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Talking to our kids about drugs

Knotical

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Meh, just another article about a "study". I think the article is confusing the end result and the correlation. For instance, sure a kid might be less likely to try drugs if the parent flat out says the drugs are bad. The problem though is that nothing is learned or anything really there to make the situation real for the teenager. Its the same problem I have had with public and some private education. The actual critical thinking aspect is removed from the equation and so is the pathos aspect.

Also the study doesn't tell us which drugs the kids are more likely to take. This means the article is making a very common mistake of treating all drugs the same when almost all drugs differ in what exactly they do to the nervous system or other system. Depressants are different from barbiturates for example.

If a parent is going to lament about how awesome there experience was on the drug of their choice, then it probably won't help their case. If its to explain the negative aspects or how it effects others, then its a great way to relate to the teen or kid.

Teaching and relating are very close and if we have to rely on Black and White examples and avoiding telling children and teens information, it can cause trust issues. Sometimes its unavoidable, but we really need to be careful.
 
Thankfully I have not had a past that involved major drug use, just smoking cigarettes or pipe, and casual drinking of alcoholic beverages, but for those who do, do you agree with this assessment:http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/26/just-say-no-to-talking-about-your-own-drug-use-with-your-kids/

In a nutshell this article is saying it is a bad idea to share about a parents drug use with their children as it will actually promote drug use instead of discourage it.

Thoughts?

I would agree, it gives them a free pass of trying them and saying (you did it!)
 
I would agree, it gives them a free pass of trying them and saying (you did it!)
The the parent can own up to their past, admit that they made mistakes, and then share experience on how to either get over it or adress the problem. Kids find excuses to be rebellious. They learn from our example and do listen. Even when they are doing things wrong, its more about proving themselves. The main thing we need to adress is not how to tell kids about drugs, but why would they involve themselves in the situation to begin with?
 
most kids get involved in drugs for the sheer reason they didn't have anything else going on, and the people they hung around have alot to do with it
 
most kids get involved in drugs for the sheer reason they didn't have anything else going on, and the people they hung around have alot to do with it
Agreed, that is wahy I think that its more important to get kids involved with a hobby or other forms of escapism that can help them out when there is nothing to do. The whole friends aspect is tricky because its hard to tell who is actually doing drugs. Practically every click in my school had kids that did drugs or drank at a young age. Usually for different reasons though.
 
Thankfully I have not had a past that involved major drug use, just smoking cigarettes or pipe, and casual drinking of alcoholic beverages, but for those who do, do you agree with this assessment:http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/26/just-say-no-to-talking-about-your-own-drug-use-with-your-kids/

In a nutshell this article is saying it is a bad idea to share about a parents drug use with their children as it will actually promote drug use instead of discourage it.

Thoughts?

I think we should be honest with our kids if we've used drugs. My history of drug use is nothing more than experimenting with pot a couple of times when I was in my 20s, and it was never anything that appealed to me It's easy enough to explain why drugs are not good for you, and if you've used drugs heavily in the past, your kids almost certainly know about it before you get around to telling them. They're pretty darn sharp, and lying to them is never a good idea.
 
In a nutshell this article is saying it is a bad idea to share about a parents drug use with their children as it will actually promote drug use instead of discourage it.

Thoughts?
I disagree. In fact, I've prepared a brief seminar for parents on how to talk to their kids about drugs. I've learn a lot in my years as an alcohol/'drug/compulsive gambling counselor. Essentially, I teach that having "the talk" about drugs, alcohol and tobacco (and I'm saying "include gambling" in that mix as well) is a waste of time. Teens don't have a long attention span, and they won't sit through a half hour or hour long lecture about these vices. In fact, if you've waited until they are teens to talk about drugs, alcohol, tobacco and gambling, you've waited about ten years too long.

It doesn't matter whether you talk about your own experiences or not. The important thing is that you talk, period. And you should start at a young age. Five and six isn't too young to start the drug/alcohol/etc. education of your children. But again, not "the talk.' Instead make casual references, using opportunities that arise in everyday events. At that age, just a mere mention in passing during a beer commercial during a football game will do: "You know, our family doesn't believe that's such a good idea." When the child asks why, it gives you a chance to say something that reinforces a positive abstinence message. But not too long a statement. Thirty seconds is plenty.

As they grow older -- eight or nine -- take opportunities such as driving by a police officer involved in a traffic stop to ask if the child might have any ideas as to why that is going on. Chances are they'll say "speeding" or some other such thing. You can mention, "or maybe the driver was drinking." Then you can explain why that's a bad idea.

By the time they are teens, parents can have taken hundreds of such opportunities to take advantage of teachable moments. Perhaps when they are that age, you might ask them their opinion of the most recent steroid scandal, or events such as the Jovan Belcher murder of his girlfriend at their home and his own suicide at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City after a night of drinking and confrontation with his girlfriend after both had been out separately that night. An exchange of ideas is always a good thing in relationship to establishing how your teen is thinking.

So don't worry about sharing your own experiences, as long as you don't glamorize them, and be sure to play up the negative aspects of the behavior. A strong "I was wrong, please don't make the mistakes I made" message should accompany this disclosure. Your kids will respect you for it.
 
I guess I can understand both sides of this discussion. With my own children I did share about my past. I felt it added validity to my objecting to the use of drug, alcohol, and sex. It seems to make more sense to say "No" when I can back it up with my own experience rather than the phrase, "Because I said so." How many of us obeyed our parents because they said so?

So far to my knowledge, both of our daughters remain drug and alcohol free and only one has been sexually active, although she did wait until she left home. The other one is still a junior in high school so the jury's still out.
 
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