The Amazing Westcott And Hort Magic Marker Binge!

[brother Paul]

Yeah...it seems to me that Luke referred mostly to the first Gospel the earliest apostolic church says was written which would be Matthew's (based on the accepted Hebrew IMO) but jasonc is also correct in that the LXX (translated in Egypt for Philadelphus) was most commonly used to address Greek speaking peoples so Luke may have used the LXX for some of his OT references...in the Greek speaking world the LXX is what we see even before the denomination known as RCC...but I do not think that begs the point.

 

[jasonc]

IMO the RCC is no standard I would go by. I doubt very much that Luke had anything to do with anything coming out of wicked Egypt.

he used it, uhm we got our bible from the rcc. but I guess the protestants made the bible in the 400s. Augustine of hippo and Jerome weren't catholics but protestants.
the jews protested it in the days of Justin martyr, and well when was he right after john's death , so the church went south that fast? Justin is debating the lxx with trypho as the source of the tanach.

CHAPTER LXXI -- THE JEWS REJECT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE LXX., FROM WHICH, MOREOVER, THEY HAVE TAKEN AWAY SOME PASSAGES.

"But I am far from putting reliance in your teachers, who refuse to admit that the interpretation made by the seventy elders who were with Ptolemy[king] of the Egyptians is a correct one; and they attempt to frame another. And I wish you to observe, that they have altogether taken away many Scriptures from the translations effected by those seventy elders who were with Ptolemy, and by which this very man who was crucified is proved to have been set forth expressly as God, and man, and as being crucified, and as dying; but since I am aware that this is denied by all of your nation, I do not address myself to these points, but I proceed to carry on my discussions by means of those passages which are still admitted by you. For you assent to those which I have brought before your attention, except that you contradict the statement, 'Behold, the virgin shall conceive,' and say it ought to be read, 'Behold, the young woman shall conceive.' And I promised to prove that the prophecy referred, not, as you were taught, to Hezekiah, but to this Christ of mine: and now I shall go to the proof."

Here Trypho remarked, "We ask you first of all to tell us some of the Scriptures which you allege have been completely cancelled."

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-dialoguetrypho.html
when was he born? and whom was his teacher?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Martyr

now it depends on when you want to see when the book of revalation was written. 90 ad or prior 70. either way within 40 years or less or more, the church went that south? if you notice martyr is proclaiming the jews removed certain books. the bible wasn't cannonised then. so I don't know what to make of that but the lxx was used them by the church other wise martyr wouldn't have said that

now then if you want to go there.

the Christians didn't write the Masoretic text, the 10th century Jews not Christians wrote it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text

however one could say that mt was in used by the essenes.

 

[Chopper]

he used it, uhm we got our bible from the rcc. but I guess the protestants made the bible in the 400s. Augustine of hippo and Jerome weren't catholics but protestants.
the jews protested it in the days of Justin martyr, and well when was he right after john's death , so the church went south that fast? Justin is debating the lxx with trypho as the source of the tanach.



http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-dialoguetrypho.html
when was he born? and whom was his teacher?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Martyr

now it depends on when you want to see when the book of revalation was written. 90 ad or prior 70. either way within 40 years or less or more, the church went that south? if you notice martyr is proclaiming the jews removed certain books. the bible wasn't cannonised then. so I don't know what to make of that but the lxx was used them by the church other wise martyr wouldn't have said that

now then if you want to go there.

the Christians didn't write the Masoretic text, the 10th century Jews not Christians wrote it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text

however one could say that mt was in used by the essenes.

Our Bible was finished before the RCC got its wicked hands on any manuscript.

 

[jasonc]

Our Bible was finished before the RCC got its wicked hands on any manuscript.

our bible? show me proof that agustine, justyn martyr wasn't a catholic.

the link with martyr in that he mentions the word catholic. I don't believe in a lot of the rcc but the early catholic church wasn't evil. I did say the rcc with the intent of saying they are the descendents of the early catholic church in mind and they do have that right. we broke of from them.we took their bible with us. they added in the extra books later but now im seeing that they may have been there in the first place.