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Tammy Faye Messner in Hospice for Cancer

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Tammy Faye Messner in Hospice for Cancer

July 6th, 2007 @ 2:04pm
by Bob McClay/KTAR

The son of a former televangelist says things aren't looking good for his mother.

Jay Bakker is the son of former PTL Club host Jim Bakker.

His mother, Tammy Faye Messner, is battling cancer.

"She's not very well. She's got stage four cancer. She's living in Kansas City now. She's 60 pounds and started hospice. It's been a real tough year for her and the whole family actually," he said.

Bakker is asking for prayers for his mom.

His dad spent time in prison following a scandal involving the PTL Club ministry.

Jim Bakker is now living in Kansas City and is back on the air with a local TV show.

Jay Bakker now pastors a church in New York City.

He was in the Valley on Friday attending a Metropolitan Community Church Convention in Scottsdale.
 
Lewis W said:
Tammy Faye Messner in Hospice for Cancer

July 6th, 2007 @ 2:04pm
by Bob McClay/KTAR

The son of a former televangelist says things aren't looking good for his mother.

Jay Bakker is the son of former PTL Club host Jim Bakker.

His mother, Tammy Faye Messner, is battling cancer.

"She's not very well. She's got stage four cancer. She's living in Kansas City now. She's 60 pounds and started hospice. It's been a real tough year for her and the whole family actually," he said.

Bakker is asking for prayers for his mom.

His dad spent time in prison following a scandal involving the PTL Club ministry.

Jim Bakker is now living in Kansas City and is back on the air with a local TV show.

Jay Bakker now pastors a church in New York City.

He was in the Valley on Friday attending a Metropolitan Community Church Convention in Scottsdale.
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I took care of my father-in-law for almost 5 years (colostomy and all) before he passed away at almost 90 years of age. I learned that once a person was put into hospice (as he eventually was with visiting nurses) that one has basically 6 months to live maximum doctors say (ironically, my father-in-law stretched that out to the limit and lived 6 months to the very day). It will take a miracle of God to reverse that.

How old is Tammy Faye BTW?
 
Lewis W said:
Tamara "Tammy" Faye LaValley Bakker Messner (born March 7, 1942
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Thanks.

She's in her mid 60's then. The bible talks of "three score and ten". Anything after that is borrowed time IMO. 65 is a tad early but not that much. That's a shame nevertheless.
 
I saw her on TBN a little over a year ago' and she was just the sweetest person that you would ever want to meet. God had dealt with her cancer before and put it into remission. But it has returned' and is taking her over.

Cancer

Tammy Faye first battled with cancer in 1996, when she was diagnosed with colon cancer. She successfully treated the cancer and was quickly told that the cancer was in remission.[5]

On March 19, 2004, Tammy Faye made an emotional appearance on Larry King Live and announced that she had inoperable lung cancer and would soon begin chemotherapy.[6] She continued chemotherapy throughout mid-2004. Then, on November 30, 2004, also on Larry King Live, she announced that she was cancer free once again. She described details of her chemotherapy and continued to appear regularly on King's show. It was on his program again that she announced, on July 20, 2005, that her cancer had returned.[7]

On March 13, 2006, just six days after her 64th birthday, she appeared again on Larry King Live and stated that she was continuing to suffer from lung cancer, which had now reached stage 4, and was continuing treatment for it. She also mentioned having difficulty swallowing food, suffering panic attacks, and substantial weight loss. As Messner's health continued to worsen, a "Talk of the Town" article in the October 2, 2006 issue of The New Yorker stated that she was dying in hospice care, and a December 10, 2006 article in Walter Scott's column in Parade reported her son Jay was "at a North Carolina hospice with his mom, [who is] gravely ill with colon cancer".[8]

Tammy Faye was a guest by phone on Larry King Live on December 15, 2006 and stated that she was receiving hospice care in her home. Her son, Jay Bakker, revealed that his mother's weight was down to 68 pounds.[9] Tammy Faye appeared in her son Jay's documentary series, One Punk Under God, where she and Jay talked about her cancer treatments. In one episode, Tammy Faye required the use of oxygen in order to talk.

On May 8, 2007, she issued a statement on her website saying that all treatments to cure her cancer had stopped, but urged her fans to continue to pray for her. She revealed at this point that her weight was down to 65 pounds.[10] The story was reported on NBC's The Today Show on May 11, and on June 1, Tammy stated in an interview with Entertainment Tonight that her weight was 62 pound
 
My preacher and his wife used to be involved in the ministry many years ago with Tammy. In fact, my preachers wife used to baby sit Tammy's kids in the church nursery.

The preachers wife received an email from them about a month ago filling them in on Tammy's condition and it's not been good. Tammy is in good spirits though and is ready to go be with the Lord.
 
God is with Tammy' she has the Spirit of the Lord' you can just tell' by the way she talks and walks. She is just the sweetest person.
 
I was dining at a McD's tonight and they had CNN on the TV. Tammy Faye was on with Larry King. I couldn't hear what they were saying, but I could see them. At first I was kind of shocked at how 'bad' she looked. It took me a moment to realize that it was her. But then, as I watched her and Larry, just seeing her smile and the light in her eyes, how she radiated peace and even happiness and the smiles that she brought to Larry, I thought that truly I've never seen her more beautiful.
 
Yes I saw some of that interview today' she is about 65 pounds and she is very sick. But she is still giving God the glory' I feel bad for her, but it won't be long now' she will not have to suffer that much longer.
 
I find it disturbing' that not many on this board said anything about Tammy' she is a loving and caring women of God. Who has had a few kinks in her past just like all of us. Let me see you cast the first stone. Seeing her looking like she does now hurt me. But for the rest of you where is the love ? Like the love that she has for you. I am just letting out how I feel' thats all. But I do feel that at times there is a lack of sympathy from the members of this board. And I know that I am right. Some may not like what I just said' but I said it. Because thats the way I feel from seeing this go down on this board a few times before' from self serving and only self serving members' and it is only to who is offended by this post' that it belongs to. I don't want to step on anyones toes' but' OH WELL. Any time that a animal topic can get more looks' even though I am a animal lover. Tammy deserves more.
 
Hi all


Lewis, I'd never heard of Tammy till I saw this thread, having asked God to show me where this timely CT article would go best, but my reading of folks' comments saw expression of appreciation of her: I'm praying for you, bro', as I sense cancer hits a raw nerve, yes? Do read this, anyone who feels that way:-


Cancer's Unexpected Blessings


When you enter the Valley of the Shadow of Death, things change.
Tony Snow


Commentator and broadcaster Tony Snow announced that he had colon cancer in 2005. Following surgery and chemo-therapy, Snow joined the Bush administration in April 2006 as press secretary.


Unfortunately, on March 23 Snow, 51, a husband and father of three, announced that the cancer had recurred, with tumors found in his abdomenâ€â€leading to surgery in April, followed by more chemotherapy. Snow went back to work in the White House Briefing Room on May 30. CT asked Snow what spiritual lessons he has been learning through the ordeal.


Blessings arrive in unexpected packagesâ€â€in my case, cancer.

Those of us with potentially fatal diseasesâ€â€and there are millions in America todayâ€â€find ourselves in the odd position of coping with our mortality while trying to fathom God's will. Although it would be the height of presumption to declare with confidence What It All Means, Scripture provides powerful hints and consolations.

The first is that we shouldn't spend too much time trying to answer the why questions: Why me? Why must people suffer? Why can't someone else get sick? We can't answer such things, and the questions themselves often are designed more to express our anguish than to solicit an answer.

I don't know why I have cancer, and I don't much care. It is what it isâ€â€a plain and indisputable fact. Yet even while staring into a mirror darkly, great and stunning truths begin to take shape. Our maladies define a central feature of our existence: We are fallen. We are imperfect. Our bodies give out.

But despite thisâ€â€because of itâ€â€God offers the possibility of salvation and grace. We don't know how the narrative of our lives will end, but we get to choose how to use the interval between now and the moment we meet our Creator face-to-face.

Second, we need to get past the anxiety. The mere thought of dying can send adrenaline flooding through your system. A dizzy, unfocused panic seizes you. Your heart thumps; your head swims. You think of nothingness and swoon. You fear partings; you worry about the impact on family and friends.

You fidget and get nowhere.

To regain footing, remember that we were born not into death, but into lifeâ€â€and that the journey continues after we have finished our days on this earth...



http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... 25.30.html


Any readers who have cancer, or friends/family with it, are recommended to find God's comfort in James 1:2-4, 2 Corinthians 1:2-4 & 2 Peter 1:2-4


God bless!


Ian
 
James 1:2-4 (New International Version)

Trials and Temptations

2Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.

4Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.


2 Corinthians 1:2-4 (New International Version)


2Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The God of All Comfort

3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God.


2 Peter 1:2-4 (New International Version)


2Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.

Making One's Calling and Election Sure

3His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

God bless!

Ian
 
Lewis W said:
I find it disturbing' that not many on this board said anything about Tammy
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Yes, I understand where you're coming from.
Most times there's not a lot to say in these circumstances. We each may feel the heartbreak and not post our sadness. In like kind there have been threads announcing the death of other prominent figures of the Christian community that we do indeed grieve but prefer not to post that grief or condolence. It's somewhat personal in a lot of respects and sadness isn't easy to talk about much less post.

Tammy past away yesterday. May she have her rest in His rest and peace in Him for eternity.
I just don't have a lot to say right now Lewis. :sad
 
Lewis W said:
I find it disturbing' that not many on this board said anything about Tammy' she is a loving and caring women of God. Who has had a few kinks in her past just like all of us. Let me see you cast the first stone. Seeing her looking like she does now hurt me. But for the rest of you where is the love ? Like the love that she has for you. I am just letting out how I feel' thats all. But I do feel that at times there is a lack of sympathy from the members of this board. And I know that I am right. Some may not like what I just said' but I said it. Because thats the way I feel from seeing this go down on this board a few times before' from self serving and only self serving members' and it is only to who is offended by this post' that it belongs to. I don't want to step on anyones toes' but' OH WELL. Any time that a animal topic can get more looks' even though I am a animal lover. Tammy deserves more.
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I did not know Tammy as I never watched PTL. I did not make a judgment on Jimmy and Tammy Baker when they were in deep do dah day back when. I can not say whether Tammy was a good person or a bad person. I did not follow her.

You, Lewis, I know from this forum and my condolences go out to you.

God bless,
Michael
 
Potluck said:
Yes, I understand where you're coming from.
Most times there's not a lot to say in these circumstances. We each may feel the heartbreak and not post our sadness. In like kind there have been threads announcing the death of other prominent figures of the Christian community that we do indeed grieve but prefer not to post that grief or condolence. It's somewhat personal in a lot of respects and sadness isn't easy to talk about much less post.

Tammy past away yesterday. May she have her rest in His rest and peace in Him for eternity.
I just don't have a lot to say right now Lewis. :sad
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Lewis, this is my sentiments as well. I have come to grips over death several years ago. I grieve, but don't always find the the right words of expression.

Since I firmly believe the Lord gives and takes away, I actually find comfort in knowing that a fellow believer who has died is on their way home. My heart is for those who are not believers yet and I ask that God have mercy on the souls of those who have died in unbelief.
 
Sorry guy's about getting a little angry. She stayed sweet up until the end. She was not afraid to die.
 
Bless you Lewis - & all who knew her

Review: The Eyes of Tammy Faye

"She has unintentionally become an ambassador of God's grace to a community that has received too few envoys from evangelicalism."
By Steve Rabey


The Eyes of Tammy Faye

Lions Gate Films
Directed by Randy Barbato and Fenton Bailey

Just when everyone thought Tammy Faye Bakker had already used up more than a lifetime's allotment of surprising about-faces, she has returned to the limelight. In January she was feted at the Sundance Film Festival, where The Eyes of Tammy Faye, a documentary about her trials and tribulations, premiered to a wildly enthusiastic reception...


http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... 32.85.html


Singing Tammy Faye's Song

We're all "made out of the same old dirt."

David Neff

On Sunday mornings, I usually don't read in the newspapers about the hymns we're going to sing. This Sunday was an exception.

Tammy Faye Messner, better known by her first married name as Tammy Faye Bakker, died Friday. And The New York Times recalled this little detail from her life:

Mr. Bakker’s wife vowed to stand by her man. When he was found guilty of fraud and conspiracy, she appeared at a news conference and, in tears, sang, “On Christ the solid rock I stand/All other ground is sinking sand.â€Â

Who knows what Tammy Faye meant in that moment, but the "Man" she sang about standing on was Jesus, not Jim. I had selected that hymn for Sunday's worship service because the Gospel lesson included Jesus' admonition to Martha of Bethany that there was "only one thing that was necessary." Edward Mote's 1834 hymn seemed like a good way to underscore that truth...


http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/ - item 2


'Grace & peace to you from our Lord & Saviour, Jesus Christ'


Ian
 
Resurrecting the Public Death
Tammy Faye reminded us how to die.
Rob Moll | posted 7/27/2007 08:53AM


I paid little attention to Tammy Faye Bakker during her PTL days. But I gave her close scrutiny the day before she died, when she appeared on Larry King Live. Her eyes, which formerly sparkled with an indomitable spirit, had faded. Tammy Faye's mascara, her trademark even when it ran with tears down her cheeks, foreshadowed her decay. Tammy Faye's skin hung off her cheekbones.

I saw defiance and a Christlike countercultural challenge behind her eyelashes. She lived publicly, and she died publicly. Tammy Faye was unafraid to show us the ravages of cancer and remind us of the decay that was brought into the world through sin. Tammy Faye reminded us that dignity comes from the character we display in the circumstances God allows for us, whether withered by cancer or in the peak of health.

After her televised farewell, how she died became as much a part of her story as her PTL days. I was proud to call her a sister in Christ...


http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... -52.0.html

See also

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... ml#related

God bless!

Ian
 
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