Sympathy for Victims and Victim Groups

[humble soul]

I saw a doco on Africans working in Spain for a pittance. At Greenhouse gardens.
So that supermarkets all over Europe can have cheaper vegetables.
We are the lucky ones. At least I am. We enjoy life at others expense.
Its not fair.
There must be rewards in the next life for such victims who suffer here.

 

[Tessa]

Justice will be done.

 

[Luminous_Rose]

God is always watching.

 

[humble soul]

God is always watching.

Sounds like Big Brother? ?

 

[humble soul]

If we knew the story behind what we buy, we might shop differently.
Food and of course clothing. I can get good T shirts for 10 dollars. How many 12 hour shifts in a monstrous Bangledeshi factory did it take?
Thats life. You suffer so I can enjoy. Or vice versa.

 

[humble soul]

As the British doco narrator said " All because of this passport. Mine allows me to enjoy freedom and minimises suffering."

 

[Who Me]

I saw a doco on Africans working in Spain for a pittance. At Greenhouse gardens.
So that supermarkets all over Europe can have cheaper vegetables.
We are the lucky ones. At least I am. We enjoy life at others expense.
Its not fair.
There must be rewards in the next life for such victims who suffer here.

Not just in Spain, all around the world multinational companies use there clout to get bargains, cheap price s at the expense of the locals and things are made harder because of the closure of so many business due to the virus.
The news last night was doing a report on the affect on different buisiness, they showed fishermen unable to sell their catches and so not earning, of pub/bar tennants closed but still expected to pay rent of 2k a week ! That is frightening.

Justice for workers is important, in the 19th century reformers struggled to get children out of mines, limit the hours they worked in factories, etc etc but now this is happening in the third world.
We all need to chase companies about there use of third world factories etc.

 

[Luminous_Rose]

Sounds like Big Brother? ?

Ha ha, but on the better end of the spectrum, He actually cares and wants what is best for us.

 

[JohnDB]

A person's life does not consist of their possessions.

Unskilled labor is a fact of life. Jesus said that we will always have the poor amongst us.

Just because someone works a low skill job doesn't mean that they are undeserving of respect. Circumstances may not even be their fault.
And very often those low paying, low skill jobs are wanted and needed.
I've taken them when there was nothing else available in the area for a while. Then moved on when better jobs became available.

It's not exploitation. So long as people are receiving their wages...
Child labor?
That's usually a parental/government matter and why they are going to allow generational poverty.

Someone has to pick lettuce, tomatoes and saffron. Otherwise it won't get done.

Cheaper labor is a great resource...and those who are the cheap labor can use the work as an opportunity to advance the next generation. Many have...but children and teenagers have issues paying attention in school and get distracted by a million other things.

 

[humble soul]

I wouldnt trade places with them.

 

[humble soul]

i clean schools for a living. But its barely a living. i supplement with retirement superannuation funds. also it helps that my wife works and we own the house.
ok but 90% of my colleagues are from Asia on student visas. Phillipines, Nepal, Bhutan etcetera ...... and more than half my age mind you.
we receive a good hourly rate. 26 dollars an hour. If you get enough hours, you can make a reasonable living. But we get unreliable hours as we are casual. Added to that was covid 19. But looks like we have come out of that already.
Actually the students i work with are often highly educated in their own country..rngineers and so on. they must have had some wealth to come here in the first place. now they are stuck in Oz for a while.
anyway, only a small percentage of Aussies work at our company. most are bosses.
i dont think our boss exploits us. the pay is good. the unreliable hours makes us appreciative of being given extra hours. But without these foreign students, would he have a viable workforce? in covid maybe. but not in normal times.

 

[humble soul]

Has anyone read Karl Marx btw?
His ideas were dangerous and contributed to some awful suffering in Communist countries. Ironically he was trying to reduce the suffering of the proletariat.
But I heard not all his ideas were bad.

 

[Compassion544]

I saw a doco on Africans working in Spain for a pittance. At Greenhouse gardens.
So that supermarkets all over Europe can have cheaper vegetables.
We are the lucky ones. At least I am. We enjoy life at others expense.
Its not fair.
There must be rewards in the next life for such victims who suffer here.

You have a very compassionate heart. Thank you for posting this.I know that you are a bright light in this world because you care about the least of these that Jesus loves. Your post inspires me because of your heart to see these people have improvement in their quality of living, in this life and in Eternity.

 

[Corn Pop]

Blessings to the nurse who tried to ring my friend and left a message to see how his young daughter who is like 2yo is going after being discharged from hospital after some muppet hit her causing injuries and then just took off saying its not his problem.

 

[daninthelionsden]

I like subscribing to The Voice of the Martyrs, it helps to keep things real about how bad others have it. It's day to day life or death for so many.

 

[Compassion544]

I like subscribing to The Voice of the Martyrs, it helps to keep things real about how bad others have it. It's day to day life or death for so many.

I suscribe to that magazine also! I think that is great that you care so much about the persecuted Church. They are our family. We can be such a blessing by praying for them and staying informed about what is going on in other parts of the world. This month I was reading about the people of Darfur in Sudan. There was a great article in the magazine. The more people care and pray, the more people around the world will overcome severe persecution and also be protected from it as much as is possible. Awareness is the first step to helping the poor and the persecuted. Many people are totally clueless about the suffering that other people in the Church of Jesus Christ are going through around the world.

 

[jasonc]

A person's life does not consist of their possessions.

Unskilled labor is a fact of life. Jesus said that we will always have the poor amongst us.

Just because someone works a low skill job doesn't mean that they are undeserving of respect. Circumstances may not even be their fault.
And very often those low paying, low skill jobs are wanted and needed.
I've taken them when there was nothing else available in the area for a while. Then moved on when better jobs became available.

It's not exploitation. So long as people are receiving their wages...
Child labor?
That's usually a parental/government matter and why they are going to allow generational poverty.

Someone has to pick lettuce, tomatoes and saffron. Otherwise it won't get done.

Cheaper labor is a great resource...and those who are the cheap labor can use the work as an opportunity to advance the next generation. Many have...but children and teenagers have issues paying attention in school and get distracted by a million other things.

plenty locallymy dad did it. my wife and her parents and sibling as well picked and graded oranges and grapefruit. my father in law and his sibling grew up in a grove worker house that was built pre 1900 and still stands albeit moved. it had neither running water or electric in his youth. it does now. I have a photo of him and his siblings with a well and out house in the background and bathtub on the outside. this is in the 1940s

 

[humble soul]

The doco I saw on africans working in greenhouse gardens. it showed their accommodation. like 15 into this small dormitory and focussed on the shabby kitchen. The sink was coming apart from the wall. Tiny gas stove for all those workers. Dirty looking pans and plates. Cracks, stains...I mean I couldn't stand just the accomodation let alone the work.

 

[Compassion544]

We have the hope that Jesus will make it better for them all one day.?