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noblej6
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Daniel 9:1 shows us when Daniel says a oprayer to ask forgiveness for Jerusalem. Jerusalem had just been destroyed and Daniel was praying about that.
As near as I can find out the first year of this Darius would be 539BC.
As Daniel finishes this prayer the angel comes to him and well, this is how Daniel tells it.........,
20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy hill- 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice.
Then Gabriel goes on to say........
22 He instructed me and said to me, "Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you began to pray, an answer was given, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the message and understand the vision:
...CONSIDER the message and understand the vision.....
The message is this:
24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.
This isn't a vision it is an explanation in answer to the prayer that Daniel has just made concerning Jerusalem and it's people.
Heres the start of the vision.....
25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing.
seven 'sevens' and 62 'sevens' are 69 sevens, where is this 70th week that they talk about?
It isn't from the seventy sevens of verse 24 because that is the message and has nothing to do with the decree being issued to rebuild the temple.
Next we have this .....
The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
There Daniel is being told of a ruler who will come and destroy the city and the temple.
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.'
Here this ruler sets up some kind of a covenant, not Jesus setting it up, but the ruler who will come to destroy the city and the temple.
In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
This isn't Jesus putting an end to the sacrifice, it is the ruler who come to destroy the city and the temple where the sacrifices were given.
Where is the 70th week?
noblej6
Daniel 9:1 shows us when Daniel says a oprayer to ask forgiveness for Jerusalem. Jerusalem had just been destroyed and Daniel was praying about that.
As near as I can find out the first year of this Darius would be 539BC.
As Daniel finishes this prayer the angel comes to him and well, this is how Daniel tells it.........,
20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy hill- 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice.
Then Gabriel goes on to say........
22 He instructed me and said to me, "Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you began to pray, an answer was given, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the message and understand the vision:
...CONSIDER the message and understand the vision.....
The message is this:
24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.
This isn't a vision it is an explanation in answer to the prayer that Daniel has just made concerning Jerusalem and it's people.
Heres the start of the vision.....
25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing.
seven 'sevens' and 62 'sevens' are 69 sevens, where is this 70th week that they talk about?
It isn't from the seventy sevens of verse 24 because that is the message and has nothing to do with the decree being issued to rebuild the temple.
Next we have this .....
The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
There Daniel is being told of a ruler who will come and destroy the city and the temple.
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.'
Here this ruler sets up some kind of a covenant, not Jesus setting it up, but the ruler who will come to destroy the city and the temple.
In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
This isn't Jesus putting an end to the sacrifice, it is the ruler who come to destroy the city and the temple where the sacrifices were given.
Where is the 70th week?
noblej6