Bible Study The 19,s

[Redwords lou]

Does any one else see very familiar actions in genesis 19 and Judges 19. Especially daughters being offered to the masses. What does it all mean.? Just throwing it out ther

 

[Truthfrees]

Does any one else see very familiar actions in genesis 19 and Judges 19. Especially daughters being offered to the masses. What does it all mean.? Just throwing it out ther

very distressing - both terrible stories of homosexual rape gangs and offering daughters/concubine to appease the gang - don't know what to think about this - godless people on all sides imo -

when i read the story about the concubine i thought the woman was right to leave the levite - too bad he came to get her back - but he obviously never loved her by the way he treated her -

i guess when there is no law and order people do really unbelievably ungodly things

imo these stories tell how depraved regular people are - whereas seeking God causes us to be in the right place at the right time and have awesome testimonies of God's intervention

all of these characters - lot - the levite - the homosexual gangs - were not God seekers - their life certainly didn't reveal any kind of spiritual purity

 

[Who Me]

Daughters being offered to the masses.

When a society rejects Gods ways then anything goes, its what you can see in genesis 19 and in todays society.

 

[Redwords lou]

I feel the same way ,do the woman have to be symbolic? like innocence? it is just a ponder. I have to jump on my show, thanks guys! good points indeed.

 

[Truthfrees]

I feel the same way ,do the woman have to be symbolic? like innocence? it is just a ponder. I have to jump on my show, thanks guys! good points indeed.

imo women and children are the precious ones we are to protect - obviously in both 19's no one was protecting the women - and by extension that would mean children too - because how old were the daughters? - probably teenagers still or younger - girls were given in marriage as teenagers in that day so if they were still at home it was probably because they were too young to be married

 

[Redwords lou]

very distressing - both terrible stories of homosexual rape gangs and offering daughters/concubine to appease the gang - don't know what to think about this - godless people on all sides imo -

when i read the story about the concubine i thought the woman was right to leave the levite - too bad he came to get her back - but he obviously never loved her by the way he treated her -

i guess when there is no law and order people do really unbelievably ungodly things

imo these stories tell how depraved regular people are - whereas seeking God causes us to be in the right place at the right time and have awesome testimonies of God's intervention

all of these characters - lot - the levite - the homosexual gangs - were not God seekers - their life certainly didn't reveal any kind of spiritual purity

What is the desire to sacrifice young virgins it seems counterproductive to send them out, to not hold value to their virtue. It os baffling me

 

[Truthfrees]

What is the desire to sacrifice young virgins it seems counterproductive to send them out, to not hold value to their virtue. It os baffling me

amen - i think it is a symptom of serious ungodliness to devalue life - lack of love and compassion

 

[for_his_glory]

In Genesis we see these men as being probably bisexual, which is an abomination to God, Lev 18:22, wanting to have sexual intercourse with these two men not knowing they were angels as those from Sodom and Gomorrah lived immoral sinful lives as they lived as they pleased. Scripture does not say why Lot offered his two daughters, but it could have been to save the dignity of his two quest as they were considered more important. Tradition says visitors were placed above even the family as their well being came first. Living in Sodom made Lot complacent with his surroundings and compromised his faith and testimony of God.

In Judges 19 the Benjaminite city of Gibeah was considered another Sodom in it's depravity. There was no king to rule over them in that time and the tribe of Dan and Ephraim fell to idol worship and allowed God to be removed from them, Judges 18:30; 1 Kings12:25-33; Hosea 5:9, 11;Psalms 78:9-17, 65-67.

We read that a Levite from Ephraim who traveled to Bethlehem to bring his adulterous concubine back home and on their way back they stopped off at Gibeah. She was actually the wife of this Levite man, but a concubine to many others she prostituted herself to other men. No one would take them in except an elderly Ephraimite who lived in Gibeah. The same thing happens to them like it did with Lot that the men in that town wanted this Levite man and have sex with him. This elderly man, like Lot, told them do not so wickedly with the Levite and offered up both his daughter and the wife of the Levite, but they only took the wife/concubine and let the daughter alone. To make things even worse the Levite cut up his wife in twelve pieces and distributed them throughout Israel causing a war that almost wiped out the Benjamites

 

[Redwords lou]

In Genesis we see these men as being probably bisexual, which is an abomination to God, Lev 18:22, wanting to have sexual intercourse with these two men not knowing they were angels as those from Sodom and Gomorrah lived immoral sinful lives as they lived as they pleased. Scripture does not say why Lot offered his two daughters, but it could have been to save the dignity of his two quest as they were considered more important. Tradition says visitors were placed above even the family as their well being came first. Living in Sodom made Lot complacent with his surroundings and compromised his faith and testimony of God.

In Judges 19 the Benjaminite city of Gibeah was considered another Sodom in it's depravity. There was no king to rule over them in that time and the tribe of Dan and Ephraim fell to idol worship and allowed God to be removed from them, Judges 18:30; 1 Kings12:25-33; Hosea 5:9, 11;Psalms 78:9-17, 65-67.

We read that a Levite from Ephraim who traveled to Bethlehem to bring his adulterous concubine back home and on their way back they stopped off at Gibeah. She was actually the wife of this Levite man, but a concubine to many others she prostituted herself to other men. No one would take them in except an elderly Ephraimite who lived in Gibeah. The same thing happens to them like it did with Lot that the men in that town wanted this Levite man and have sex with him. This elderly man, like Lot, told them do not so wickedly with the Levite and offered up both his daughter and the wife of the Levite, but they only took the wife/concubine and let the daughter alone. To make things even worse the Levite cut up his wife in twelve pieces and distributed them throughout Israel causing a war that almost wiped out the Benjamites

The hospitality/ tradition part is what I was missing. That would explain it. Good deal man! Thanks for your post