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the Christian truth about the evil of birth control

no I am realy in the middle on this issue thanks for your points I guess I am guilty of using birth control I dont feel bad about it. I can so understand killing after life is born but preventing life seems to be a choice that dosnt harm anyone I am not wanting to change anyones mind I am just saying my opinion
 
Fair enough, but it would seem like the mindset of "preventing life" makes it easier to take that life later on--and/or justify doing so.

Life is good. It's a beautiful thing... a cause for celebration. Trying to "prevent life" would seem to take the opposite view (or at least portray one to the secular world).
 
Birth control is certainly a more moral stance than having children you can't afford or don't want.
 
Barbara Allan said:
Birth control is certainly a more moral stance than having children you can't afford or don't want.
Or maybe we could teach our kids about the sanctity of marriage instead of creating a filthy society where schools promote sex and immoral lifestyes.

And maybe we should view children in the Biblical way, as blessings from God, rather than as annoyances or burdens.

And maybe people would think twich about casual sex if the left didn't make it so easy to kill babies with abortion.
 
Prior to 1930 all Protestant denominations agreed with the Catholic Church in maintaining the historic Christian position that artificial birth controlâ€â€contraceptionâ€â€is gravely wrong as a violation of God’s design for human sexuality.

Since 1930, much of the Protestant world has soaked up the secular sexual morality that has been flooding Western civilization, but many have been returning to the historic Christian position on contraception. Here is what some twentieth-century Protestants have been saying.


RICK AND JAN HESS - ( NON-DENOMINATIONAL):

"The difference between revival and judgment may rest on whether our hearts are turned toward welcoming our present and future children. Without question, the church today does not love children. A bad attitude toward children brings a curse. A miserly attitude toward children makes God miserly toward us. But an openhearted, generous desire for and appreciation of children as God’s good gifts inclines God to trust us with many more good giftsâ€â€gifts we have not even seen for over 150 years now and can scarcely imagine" (A Full Quiver).




MICHAEL HIRSCH - ( REFORMED):

"How will God punish us for having as many children as he dictates? Will he say, ‘Because you were not good stewards and did not use birth control, you will have childrenâ€â€and lots of them. In addition, you will starve and die a hideous death. The unregenerate will have rule over you"? Sounds more like the great and powerful Oz than the God of the Bible. And much of modern American Christendom responds, ‘If I only had a brain’" ("Mountains for the Taking" in Biblical Worldview).




PHIL LANCASTER - ( NON-DENOMINATIONAL):

"Notice how the Christian arguments in favor of birth control have proliferated at the same time as the abortion mentality has established its death grip on our culture. Culturally, the birth control mindset is the mother of abortion. Both celebrate choice; both view children as a burden; both ignore God’s plan for multiplying children as a vehicle for the spread of his kingdom. Christians have been immersed in the polluted well of humanist thought, and, though most may have rejected the overt philosophy of humanism, they have nonetheless conformed their practice to that which grows from the humanist worldview . . . the Christian who is challenged on [the subject of birth control] would do well to consider if his practice is the fruit of the Word or of the world" (Patriarch magazine).



SAMUEL OWEN - ( NON-DENOMINATIONAL):

"While it is true that no child should be born unwanted, that does not mean a husband and wife should prevent his birth. Rather, they should change their attitude. As Christians, they must reject the prevalent narcissistic control mentality that causes couples to not want children. They must embrace instead the biblical perspective that bearing children is their responsibility and privilege. For believers, every child should be wanted and received as a precious gift" (Letting God Plan Your Family).




ARTHUR PINK - ( BAPTIST):

"We do not believe in what is termed ‘birth control,’ but we do earnestly urge self-control, especially by the husband, ‘But whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.’ This is a most solemn warning against unfaithfulness; those who live and die impenitently in these sins will eternally perish (Eph. 5:5)" (Commentary on Hebrews).



MARY PRIDE - ( PRESBYTERIAN):

"There is an alternative to scheming and plotting how many babies to have and when to have them. It can be summed up in three little words: trust and obey . . . Only God knows the future. Only he knows how much money we will have next year, or when I will reach menopause, or when his Kingdom will desperately need the unique talents of my yet-to-be-conceived son or daughter. Why not leave the driving to him?" (The Way Home).



CHARLES PROVAN - ( PRESBYTERIAN):

"Many Christians today have not even considered the question, ‘What does God think of birth control?’ It is a question ‘too stupid to even consider’ in the eyes of most. . . . But just because Americans think that birth control is morally acceptable does not make birth control right in the eyes of God. . . . You may be surprised tht the Bible does in fact say quite a bit about this widespread customâ€â€all of it negative" (The Bible and Birth Control).
 
Catholic Crusader said:
[quote="Barbara Allan":dc363]Birth control is certainly a more moral stance than having children you can't afford or don't want.
Or maybe we could teach our kids about the sanctity of marriage instead of creating a filthy society where schools promote sex and immoral lifestyes.

And maybe we should view children in the Biblical way, as blessings from God, rather than as annoyances or burdens.

And maybe people would think twich about casual sex if the left didn't make it so easy to kill babies with abortion.[/quote:dc363]

Lot of maybes there. None are likely. All are net negatives for all except people for whom it is none of their business.
 
Catholic Crusader said:
Prior to 1930 all Protestant denominations agreed with the Catholic Church in maintaining the historic Christian position that artificial birth controlâ€â€contraceptionâ€â€is gravely wrong as a violation of God’s design for human sexuality.

Fortunately the Protestant churches advanced.

So did the Catholic laity, the vast majority of which practice some form of birth control.
 
Barbara Allan said:
Lot of maybes there. None are likely. All are net negatives for all except people for whom it is none of their business.

Funny, I always thought that protecting children and promoting a decent culture was EVERYONE's business.
 
Catholic Crusader said:
[quote="Barbara Allan":a96d6]
Lot of maybes there. None are likely. All are net negatives for all except people for whom it is none of their business.

Funny, I always thought that protecting children and promoting a decent culture was EVERYONE's business.[/quote:a96d6]

Not applicable on 'protecting children'. You can't have a 'decent culture' that institutes a government that demands control over women's bodies.
 
Barbara Allan said:
You can't have a 'decent culture' that institutes a government that demands control over women's bodies.

That's a good argument for prostitution as well. She can do with her body as she pleases without any moral impunity but her own.
 
Potluck said:
Barbara Allan said:
You can't have a 'decent culture' that institutes a government that demands control over women's bodies.

That's a good argument for prostitution as well. She can do with her body as she pleases without any moral impunity but her own.

I don't disagree. Laws against prostitution are wrong, too.
 
the Christian truth about the evil of birth control

Oral contraceptives allow ovulation about 25-35% of the time. This is from research done using ultrasound. As a result a woman who is sexually active using oral contraceptives could be unwittingly aborting a baby every third or fourth month.

If children are from the Lord, using birth control is a lot like spitting in His face and saying, "We have our own plans".

For those who do not call themselves Christian, why would you expect any difference. For those who call themselves Christian, they should consider to what extend they have adopted the course of this world and become enemies of God. (James 4)
 
Barbara Allan said:
[quote="Catholic Crusader":b2467]Funny, I always thought that protecting children and promoting a decent culture was EVERYONE's business.
Not applicable on 'protecting children'. You can't have a 'decent culture' that institutes a government that demands control over women's bodies.[/quote:b2467]


This is not a woman's body. This a A CHILD

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And you think it should be legal to kill him and throw him in the trash? Thats good law?
 
Barbara Allan said:
I don't disagree. Laws against prostitution are wrong, too.

And if a prostitute became pregnant then an abortion would be proper if she wanted to continue business as usual.
Ok, so continuing on with, "It's her body, she can do with it as she pleases without government intervention":
.............. (Btw, I don't agree a baby is part of a woman's body but that's not the point)
So if that's to be so, freedom to do with one's body as desired, then where is a line drawn? If a person wants to use cocaine for example then that too should be ok, it's their body. Of course the same laws concerning "intoxification" or "under the influence" would have to apply. But it shouldn't be illegal to do with one's body as one pleases even if one chooses, as an adult, to get stoned on marijuana or cocaine. Just don't drive or get out of control.
Is this too within the realm of "freedom of the body "?
 
Man, I couldn't agree more, CC. Giving birth is SUCH a privilege for a woman. God could have easily designed us to lay eggs, but HE didn't. :-D
 
"Every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil.

(Humanae Vitae 14, Pope Paul VI)
 
Timf said:
the Christian truth about the evil of birth control

Oral contraceptives allow ovulation about 25-35% of the time. This is from research done using ultrasound. As a result a woman who is sexually active using oral contraceptives could be unwittingly aborting a baby every third or fourth month.

If children are from the Lord, using birth control is a lot like spitting in His face and saying, "We have our own plans".

For those who do not call themselves Christian, why would you expect any difference. For those who call themselves Christian, they should consider to what extend they have adopted the course of this world and become enemies of God. (James 4)

Birth control is no more against God than any other medical procedure. when Edward Jenner invented the smallpox vaccine, some country preachers were against it, saying if god intended a person to get smallpox, then, they should get it. They were wrong. So are those against birth control.
 
[quote="Catholic Crusader]And you think it should be legal to kill him and throw him in the trash? Thats good law?[/quote]

Some problems are not best solved by passing laws against them.
 
Potluck said:
So if that's to be so, freedom to do with one's body as desired, then where is a line drawn? If a person wants to use cocaine for example then that too should be ok, it's their body. Of course the same laws concerning "intoxification" or "under the influence" would have to apply. But it shouldn't be illegal to do with one's body as one pleases even if one chooses, as an adult, to get stoned on marijuana or cocaine. Just don't drive or get out of control.
Is this too within the realm of "freedom of the body "?

It's no secret the 'war on drugs' is a colassal failure. While some regulation is needed to maintain public order by and large consumption of substances should not be addressed by criminal law. Treatment is a more appropriate option. Marijuana should certainly be legal for adults.
 
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