Bible Study The Growth Bible Series: -Sin unto Death-

[Atonement]

I will be offering Bible questions and what I feel are Biblical answers to these questions. Let us study these that we allow ourselves to grow in the Lord. All responses are welcome

Question:

What is a "sin unto death?"

My answer:

The Bible declares there is a "sin unto death:"

1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

This sin committed by a Christian who grieves God by continually sinning in the face of Light and the conviction of the Holy Spirit. That Christian's life is cut short; meaning, they die prematurely. It is not a reference to being lost or going to hell. A "sin unto death" is not a reference to the unpardonable sin.
John says that we should not pray for those who sin unto death. What does he mean by this? We have a right to pray for any Christian who is in sin, that God would restore him to fellowship. We also have the right to pray that God would spare him from sickness that comes because of sin (James 5:16,17). But if God is going to take him home to heaven prematurley because of his sin then our prayers will have no bearing on the case. We are not to pray for him. This is my understanding on the "sin unto death."

 

[jgredline]

This sin committed by a Christian who grieves God by continually sinning in the face of Light and the conviction of the Holy Spirit. That Christian's life is cut short; meaning, they die prematurely. It is not a reference to being lost or going to hell. A "sin unto death" is not a reference to the unpardonable sin.

This is interesting...Truly, I agree with this...I do believe that God will take ones life as opposed to loosing him....This belief is in harmony with what the bible teaches....I will leave it there for now, to see if others chime in.

 

[Bick]

Quote by Atonement:

The Bible declares there is a "sin unto death:"

1 John 5:16 "If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it."

Interesting verse. My view is that John wrote this during the Acts period when the sins of Ananias and Sapphira, lying to the Holy Spirit, met with immediate death.

Evidently, John felt that a "sin unto death" could be recognized, for he says not to pray for that kind of sin.

Also, when Paul penned 1 Corinthians, perhaps his first epistle, he gave instructions that those partaking of the Lord's supper should eat and drink in a worthy manner. And any who didn't discern the body and blood of Christ during their eating the bread and drinking of the cup, brings judgment upon himself, and many were weak and ill, and some died.
See 1 Cor. 11:27-32.

Perhaps, this is what John was referring to.

 

[sandman]

Quite honestly I am not totally convinced that I am right in my premise, because the Word does not specifically spell it out. But I do know that what I speak of does have irreversible and unforgivable consequences ……so let me submit to you this.
God is not into games ….salvation is not a hide and seek….. maybe you’ll make it….maybe you won’t… that is not what God or His grace is about.
II Peter 1:3 states According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
The all things has got to include salvation …….and His Word is very clear as to how we attain salvation, albeit, it is fairly obscure as to the unforgivable sin. The reason (and this is just a guess} is that the unforgivable sin is not one that many will commit, and truly not one anyone will commit unwittingly.
By sheer deduction {that is eliminating all the things that God can and does forgive} the only thing that He is not able to forgive, is something that is irreversible; that is,……………….. being born of the devils seed

That is the only unforgivable unredeemable sin “A sin unto death†that the Bible reveals.
Other than what is revealed below, I have never met a sin in the Bible that God does not forgive.

Having spent a few years in the satanic arena I was aware of the children of the devil, those born of the seed of the serpent.
As I grew in the Word I gained an understanding of the adversary and his cohorts, and a greater understanding of the power we as Christians, who are born again of Gods seed have in our lives. I Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

There is a devil with a host of devil spirits on this earth to disrupt the movement of the Word, and hinder Gods people, whose purpose, to steal, kill, and destroy.
A spiritual battle is taking place around us daily, not that we should focus on this, for “greater is He that is in you then he that is in the world†{II Cor 4:4}. But you should be aware of who your adversary is, and how he operates, so when conflict does arise you know where it is coming from and how to handle it.

Most, if not all of us here are born again of Gods incorruptible seed. This was accomplished by repenting from sin, and confessing Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. {Romans 10:9} When we did that, the great miracle of all times took place “the new birthâ€Â. No more a person of body and soul we now have spirit within. That spirit {holy spirit} is the gift, the promise of the Father, incorruptible seed.

Once you have seed (that spirit of God within) you cannot loose it or change it, anymore then you can loose or change the physical seed from your natural birth; hence being born again

Now, just as you accepted Christ as your Lord there are those who have accepted the devil as their lord and confessed with their mouth that he is the true god, and thus are born of the seed of the devil. Seed is seed, you cannot change it, once you accept the devil as your true god you are born of the devils seed. Of coarse it is not incorruptible like Gods seed. For the Word declares that the end is coming for the god of this world.

Just to clarify: not everybody who is in satanic worship or who practices in the occult is “seed.†Many are not; some are born again Christians, obviously not walking in the light of their calling, {I use the word “Christians,†just to distinguish between the two seeds. they are former Christians, born again of Gods seed.} And some are just a person of body and soul who have not made a commitment either way.

See, I know that these people do exist and it would shock many of you to know who these people are, and in what positions they are in this world, but there are those who are thinking this is not real; so lets look at scripture.

I am just going to point out a few things in the following scriptures, that in and of itself, should be pretty much self-explanatory.


Genesis points out the two seeds, the one of the woman which was Christ Galatians 3:16 and the seed of the serpent

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel


I John sets the distinction between forgivable and unforgivable sin. It does no good to pray for someone who is sinned unto death {seed of the devil}
I John 5:16 {17 & 18} not listed If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.




Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come

Mark 3:29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Luke 12:10b And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Matthew , Mark and Luke set up this full account for us recorded in John, of whom Jesus is again speaking to the same scribes and Pharisees the ones who had committed the sin against the Holy Ghost. Note throughout this, that the eyes of there understanding are closed. People of the wrong seed will never understand spiritual truths.

John 8:12-47
12: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
13: The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
14: Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
15: Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16: And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
17: It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18: I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
19: Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
20: These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
21: Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
22: Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23: And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24: I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25: Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26: I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27: They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
28: Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29: And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
30: As he spake these words, many believed on him

Verse 30 tells us why Jesus even bothered to teach. He obviously knew the Pharisees would not believe, but others were present which did believe

31: Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33: They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34: Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35: And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36: If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37: I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

they were Abraham’s seed according to the flesh, their physical bloodline.

38: I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

note the mentioning of two different fathers

39: They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham
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note: Jesus agrees in verse 37 that they were of Abraham’s seed then in verse 39 he disputes that. Verse 37 refers to the bloodline verse 39 is speaking of Abrahamic believers.

40: But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

they just forgot to mention which god. Jesus proceeds to clarify that for them

42: Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43: Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45: And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46: Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47: He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

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Our Father is God {Elohim} We are His sons and daughters because of the new birth which took place inside us. Jesus told the Pharisees that their father was the devil, and as I mentioned previously seed is seed it cannot be changed. When you are born the first time your physical birth, you have the physical seed of your parents. You cannot change who you are. You can run away from home, change your name, or put a bag over your head but you are still of the physical lineage, that physical seed that was passed on at birth. When you were born again you are no longer just body and soul, but body, soul, and spirit. You have that seed of God in Christ in you, no longer limited to our senses walk, to walk according to the coarse of this world. We have that spiritual connection, we are part of the family of God.
There are others who have decided to take a different route, those who have selected to go the way of darkness, to make the god of this world, their god. Their father is the devil, the deceiver, and the author of lies. Their power is real, and much glory and rewards do they receive here on earth ….but that will end. These are the children of the devil, who are born of the devils seed, they have gone the way of Cane, and that sin against the Holy Ghost is unforgivable, unchangeable, unredeemable; for seed cannot be changed.

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sandman