Satan isn't called the great deceiver for nothing. He can deceive people into thinking that monkeys can breed human descendants, that scientists have the truth over God's word, that there is no hell, that Jesus isn't the Christ, that Mary was sinless or a virgin all her life, that if Eve ate the apple, she would have as much knwledge as God, that sin is fun, that money is the answer to people's problems, that there's nothing wrong with lust, and just about anything he wants people to believe.
If someone tells you that aliens just invaded the earth from Jupiter, would you believe it? Do you think you can choose to believe something without proof? :o If you don't need proof, then what's your criteria for believing something? :-?
So the notion that Satan doesn't deceive people but instead, people choose not to believe in God, and choose not to sin is poppycock. That is in essence saying that man cannot be deceived by Satan which is unbiblical and another lie of Satan. One cannot choose to believe what he doesn't see or understand. Only the Holy Spirit has the power to over-ride Satan's deceptions and lead us into all truth as Jesus tells us.
So the fact of the matter is that man is either being deceived by Satan or is being led by the Spirit. He is not above either one. And since some people here don't udnerstand that and have instead, twisted my words and claimed that I said what I didn't say, then there's no point in quoting scripture here just to have it argued with. Atheists do that enough without hearing it on a Christian forum. You all have the bible. And the bible makes it crystal clear that God;
1) Does the choosing
2) Does the saving
3) Does the forgiving
4) Does the redeeming
5) Is in the process of making us holy
6) Is the instigator of all things
7) Determines all things
8) Leads us out of temptation
9) Gives us the Spirit of truth
10) Is the greatest power in the universe
So all you need to do is read and believe every word in the bible and there would be no reason just to come here and argue. If you don't understand a verse(s) then ask God for discernment and reconcile it with other verses. Nobody really listens to others or changes his mind on these forums anyway. They just come to debate and argue about words and the law which the bible tells us not to do. Our struggle isn't against flesh and blood but against the powers of darkness. But here, there is too much struggle against flesh and blood that creates too much dissention between Christians. So if you guys want to continue to argue, then you'll have to do it without me. If you want to know what's true, then you have the bible. God bless.
If someone tells you that aliens just invaded the earth from Jupiter, would you believe it? Do you think you can choose to believe something without proof? :o If you don't need proof, then what's your criteria for believing something? :-?
So the notion that Satan doesn't deceive people but instead, people choose not to believe in God, and choose not to sin is poppycock. That is in essence saying that man cannot be deceived by Satan which is unbiblical and another lie of Satan. One cannot choose to believe what he doesn't see or understand. Only the Holy Spirit has the power to over-ride Satan's deceptions and lead us into all truth as Jesus tells us.
So the fact of the matter is that man is either being deceived by Satan or is being led by the Spirit. He is not above either one. And since some people here don't udnerstand that and have instead, twisted my words and claimed that I said what I didn't say, then there's no point in quoting scripture here just to have it argued with. Atheists do that enough without hearing it on a Christian forum. You all have the bible. And the bible makes it crystal clear that God;
1) Does the choosing
2) Does the saving
3) Does the forgiving
4) Does the redeeming
5) Is in the process of making us holy
6) Is the instigator of all things
7) Determines all things
8) Leads us out of temptation
9) Gives us the Spirit of truth
10) Is the greatest power in the universe
So all you need to do is read and believe every word in the bible and there would be no reason just to come here and argue. If you don't understand a verse(s) then ask God for discernment and reconcile it with other verses. Nobody really listens to others or changes his mind on these forums anyway. They just come to debate and argue about words and the law which the bible tells us not to do. Our struggle isn't against flesh and blood but against the powers of darkness. But here, there is too much struggle against flesh and blood that creates too much dissention between Christians. So if you guys want to continue to argue, then you'll have to do it without me. If you want to know what's true, then you have the bible. God bless.