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Striking parallels between Osiris and Jesus!

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Soma-Sight

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¶ Osiris-Dionysus is God made flesh, the savior and “Son of God.â€Â

¶ His father is God and his mother is a mortal virgin.

¶ He is born in a cave or stable on December 25 before three shepherds.

¶ He offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites of baptism.

¶ He miraculously turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony.

¶ He rides triumphantly into town on a donkey while people wave palm leaves to honor him.

¶ He dies at Easter-time as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.

¶ After his death he descends to hell, then on the third day he rises from the dead and ascends to heaven in glory.

¶ His followers await his return as the judge during the Last Days.

¶ His death and resurrection are celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine, which symbolize his body and blood


http://www.aznewage.com/rootsofchristianity.htm
 
Striking parallels between Zoraster and Jesus!

So are these similarities a ploy of Satan to confuse the masses?
 
Obviously.

A counterfeit isn't much good if it doesn't bear some resemblance to the genuine article.

In Christ, Aiki.
 
Soma-Sight said:
¶ Osiris-Dionysus is God made flesh, the savior and “Son of God.â€Â

¶ His father is God and his mother is a mortal virgin.

¶ He is born in a cave or stable on December 25 before three shepherds.

¶ He offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites of baptism.

¶ He miraculously turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony.

¶ He rides triumphantly into town on a donkey while people wave palm leaves to honor him.

¶ He dies at Easter-time as a sacrifice for the sins of the world.

¶ After his death he descends to hell, then on the third day he rises from the dead and ascends to heaven in glory.

¶ His followers await his return as the judge during the Last Days.

¶ His death and resurrection are celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine, which symbolize his body and blood


http://www.aznewage.com/rootsofchristianity.htm
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YESHUA was not born on the 25 of December at all this is pope a thing not a GOD thing.
He was born during Succot because in December it's the rain seasons and no shepherd would be out during the rain seasons because the rain will be pouring down and the fire will go out and in those days you had to have a fire because otherwise the wild animals would attack the herd.
And beside that here in Europa we celebrate Christmas on the 24 of December and in Egypt the Copt celebrate on the 6 of January so which day was Jesus born? You can't have Jesus born on 3 different days can you? And beside that HIS name is YESHUA which means salvation in hebrew so forget about this Osiris-Dionysus he was a fake a fraud so was the other guy you were promoting as JESUS.
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the only SON of GOD coming soon better be ready and repent of your sins
 
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the only SON of GOD coming soon better be ready and repent of your sins
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pardon me I am a bit slow and get confused on some little things...... :)

According to most evangelicals the name of JESUS is required to be saved NOT YESHUA!

THERE IS ONLY ONE NAME THAT MAN IS SAVED BY!!!

Are you sure you have your naming right for the Son of God?

Because if the NAME doesnt matter than obviously the NAME of Krishna, Osiris, and other pagan Saviours with similar life attirbutes and deaths for atonement would be sufficient sacrifices!!!
 
I fail to understand why the other topic of Soma's was closed, and yet another removed; they appear to be merely placing facts as opposed to acting as a proselytizer for Pagan religions.

It's to the best of my knowledge, that it's written that men always knew of "God", and that how humans interpreted it was occasionally, or rather, often erroneous. This appears to delve into that, although as the New Testament was written by men it's quite possible that they adapted stories from other sources to just increase interest. :D
 
Edit: Apologies for the double post, I have a horrible connection.
 
I fail to understand why the other topic of Soma's was closed, and yet another removed; they appear to be merely placing facts as opposed to acting as a proselytizer for Pagan religions.

It's to the best of my knowledge, that it's written that men always knew of "God", and that how humans interpreted it was occasionally, or rather, often erroneous. This appears to delve into that, although as the New Testament was written by men it's quite possible that they adapted stories from other sources to just increase interest.
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You always fear what you cannot understand.....

Since it cannot be explained away (the similarities between Christ and Krishna that is) than it must be deemd unworthy of discussion......

Kind of like how the Catholics "swept the circular earth" conversation under the rug....

Same mentality, different times...
 
Soma-Sight said:
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the only SON of GOD coming soon better be ready and repent of your sins
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pardon me I am a bit slow and get confused on some little things...... :)

According to most evangelicals the name of JESUS is required to be saved NOT YESHUA!

THERE IS ONLY ONE NAME THAT MAN IS SAVED BY!!!

Are you sure you have your naming right for the Son of God?

Because if the NAME doesnt matter than obviously the NAME of Krishna, Osiris, and other pagan Saviours with similar life attirbutes and deaths for atonement would be sufficient sacrifices!!!
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You know the answer to this post and sometimes I wonder why we even bother responding to such things that you throw out there.
 
Soma,

I highly, highly doubt that there are that many parallels between Christ and Osiris (and Krishna for that matter). I think someone is taking liberties in making things up to falsely make it appear that Christianity is derived from pagan religions.

There are some parallels, but that many? No, I don't think so. Not that it makes any difference anyway.
 
Soma-Sight said:
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the only SON of GOD coming soon better be ready and repent of your sins
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pardon me I am a bit slow and get confused on some little things...... :)
Yeah so I have noetics

According to most evangelicals the name of JESUS is required to be saved NOT YESHUA!
Yes but you failed to se that JESUS was born in Israel and guess what they spoke hebrew as they do today and JESUS is YESHUA in hebrew
THERE IS ONLY ONE NAME THAT MAN IS SAVED BY!!!
YES and it is not krishna or osiris on any other pagan idol you have been trying to promote here, and if you know this then why are you posting about krishna and osiris??????????

Are you sure you have your naming right for the Son of God?
Of course I am sure very sure.

Because if the NAME doesnt matter than obviously the NAME of Krishna, Osiris, and other pagan Saviours with similar life attirbutes and deaths for atonement would be sufficient sacrifices!!!
And of course the name matter try to pray to one of this idols and se what happens? And stop wasting our time with your nonsense
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With all due respect, Soma's post about Osiris shows a complete lack of reliable research......

Are there Pagan Origins to Christianity?

There are Muslims and even some so-called "Christians" who claim that there are many pagan influences which shaped the Christian faith and corrupted it. Here we consider how serious these speculations should be taken.

Most of these “pagan origin†theories were very popular around 1900 but have been discarded by NT scholarship long ago. Only some atheist groups, fake "Christians" and Muslims seem to be stuck on it but none of the experts of early Christianity find this acceptable anymore (including those who are not Christians themselves!!)

:-? :) :-? :)
 
Thanks for the links Gary. These are quite informative and useful.

Robert
 
Gary and I disagree on this and have had long dialogs about it. Basically, I see the similarities between the Christian stories and the mythologies of other religions around it. The secular scholar approach support this today, but the religious scholars do not. (Conflict of interest.)

Personally, I think many myths of gods were merged together to form Jesus, with Horus being the primary one. Horus had many versions of his origin as well as age characteristics. Like the Romans took in every religion and related it to their Roman gods, they started to do the same thing with Judiasm and Egyptian mythology.

Religious Tolerance has a great article on this. Here is the beginning quotes to their article:

  • "The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstances of the Divine Sacraments...Thus he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copies certain things of those that be Divine." Tertullian, late 2nd century CE, commenting on the many similarities between Mithraism and Christianity. [/*:m:eacda]
  • "...are our..[Pagan beliefs] to be accounted myths and theirs [the Christians'] believed? What reasons do the Christians give for the distinctiveness of their beliefs? In truth, there is nothing at all unusual about what the Christians believe..." Celsus, late 2nd century CE, commenting on the similarities between Pagan and Christian beliefs. [/*:m:eacda]
  • "He who will not eat of my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made on with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation." An inscription to Mithras which parallels John 6:53-54. [/*:m:eacda]
  • "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" Pope Leo X. [/*:m:eacda]
  • "Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology and almost nothing in all of ancient literature would lead one to believe otherwise. Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it." C. Dennis McKinsey [/*:m:eacda]
  • "There is not a conception associated with Christ that is not common to some or all of the Savior cults of antiquity." J.M. Robertson [/*:m:eacda]

Quath
 
Great posts BB and Gary,

Way to defend the Gospel through logic.

Quath,

Good posts too about possible collective myths being responsible for the ideologies about "who" or "what" Christ is.....
 
Gary said:
Glenn Miller does a bit more research than the RT (Religious Tolerance) folk.

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycatwho2.html

Halfway down his page is the research on the Horus/Jesus "copycat" debate. Scroll down.... read and check his references.
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I took a quick look at it. It seems his defense is that he can not find such references (not that there are none). Another defense is that one story of Horus contradicts the idea of a virgin birth, however, there were many other variations of the Horus myth that he is not checking.

It just doesn't sound like a solid defense to me that Jesus is not copied.

Quath
 
Satan is going to enter the antichrist and make him to appear that he could be the coming Messiah.

Satan has been around from the beginning the religions he founded will all have somethings in common.l Satan knows the bible inside and out. He is a highly intelligent being and is going to do all he can to cast doubt on the scriptures.

A person who has been blinded by Satan will have the proclivity to believe things that cast doubt and dispersions on Christianity. Those who believe will have the Holy Spirit confirming what is written.

I am convinced without the slightest doubt that in the end all will know the truth and Jesus Christ will be vindicated.

So to Gary, Brutus, and the many others who fight the good fight let me give you the comforting word of God.

1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

1 Timothy 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

:D :D :D
 
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