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The day of the Lord

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stephmacleod

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Hi,

I'm writing a worship album and would like to ask some advice on specific parts of the bible. I have posted it here instead of the Music part of the site as I wont ask about anything relating to the actual music. I just want to get a good knowledge and understanding of the scriptures so not to write something inappropriate. Before I continue I must tell you that I am fairly young in my walk with Christ and I'd like to have a better understanding of scripture, but that will come in time, I know. So here goes:

I want to write about the Day of the Lord. I understand it as the second coming of Christ where he will reign on earth for a second time, but this time 'every knee will bow, every tongue confess he is Lord'. To me this will be a day of great rejoicing!

However, I have also read that it is a time to be fearful as God will invoke his wrath upon us. The following scripture indicates we will all be tremble:

“Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming. It is close at hand†(Joel 2:1)

This has left me a little confused. :confused Could anyone clarify or give me some more information on the Day of the Lord, the second coming of Christ, please? I don't want to write anything without understanding it first.

Many thanks and blessings

Steph
 
The second coming, is a part in the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord starts with the Rapture of the Church, and ends with his return to the Mount of Olives at his second coming.

Some also include the Millennium, in the day of the Lord. But most, consider the time period I mentioned above.
 
stephmacleod said:
I understand it as the second coming of Christ where he will reign on earth for a second time, but this time 'every knee will bow, every tongue confess he is Lord'. To me this will be a day of great rejoicing!

However, I have also read that it is a time to be fearful as God will invoke his wrath upon us. The following scripture indicates we will all be tremble:

“Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming. It is close at hand†(Joel 2:1)

This has left me a little confused.
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Steph, as Christians we have nothing to fear from this day. As you stated it will be a day of great rejoicing. It is the unbelievers who need fear this day. Today they do not recognize Jesus as King, but on this day EVERY knee will bow and Every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. Even the unbelievers will see Him as King. Unfortunately, those who have not worshipped Christ before this day will not have that opportunity on this day. Good luck with your music and God bless, Westtexas
 
The "last day" is associated with Jesus' return to earth a second time (1 Thes 4:13-17, 1 Cor. 15:50-55). In this day only those that believed in Jesus will be resurrected and/or gathered unto the Lord. For a period of 1.000 years we will dwell with Jesus. After this time the rest of the dead will be raised and immediately attack the city of God.
 
I believe worship comes from the heart. Let the Holy Spirit guide you as to what to write. If you are meant to write about the day the Lord returns it will come out. Some of the best music and lyrics come from those who are confused and looking over those who think they know. Let God guide your writing and just see what happens. You might be surprised. Good luck in your writing and music. May God use you for His glory.
 
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Amos 5:18-20
The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers. And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung. Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
Zeph 1:14-18
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Rev 6:15-17
 
I am thinking that there will not be a rapture of the church. Now there may be some pulled out of here if hydrogen blasts and chemical warfare began. Then some would be pulled out. Like the three in the furnace, or Lot and his family. God is merciful so there surely would be some spared. But I don't believe that world wide there will be Christians who vanished. This rapture theory is full of holes.
 
ronniechoate34 said:
I am thinking that there will not be a rapture of the church. Now there may be some pulled out of here if hydrogen blasts and chemical warfare began. Then some would be pulled out. Like the three in the furnace, or Lot and his family. God is merciful so there surely would be some spared. But I don't believe that world wide there will be Christians who vanished. This rapture theory is full of holes.
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YOur right there will be no rapture.....

Those that are alive will go thru the temptation/tribulation of satan...........
 
costcounter said:
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Amos 5:18-20
The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers. And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung. Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
Zeph 1:14-18
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Rev 6:15-17
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costcounter,

When the Son hands the kingdom over to the Father, then the chastening of the Father brings forth fruit meet for repentance.

Heb 12:5-8,11
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye without a birthright, and not sons.

11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. KJV

Joe
 
stephmacleod said:
Hi,

I'm writing a worship album and would like to ask some advice on specific parts of the bible. I have posted it here instead of the Music part of the site as I wont ask about anything relating to the actual music. I just want to get a good knowledge and understanding of the scriptures so not to write something inappropriate. Before I continue I must tell you that I am fairly young in my walk with Christ and I'd like to have a better understanding of scripture, but that will come in time, I know. So here goes:

I want to write about the Day of the Lord. I understand it as the second coming of Christ where he will reign on earth for a second time, but this time 'every knee will bow, every tongue confess he is Lord'. To me this will be a day of great rejoicing!

However, I have also read that it is a time to be fearful as God will invoke his wrath upon us. The following scripture indicates we will all be tremble:

“Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming. It is close at hand†(Joel 2:1)

This has left me a little confused. :confused Could anyone clarify or give me some more information on the Day of the Lord, the second coming of Christ, please? I don't want to write anything without understanding it first.

Many thanks and blessings

Steph
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Maybe you can see Steph, how this kind of subject can open up a can of worms? It's gonna' mean you'll have to do your OWN Bible study about it, because why write a song about it of events you haven't understood for yourself first? What you include about it in your song may very well determine whether our Heavenly Father will bless it or not. Bible study and prayer, prayer and Bible study. It's the only way.
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Steph, your asking a good question. Unfortunately the answer his large and complex. Do you have any idea how much material the scriptures contains on the Day of the Lord? Isaiah, Zechariah, Joel, and many more books. The NT has a few references also in 1 and 2 Thes, Revelation, and a few other references.

There is no one single easy answer to even define the term. It includes some of the things already mentioned. It has the 2nd coming, tribulation, and in Isaiah 11 it includes a great day of peace in which there is direct rule by the son of David.

But if you read Joel, some of the early references in Joel concerning the Day of the Lord have reference to a historical plague of locust. This is historical Day of the Lord is paralleled with a future Day of the Lord. So then there are some "Day of the Lord" material that is already fulfilled historically in Joel in a plague of Locust.

The Day of the Lord in Peter is a time when all the elements of the universe melt and there is a new creation.

With this background, let me say that there are different views concerning the material in Joel. Most agree that the plague is past, but signifies a future day of judgment. One of the most well known of the Joel passages is 2:28-32. Here is one to make you think.... if Joel 2:28-32 is fulfilled in Acts 2, the why does Paul say in 2 Thes 2:1-2 that the Day of the Lord has not yet come?

Is Acts 2 the fulfillment of Joel 2? Or was it merely an application of a certain part of the Day of the Lord?
 
ronniechoate34 said:
I am thinking that there will not be a rapture of the church. Now there may be some pulled out of here if hydrogen blasts and chemical warfare began. Then some would be pulled out. Like the three in the furnace, or Lot and his family. God is merciful so there surely would be some spared. But I don't believe that world wide there will be Christians who vanished. This rapture theory is full of holes.
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Agreed, Jesus said it would be like the day of Noah and Lot not Enoch. We will be delivered but not raptured. The only part of us that will be raptured is our soul after we die in the natural.
 
MMarc said:
ronniechoate34 said:
I am thinking that there will not be a rapture of the church. Now there may be some pulled out of here if hydrogen blasts and chemical warfare began. Then some would be pulled out. Like the three in the furnace, or Lot and his family. God is merciful so there surely would be some spared. But I don't believe that world wide there will be Christians who vanished. This rapture theory is full of holes.
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Agreed, Jesus said it would be like the day of Noah and Lot not Enoch. We will be delivered but not raptured. The only part of us that will be raptured is our soul after we die in the natural.
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The only part of us that will be raptured is our soul after we die in the natural. :yes
 
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he hath turned back the heart of fathers to sons, And the heart of sons to their fathers, Before I come and have utterly smitten the land! (YLT)

Luk 1:13 and the messenger said unto him, `Fear not, Zacharias, for thy supplication was heard, and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear a son to thee, and thou shalt call his name John,
Luk 1:17 and he shall go before Him, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn hearts of fathers unto children,

Mat 11:13 for all the prophets and the law till John did prophesy,
Mat 11:14 and if ye are willing to receive it , he is Elijah who was about to come;

Apparently the day of the Lord started a long time ago, lol
 
Matt 17:10-13
10 And His disciples asked Him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist.
(KJV)

John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah, and what happenned? He was rejected, as also Christ was. And the kingdom to Israel became in abeyance. The day of The Lord didn't happen then either, because there's a huge difference between Christ offering the kingdom and then being crucified for it.
 
veteran said:
Matt 17:10-13
10 And His disciples asked Him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist.
(KJV)

John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah, and what happenned? He was rejected, as also Christ was. And the kingdom to Israel became in abeyance. The day of The Lord didn't happen then either, because there's a huge difference between Christ offering the kingdom and then being crucified for it.
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Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

Then Elijah will come a third time, or there are thousands of years between his coming and the day of the Lord.

Mat 3:11 `I indeed do baptize you with water to reformation, but he who after me is coming is mightier than I, of whom I am not worthy to bear the sandals, he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire,
Mat 3:12 whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor, and will gather his wheat to the storehouse, but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.'

His fan was already in his hand, and he definitely burned up the Jews that killed him lol.
 
stephmacleod said:
Hi,

I'm writing a worship album and would like to ask some advice on specific parts of the bible. I have posted it here instead of the Music part of the site as I wont ask about anything relating to the actual music. I just want to get a good knowledge and understanding of the scriptures so not to write something inappropriate. Before I continue I must tell you that I am fairly young in my walk with Christ and I'd like to have a better understanding of scripture, but that will come in time, I know. So here goes:

I want to write about the Day of the Lord. I understand it as the second coming of Christ where he will reign on earth for a second time, but this time 'every knee will bow, every tongue confess he is Lord'. To me this will be a day of great rejoicing!

However, I have also read that it is a time to be fearful as God will invoke his wrath upon us. The following scripture indicates we will all be tremble:

“Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming. It is close at hand†(Joel 2:1)

This has left me a little confused. :confused Could anyone clarify or give me some more information on the Day of the Lord, the second coming of Christ, please? I don't want to write anything without understanding it first.

Many thanks and blessings

Steph
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DO what GOd desires of you,,,and you will have nothing to fear from this day,,,sadly You will see much of humanity suffer through this time.....But you will see it,,,and if you are alive you will go through it,,,but again,,nothing to fear if you arent worshipping the antichrist when the real Christ comes....
 
researcher said:
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he hath turned back the heart of fathers to sons, And the heart of sons to their fathers, Before I come and have utterly smitten the land! (YLT)

Luk 1:13 and the messenger said unto him, `Fear not, Zacharias, for thy supplication was heard, and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear a son to thee, and thou shalt call his name John,
Luk 1:17 and he shall go before Him, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn hearts of fathers unto children,

Mat 11:13 for all the prophets and the law till John did prophesy,
Mat 11:14 and if ye are willing to receive it , he is Elijah who was about to come;

Apparently the day of the Lord started a long time ago, lol
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You are correct in what you said, it seems that scripture speaks of five different end times. Perhaps even more. For us a relevant end time will occur between now and 2144. Even so, there seems to be more than one end event in that time frame. If all those things were to take place at the same time then no one would survive. I presume that the events will be long and drawn out over time. Even then we are told that if those days were not cut short that no flesh would survive. Again I presume that to mean Christ return and God's divine intervention.
 
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