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Bible Study The Bible Is Written Out Of Context

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Squeakybro

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SCRIPTURE IS ALREADY OUT OF CONTEXT(YOU NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT TO PUT IT RIGHT)(HE WILL ONLY QUOTE VERSES)
John 16:25
25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father
John 16:29
29 His disciples said to Him, "See, now You are speaking plainly, and using no figure of speech!
John 12:49
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
Matt 13:34
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
Matt 13:9-11
9 "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?"
11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
John 16:12
12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
2 Tim 2:19
19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity."
1 Cor 3:1-2
1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
Heb 5:12-14
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 8:43
43 "Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.
Mark 4:13-15
13 And He said to them, "Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?
14 "The sower sows the word.
15 "And these are the ones by the wayside where the word is sown. When they hear, Satan comes immediately and takes away the word that was sown in their hearts.
Mark 4:18-19
18 "Now these are the ones sown among thorns; they are the ones who hear the word,
19 "and the cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things entering in choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
1 Cor 2:13
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
2 Cor 3:5-6
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
1 Cor 2:7
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
1 Cor 1:18-19
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
1 Cor 1:21
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
2 Pet 3:16
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
(NKJ)
xxx The bible is already out of context. What the bible says is that everything Jesus spoke He spoke in parables. And everything Paul spoke he spoke the milk understanding. But they both said to find the Holy Spirit and learn from Him. And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses in the meat. There is a milk understanding and there is a meat understanding. The meat is only verses. Your receive the gifts of the Spirit in the milk, but to go into the meat you have to follow the verses(Holy Spirit).
 
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves
 
I know I have met alot of so called prophets that cant even quote a verse.
 
Squeakybro said:
I know I have met alot of so called prophets that cant even quote a verse.

Hi there!


:angel:


Some people "use" the Scriptures, some people "abuse" the Scriptures...




SB, you posted...

26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.


Will you please note that the verb tense for those things that we are to remember is in the past tense.... having been given by God in the past, and not new revelation.


~thanks for sharing~
 
you said
Will you please note that the verb tense for those things that we are to remember is in the past tense.... having been given by God in the past, and not new revelation.


I said
I am not an english teacher. I have no idea of what your saying here. But if you will put it in a language I can understand I will be happy to respond.
 
lol! How can the Bible be out of context? That makes no sense whatsoever. Being in context means that a verse is interpreted within the context of the surrounding verses, which are to be interpreted within the context of the chapter, surrounding chapters, the book, and finally the Bible itself.

"The Bible is already out of context" is a completely meaningless phrase.
 
you said
How can the Bible be out of context? That makes no sense whatsoever.

I said
Statements like that prove you have a problem with discernment.
Everything Jesus spoke He spoke in parables. Everything the apostles spoke they only spoke the milk understanding. But they both said find the Holy Spirit and learn from Him. The Holy Spirit is who teaches the meat understanding.

Matt 13:34-35
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
(NKJ)

1 Cor 3:1-3

1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
(NKJ)
 
The Bible is out of context with what?

To be OUT of Context means that there has to be something with which to be IN context with.

Sadly you have overlooked some key points. Jesus DID speak in Parables or Proverbs--true! However, what did He say?
Jhn 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

The rebuke concerning those that only ate meat was given to the immature Hebrew believers that couldn't get past the simple truths of the basics of the faith.
Hbr 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

Quite often people are found to be out of context with the Holy Scriptures rather than the Holy scriptures be out of context!
 
you said
Sadly you have overlooked some key points. Jesus DID speak in Parables or Proverbs--true! However, what did He say?

I said
that is an oxymoron.
 
Squeakybro said:
I said
Statements like that prove you have a problem with discernment.
Everything Jesus spoke He spoke in parables.

Hi there!

:angel:


When Jesus said, "For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten Son...


Was that a parable?


When Jesus said, "I go to prepare a place for you....


Was that a parable?


~just curious~
 
evanman said:
Quite often people are found to be out of context with the Holy Scriptures rather than the Holy scriptures be out of context!


:-D


<agreed>
 
I hope you can understand your logic, so atleast one of us can get some use out of it.
 
Squeakybro said:
you said
Sadly you have overlooked some key points. Jesus DID speak in Parables or Proverbs--true! However, what did He say?

I said
that is an oxymoron.

Jesus ceased teaching in parables/proverbs, He spoke plainly.

And just what makes Oxen morons?
 
you said
Jesus ceased teaching in parables/proverbs, He spoke plainly.

And just what makes Oxen morons?

I said
More heckling.

2 Tim 2:23-26
23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient,
25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,
26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
(NKJ)
 
Squeakybro said:
you said
Sadly you have overlooked some key points. Jesus DID speak in Parables or Proverbs--true! However, what did He say?

I said
that is an oxymoron.

Oxymoron: "A rhetorical figure in which an epigrammatic effect is created by the conjunction of incongruous or contradictory terms."

Examples: Jumbo shrimp, alone together, bittersweet, and even Microsoft Works.

Where is the oxymoron you have pointed out?
 
you said
Sadly you have overlooked some key points. Jesus DID speak in Parables or Proverbs--true! However, what did He say?

I said
you have overlooked some key points and yet your true.
 
Squeakybro said:
you said
Sadly you have overlooked some key points. Jesus DID speak in Parables or Proverbs--true! However, what did He say?

I said
that is an oxymoron.

Hi there!

:angel:

One key point you overlooked is when and where Jesus chose to use parables and when and where He chose not to use parables.


Mt 13:13
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.



Who is them? It isn't believers....



Mr 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:


The oxymoron is that you believe the parables are for the believer.



My friend, you need to learn what THIS Bible teaches before you try to teach new revelations to the world that are contrary to what the Bible says.



~serapha~
 
you said
One key point you overlooked is when and where Jesus chose to use parables and when and where He chose not to use parables.


I said
That is where we differ. This says everything Jesus spoke to the multitude, the bible is written to the multitude.

Matt 13:34-35
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
(NKJ)
 
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