The abomonation of desolation

[beloved57]

Matt 24:

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Just what is Jesus talking about here ? When ye shall see the abomonation of desolation spoken by daniel ?

First of all what kind of seeing is Jesus talking about ? The word see is the word eidon and it means:

) to see

a) to perceive with the eyes

b) to perceive by any of the senses

c) to perceive, notice, discern, discover

d) to see

1) i.e. to turn the eyes, the mind, the attention to anything



The seeing here is more of a perception with the mind..The same word is used in Jn 3:

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

This is a perception a percieving.. so right away we should understand that Jesus has born again ones in mind, who when they see or percieve the AOD..time is short..and its crucial.

Lets look at daniel to what the redeemer refers to !



Dan 9:

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

12:

11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Paul speaks or writes on this very same thing but this is how he presents it 2 thess 2:

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Yes in vs 4 this is the abomination of desolation that daniel prophesied and which christ spoke of and what paul here writes about..



This is no other than The Satan the devil having taken over the churches [ The Temple] representing where God should dwell, and where the word of God should be Honored..however because The Holy Ghost, the one restraining, has been taken out the way, this is satans green light to take control of proffessing christianity, and erect, he and his demons all types of false doctrines in the church..Lets look at 2 tim 4:

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

1 tim 4:

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

So this is what Jesus is referring to, when the elect see this abomination of desolation. they should flee.. flee what ? Lets look at rev 18:

4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Gods people the born again ones, will be given eyes to see and will be effectually called out of organized false religon which has been taken over by and now ruled by Satan.. The true gospel of Jesus christ is no longer honored in these churches.. the witness of the gospel is outside of the church..

Notice what Jesus says matt 24:

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Is not paul saying the same ?

2 thess 2:

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,



Its the same thing..

We are in this time now, and those who are in organized religon, no matter what denomination, whatever type baptist, methodist, pentecostal, even the sovereign grace churches, the reformed churches old predestinarian baptist, it doesn t matter, if you are in these churches come out if you belong to God..As I said, the true gospel is no longer preached, and where there is sembelence of it, its compromised for the sake of human tradition..

God is calling, His true people out of false religon and the false churches.. for His coming is at the door..

 

[happiejack00]

Where shall we come out too?? I mean what do you want us to do. I think every true chrisitan wants to be doing the correct and right thing. I think every true christian wants to be going to the correct church but again where to come out too??

Give me a direct answer please no around about Laura's house stuff.

 

[lenbache]

Matt 24:

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Just what is Jesus talking about here ? When ye shall see the abomonation of desolation spoken by daniel ?

First of all what kind of seeing is Jesus talking about ? The word see is the word eidon and it means:

) to see

a) to perceive with the eyes

b) to perceive by any of the senses

c) to perceive, notice, discern, discover

d) to see

1) i.e. to turn the eyes, the mind, the attention to anything



The seeing here is more of a perception with the mind..The same word is used in Jn 3:

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

This is a perception a percieving.. so right away we should understand that Jesus has born again ones in mind, who when they see or percieve the AOD..time is short..and its crucial.

Lets look at daniel to what the redeemer refers to !



Dan 9:

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

12:

11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Paul speaks or writes on this very same thing but this is how he presents it 2 thess 2:

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Yes in vs 4 this is the abomination of desolation that daniel prophesied and which christ spoke of and what paul here writes about..



This is no other than The Satan the devil having taken over the churches [ The Temple] representing where God should dwell, and where the word of God should be Honored..however because The Holy Ghost, the one restraining, has been taken out the way, this is satans green light to take control of proffessing christianity, and erect, he and his demons all types of false doctrines in the church..Lets look at 2 tim 4:

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

1 tim 4:

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

So this is what Jesus is referring to, when the elect see this abomination of desolation. they should flee.. flee what ? Lets look at rev 18:

4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Gods people the born again ones, will be given eyes to see and will be effectually called out of organized false religon which has been taken over by and now ruled by Satan.. The true gospel of Jesus christ is no longer honored in these churches.. the witness of the gospel is outside of the church..

Notice what Jesus says matt 24:

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give *bleep* in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Is not paul saying the same ?

2 thess 2:

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,



Its the same thing..

We are in this time now, and those who are in organized religon, no matter what denomination, whatever type baptist, methodist, pentecostal, even the sovereign grace churches, the reformed churches old predestinarian baptist, it doesn t matter, if you are in these churches come out if you belong to God..As I said, the true gospel is no longer preached, and where there is sembelence of it, its compromised for the sake of human tradition..

God is calling, His true people out of false religon and the false churches.. for His coming is at the door..

You MUST keep the focus, people!!
You must always keep in mind WHO these scriptures are referring to.
They are referring to BABYLON THE GREAT, ie AMERICA; the nation of whose European host people (the ten kings) falls away, and exalts that man of lawlessness (the ten horns).

The "abomination of desolation" or, the "abomination that makes desolate" is simply a reference to, the esculation of sex and marriage between European and African Americans over the last half of this century.
God calls that relationship an "abomination" that desolates or "depopulates" the European Americans.

Jesus said it was spoken of by DANIEL THE PROPHET, and indeed it was, in chapter 2. Notice:

43 "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."

And again in Dan.11:17, the prophet said, "and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her....."

John made mention of that abomination of desolation as well. Notice Rev.17:16.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast (upon Babylon): these shall hate the whore, and shall make her "desolate and naked", and shall "eat her flesh", and burn her with fire."

As did Paul in 11Thes.2, where in verse 7 he refers to that race mixing as "the mystery of iniquity".

Note that Jesus said when we see that abomination of desolation occuring (standing) in the holy place (in the Christian place, ie, AMERICA), THEN shall be great tribulation.

We've seen that race mixing occuring in America. In fact, it has become commonplace to where even the CHURCHES have embraced it.

The tribulation and God's judgment is surely coming soon upon our nation.

 

[beloved57]

You definitly a false prophet..

 

[beloved57]

I think every true christian wants to be going to the correct church but again where to come out too??

There is no correct church, all are abomnations..

flee to the mountains matt 24:

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

The mountains is Just find refuge in God..

ps 36:
6Thy righteousness is like the great mountains; thy judgments are a great deep: O LORD, thou preservest man and beast.

ps 72:

3The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness.

ps 87:
1His foundation is in the holy mountains.

ps 125:
2As the mountains are round about Jerusalem, so the LORD is round about his people from henceforth even for ever.

 

[n2thelight]

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand"

The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived.

Daniel 9:27; "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and the determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The Holy place is the place that the temple sits, and this is the subject for the very first, when the buildings of the temple were observed by the disciples, and the question of what it would be like at His second advent. This is where the desolation [Satan, the Antichrist] shall sit on mount Zion, making his abominations, or statements that he is the Christ.

The world will be deceived when Satan claims himself to be Christ, for he does have supernatural powers, and he will use them to to draw the peoples of the world to come to peace. He will say, I am Jesus whom ye have been waiting for, and I have come to bring peace to the world, and the world will be brought to peace and prosperity by Satan, the Antichrist.

 

[n2thelight]

beloved57

There is no correct church, all are abomnations..

There are Churches that teach the true Word of God

Lets go to the Book of Revelations,and I will show you two,remember that these are types of Churches mentioned here,focus on what these two taught and you can find a good Church now,but there are not many.

Revelation 2:8 "And unto the angel of the church in Smyr'-na write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive [lived again];"

Here is the second church Jesus told John to write about. It is the church of Smyrna, and all those churches of today which are like it. This is one of the churches God is very pleased with. If your church is not like Smyrna, then you could be in trouble. The key to the church of Smyrna's form of worship is that they took and understood the entire Word of God.

Revelation 2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, [but thou art rich] and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3:7 "And to the angel of the church in Phil-a-del-phi-a write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

Revelation 3:10 "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation [trial], which shall [that hour that is to] come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

These are the only two of the seven that Christ found no fault with.Read what they taught,and you can find that type today

 

[beloved57]

There are Churches that teach the true Word of God

use to be, not no more..