you might very well be correct. Human love hasn't evolved to that level yet, for the most part. We're still learning.

Someone told me a story involving his young son once. Dad wondered why dogs live so much shorter than humans. The son said that was easy. He said, we're all put here to figure out how to love one another unconditionally, right? The father said right. Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long.

 

[GodsGrace]

OK, thanks.



Well, to be frank, that is simply not unconditional love. By definition, if it was, you would continue to love him. You might very well end the relationship, and you'd probably be justified for doing so, but your love would continue. If you said that only God could be capable of truly unconditional love, you might very well be correct. Human love hasn't evolved to that level yet, for the most part. We're still learning.

Someone told me a story involving his young son once. Dad wondered why dogs live so much shorter than humans. The son said that was easy. He said, we're all put here to figure out how to love one another unconditionally, right? The father said right. Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long.

Hey Kevin,
Dogs have conditions.
They don't love masters who beat them.

Sometimes the damage is so great that not only does the relationship end, but the love goes too.
It's called self-preservation.

Wondering

 

[KevinK]

Hey Kevin,
Dogs have conditions.
They don't love masters who beat them.

Sometimes the damage is so great that not only does the relationship end, but the love goes too.
It's called self-preservation.

Wondering

Well, dogs aren't perfect yet either. They do have to spend an earthly life, and have things to learn as we do.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

 

[Edward]

I don't have a signature kevin!
Did I repeat myself??
Sorry.

Interesting. So your LOVE is unconditional, but the RELATIONSHIP has conditions. Never thought of it this way. It seems to me to be the same. If the relationship has conditions, doesn't that mean my love has conditions?

My love for the person is dependent on his meeting those conditions. Let's use a biggie.
I can't stand to accept that my husband has an affair. What if he has one? Maybe I could forgive it.
What if this keeps happening?
I believe it would chip away at my love for him. It would make walls. Eventually, the hurt would kill the love.

What say you?
(instead of "think about it"!)

W

So in other words, love is a two way street?

 

[Edward]

I just had a thought. (Uh-oh), lol

Everything is electrical, it's all about vibration and frequency. Maybe when an incidence of SM happens, it's really that the guy or girl is at the same frequency that you are?

So her vibrations are positive and match yours. This is not to say that it isn't really your SM but the opposite. She is, or could be if a relationship is pursued, and the couple continues to remain on the same frequency.

This could also explain why we are guilty if we even lust in our heart...because doing that would change our frequency.

 

[Edward]

Sorry, I clumped the phrases. I meant have you physically seen your own soulmate, whether you've entered into a relationship with them or not?

How did I feel? Well, it was the best 5 seconds of my entire life. To describe it, I would use the description unconditional Love. If you've never felt love that was truly unconditional, like that from the Father Himself, or from a child, or perhaps a small animal, you're in for a treat. Even for five seconds, it makes an entire life time of misery worthwhile.

It sure would be fortuitous to run into that girl again. I wonder if you had as much of an effect on her, that she did you?

I bet you did! I mean, no matter how we try to explain it or if we agree or not, is really irrevelent. Something did happen in that parking lot. Something of a spiritual nature.

 

[jasonc]

Electricity operates on a forced frequency if used as a radio signal or microwave signal,radar.HOW MUCH power does the Human body generate as in watts?

HAS New age belief influenced this much?

 

[GodsGrace]

So in other words, love is a two way street?

No. Not always.
Can one person love someone who does not love back?
Is that not real love? Even though it's not returned --

Lucky when two love each other -
The love God made to be shared is a beautiful thing to behold.

Has sin affected even love?

W

 

[Edward]

Electricity operates on a forced frequency if used as a radio signal or microwave signal,radar.HOW MUCH power does the Human body generate as in watts?

HAS New age belief influenced this much?

The average human, at rest, produces around 100 watts of power. This equates to around 2000 kcal of food energy, which is why your recommended daily intake of calories is around 2000 kcal. Over periods of a few minutes (or a few hours in the case of trained athletes), we can comfortably sustain 300-400 watts — and in the case of very short bursts of energy, such as sprinting, some humans can output up to 2,000 watts.

I dunno about the newage stuff? I dont read it.

 

[jasonc]

The average human, at rest, produces around 100 watts of power. This equates to around 2000 kcal of food energy, which is why your recommended daily intake of calories is around 2000 kcal. Over periods of a few minutes (or a few hours in the case of trained athletes), we can comfortably sustain 300-400 watts — and in the case of very short bursts of energy, such as sprinting, some humans can output up to 2,000 watts.

I dunno about the newage stuff? I dont read it.

We aren't dyanamos,and are low power producers.Millivolts,versus the high voltage needed just create spark in a sparking plug,30kv to 150kv.Which has not much of an amperage to it.

New age refers to telepathy,this stuff as you do.