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The IDEPTH story of Achan

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I was asked today about the stoning of a person to death? Surely Christ God gave this person an 7 x 70 opportunity to come forward! Try this below for Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15!
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Christ God of the O.T. needs to be seen = as the Same Christ God of the N.T.

First we see Eternal Documentation of [THE WORD] (John 1:14) Himself in Mal. 4
[6] For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Next we see Heb. 13:8-9 (in part)
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. (+)
[9] Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. ..' (In His Warning!)

OK: Ignorant?? Inspiration Tel's us who was His own executing Theocracy in His Bible, who most today want another 'c'hrist to be found in their N.T. Bible!

1Cor.10
[1] Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
[2] And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
[3] And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
[4] And did all drink the same spiritual drink:

for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

(and NO, satan's rome with their false pope Peter was not around then either! But as we continue on you will find that the 'great whore' to come, + her returned false teaching daughter's are! (see Eccl. 3:15) The ones which are prophesied as such in Rev. 17:1-5.. are such!)

Joshua 7

[1] But the children of Israel committed a trespass in the accursed thing: for Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against the children of Israel.

(take note that ALL Israel were held accountable as Rev. 18:4 Partakers! And because Joshua found an easy victory & did not consult the Lord, he did not know of the sin of Achan. And 'about' 36 men died in battle.)

[2] And Joshua sent men from Jericho to Ai, which is beside Beth-aven, on the east side of Bethel, and spake unto them, saying, Go up and view the country. And the men went up and viewed Ai.
[3] And they returned to Joshua, and said unto him, Let not all the people go up; but let about two or three thousand men go up and smite Ai; and make not all the people to labour thither; for they are but few.

[4] So there went up thither of the people about three thousand men: and they fled before the men of Ai.
[5] And the men of Ai smote of them about thirty and six men: for they chased them from before the gate even unto Shebarim, and smote them in the going down: wherefore the hearts of the people melted, and became as water.

[6] And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads.
[7] And Joshua said, Alas, O Lord GOD, wherefore hast thou at all brought this people over Jordan, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? would to God we had been content, and dwelt on the other side Jordan!

[8] O Lord, what shall I say, when Israel turneth their backs before their enemies!
[9] For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land shall hear of it, and shall environ us round, and cut off our name from the earth: and what wilt thou do unto thy great name?

[10] And the LORD said unto Joshua, Get thee up; wherefore liest thou thus upon thy face?
[11] Israel (All Israel are included as Partakers! ) hath sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff.

[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed:

neither will I be with you any more, [except ye destroy the accursed from among you].


OK: Christ of the OT is seen above in the New! You can read the whole chapter & find out how many opportunities Achan + family were given to come forward in repentence before they were executed, and that was by the whole of Israel & the COMMAND OF CHRIST!!

And yes, it is a little different in the Theocracy of Christ & His New Extended Church Fold in Acts, as we see below in Matt. 18. But you can rest assured that both executions were illustrations of the Second death's final penalty as the Obedient Church had instructions to carry out. (and if not, see Josh. 7:12 again! + Matt. 23:38 & Rev. 2:5 with Rev. 3:16's SPEWED OUT ONES.. who became the ones of Rev. 3:9 synagogue of satan!)

Matt.18

[15] Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

[17] And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

[18] Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

And again, see the above what happened to the complete professed 'only' Church! This is the reason that in our day, we 'see' the Rev. 17:1-5 verse in plain view & in documented TV + print almost daily!

And the Spoken Word of Isa. 5:4-5 of what is 'happening!' (along with Matt. 24:22's removal of the Lord's protection of earth. Gen. 6:3

--Elijah
 
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And the Spoken Word of Isa. 5:4-5 of what is 'happening!' (along with Matt. 24:22's removal of the Lord's protection of earth. Gen. 6:3

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Ya ever buy a certain color or type of car and after that for a time that's all you see are other cars of the same type or color?

There is a principle involved there. It's called personal bias.

Here for example is 'another factual sight' to be had about the earth, up to thee end:

Genesis 8:22
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

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And the Spoken Word of Isa. 5:4-5 of what is 'happening!' (along with Matt. 24:22's removal of the Lord's protection of earth. Gen. 6:3

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Ya ever buy a certain color or type of car and after that for a time that's all you see are other cars of the same type or color?

There is a principle involved there. It's called personal bias.

Here for example is 'another factual sight' to be had about the earth, up to thee end:

Genesis 8:22
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

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Just for your wisdom, this was how it came out when I pasted it up. But it seems that you are again off the subject as usual!:naughty

--Elijah
 
Just for your wisdom, this was how it came out when I pasted it up. But it seems that you are again off the subject as usual!:naughty

--Elijah

I 'remarked' on your statement of 'removal of Gods protection' from the earth as a non-starter.

No one removes themselves from His Omnipresence or Omnipotence.

Those kinds of 'removal statements' are imaginations of those who have erected a lesser God.

s
 
Just for your wisdom, this was how it came out when I pasted it up. But it seems that you are again off the subject as usual!:naughty

--Elijah

I 'remarked' on your statement of 'removal of Gods protection' from the earth as a non-starter.

No one removes themselves from His Omnipresence or Omnipotence.

Those kinds of 'removal statements' are imaginations of those who have erected a lesser God.

s

Does & did God for/know of our Choice?? Surely, but His will was to let all choose that knowledge for there self. See Heb. 11:1-2 + Heb. 11:13

Heb. 11:1-2 says it this way...

[1] Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
[2] For by it the elders obtained a good report.
[3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

and on down has it said this way...

[13] These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

And these ones are all dead awaiting what their FAITH Claimed!

--Elijah
 
Does & did God for/know of our Choice?? Surely, but His will was to let all choose that knowledge for there self. See Heb. 11:1-2 + Heb. 11:13

You seem to think that we, by our actions of choice, are able to make ourselves sinless.

I am not aware of that being in the selection of choices.

If you and I can look at the reality of mankind and figure out that every last member of the human race sinned other than God Himself in flesh, I think it's reasonable to believe that God kinda figured that out in advance as well.

s
 
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Does & did God for/know of our Choice?? Surely, but His will was to let all choose that knowledge for there self. See Heb. 11:1-2 + Heb. 11:13

You seem to think that we, by our actions of choice, are able to make ourselves sinless.

I am not aware of that being in the selection of choices.

If you and I can look at the reality of mankind and figure out that every last member of the human race sinned other than God Himself in flesh, I think it's reasonable to believe that God kinda figured that out in advance as well.

s

Hi! What one chooses is surely known of God. (like the hairs on ones head are numbered) Rom. 4:17 is a good verse for this, its last part! It says that God can do this because He knows the end from the beginning.
[17] .... and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

But that was not question was it?? It is what do I know? So I will use the same Heb. 1:1-2 + Heb. 1:11. And 'for me' this is so plain that it leaves no room for error. Yet these are just a couple verses. Heb. 6:1-6 & 2 Peter 2:17-22 are even more plainly seen!

Let just post these...

[3] And this will we do, if God permit.
[4] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

And after the Heb. verses come these....

[18] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
[19] While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
[20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
[21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
[22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Surely these are as clear as it is Possible for the Lord to make.

--Elijah
 
Does & did God for/know of our Choice?? Surely, but His will was to let all choose that knowledge for there self. See Heb. 11:1-2 + Heb. 11:13

You seem to think that we, by our actions of choice, are able to make ourselves sinless.

I am not aware of that being in the selection of choices.

If you and I can look at the reality of mankind and figure out that every last member of the human race sinned other than God Himself in flesh, I think it's reasonable to believe that God kinda figured that out in advance as well.

s

Hi! What one chooses is surely known of God. (like the hairs on ones head are numbered) Rom. 4:17 is a good verse for this, its last part! It says that God can do this because He knows the end from the beginning.
[17] .... and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

But that was not question was it?? It is what do I know? So I will use the same Heb. 1:1-2 + Heb. 1:11. And 'for me' this is so plain that it leaves no room for error. Yet these are just a couple verses. Heb. 6:1-6 & 2 Peter 2:17-22 are even more plainly seen!

Let just post these...

[3] And this will we do, if God permit.
[4] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

And after the Heb. verses come these....

[18] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
[19] While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
[20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
[21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
[22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Surely these are as clear as it is Possible for the Lord to make.

--Elijah

PS: You might be interested in 1 John 5:16-17 as well?
 
Does & did God for/know of our Choice?? Surely, but His will was to let all choose that knowledge for there self. See Heb. 11:1-2 + Heb. 11:13

You seem to think that we, by our actions of choice, are able to make ourselves sinless.

I am not aware of that being in the selection of choices.

If you and I can look at the reality of mankind and figure out that every last member of the human race sinned other than God Himself in flesh, I think it's reasonable to believe that God kinda figured that out in advance as well.

s

Hi! What one chooses is surely known of God. (like the hairs on ones head are numbered) Rom. 4:17 is a good verse for this, its last part! It says that God can do this because He knows the end from the beginning.
[17] .... and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

But that was not question was it?? It is what do I know? So I will use the same Heb. 1:1-2 + Heb. 1:11. And 'for me' this is so plain that it leaves no room for error. Yet these are just a couple verses. Heb. 6:1-6 & 2 Peter 2:17-22 are even more plainly seen!

Let just post these...

[3] And this will we do, if God permit.
[4] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

And after the Heb. verses come these....

[18] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
[19] While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
[20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
[21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
[22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Surely these are as clear as it is Possible for the Lord to make.

--Elijah

PS: You might be interested in 1 John 5:16-17 as well?

Me again:
This was the Leader of His One True Fold in the Bible. (Jesus Christ Acts 7:31)
It might be well to see what more Christ has to say in Isaiah 5:4??

--Elijah
 
As it was Christ God in the OT that gave the orders for the executions of the lost choosing to be lost, it was because of their free choice to be lost! Even satans first convert Cain, has Christ God come and tell him what the result would be, do right & will you not be accepted? And if not, sin...??? and to him will be YOUR DESIRE! Did Cain have a choice to make? Was not the Holy Spirit STRIVING with him to do what was right! (Gen. 6:3) And what was the sin?? Offer the 'LAMB' that taketh away the sin of the world, and this was the free choice that was sidestepped for a FRUIT OFFERING that reminds us of todays trash!

And of course James tells us the by breaking even ONE commandment, one when done knowingly, breaks them all! (James 2:8-12) And that this will be our standard of Judgment! (compare Eccl. 12:13-14)

--Elijah
 
Jesus Christ gave all human mankind a free will. And surely He knew what the choice was before hand. From Cain on! It takes time to accept or reject the God Head. Both Abel & Cain were MATURE farmers who had never at any recorded time been told that they were not. But remember whose Holy Spirit was grieved with the flood ones? Gen. 6:3.

See James 1:15 along beside of 1 John 5:16-17 FATAL sin unto death eternal. Let me insert these here. James one says it this way...
[15] Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

And John says it this way...
[1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
[2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
[3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
[4] For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
[5] Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
....
[14] And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
[15] And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

[16] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. [[There is a sin unto death:]] I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[17] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

And these Truths are from John who penned many books of the Bible & ALL FROM what is know as the New Covenant side of the Book. And yet the New Covenant is not more than the 'EXTENDED ' from the Old! As John has it repeated in 1 John 2 saying...
[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

But who reads this? John has it said that it was EXTENDED, making the difference! Otherwise it would be opposite of the Word of Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15, otherwise he would be going against 1 Cor. 14:32.

--Elijah
 
Jesus Christ gave all human mankind a free will.

Paul sure didn't think so. He states Adam was made SUBJECT TO all the below facts, just as we are:

1 Cor. 15:
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made

Freewill? Does any of the above look free anything to you?
- - -
 
Jesus Christ gave all human mankind a free will.

Paul sure didn't think so. He states Adam was made SUBJECT TO all the below facts, just as we are:

1 Cor. 15:
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made

Freewill? Does any of the above look free anything to you?
- - -

And that is your posting???
How about Heb. 6:1-6 & verse 6. (and that surely does not teach that God did not know what one chooses!)
--Elijah
 
Jesus Christ gave all human mankind a free will.

Paul sure didn't think so. He states Adam was made SUBJECT TO all the below facts, just as we are:

1 Cor. 15:
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made

Freewill? Does any of the above look free anything to you?
- - -

And that is your posting???
How about Heb. 6:1-6 & verse 6. (and that surely does not teach that God did not know what one chooses!)
--Elijah

Which has what to do with 'all' of us being planted in weakness, corruption, dishonor and a natural body that 'has sin?'

You think that mentioning Hebrews 6 somehow changes any of those facts?

It doesn't. Or if it does you certainly are not 'explaining' how that might be.

I might say that if we lie to ourselves and deceive ourselves into thinking we no longer sin we have in fact fallen quite headlong into deception. I am not interested in deceiving myself 'in faith.' Many have rich fantasy lives when it comes to standing truthfully before God in matters of sin.

Hebrews also says this is 'factually' how we come before Him:

Hebrews 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

The above is not a 'one time' event. We stand under constant need of 'sprinkling' from our 'factual' evil conscience.

You may think you see 'free' in that. Many don't.

s
 
Jesus Christ gave all human mankind a free will.

Paul sure didn't think so. He states Adam was made SUBJECT TO all the below facts, just as we are:

1 Cor. 15:
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made

Freewill? Does any of the above look free anything to you?
- - -

And that is your posting???
How about Heb. 6:1-6 & verse 6. (and that surely does not teach that God did not know what one chooses!)
--Elijah

Which has what to do with 'all' of us being planted in weakness, corruption, dishonor and a natural body that 'has sin?'

You think that mentioning Hebrews 6 somehow changes any of those facts?

It doesn't. Or if it does you certainly are not 'explaining' how that might be.

I might say that if we lie to ourselves and deceive ourselves into thinking we no longer sin we have in fact fallen quite headlong into deception. I am not interested in deceiving myself 'in faith.' Many have rich fantasy lives when it comes to standing truthfully before God in matters of sin.

Hebrews also says this is 'factually' how we come before Him:

Hebrews 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

The above is not a 'one time' event. We stand under constant need of 'sprinkling' from our 'factual' evil conscience.

You may think you see 'free' in that. Many don't.

s

Then that is just another of your errors that God Created us this way with no hope.
I will never buy into that one!

--Elijah
 
Then that is just another of your errors that God Created us this way with no hope.
I will never buy into that one!

--Elijah

And again, your comment has what to do with my factual observations?

How did you derive from my statements, your comment above???

???

It would be 'helpful' if you think that somehow by having freewill that equates to 'us' having our 'individual' chance or shot at heaven, therefore making God just.

And for what it's worth, one can see the reality of having as Paul did, evil present with him as NOT being free while in this current body and we can also still have hope regardless.

God is not 'in need' of our 'freewill decisions' in order to bless us with Eternal Life. His Life is a dispensed GIFT from Him that we do not, can not and are not 'able' to EARN. It's called GRACE, meaning UNmerited favor. Emphasis on UN.

s
 
Then that is just another of your errors that God Created us this way with no hope.
I will never buy into that one!

--Elijah

And again, your comment has what to do with my factual observations?

How did you derive from my statements, your comment above???

???

It would be 'helpful' if you think that somehow by having freewill that equates to 'us' having our 'individual' chance or shot at heaven, therefore making God just.

And for what it's worth, one can see the reality of having as Paul did, evil present with him as NOT being free while in this current body and we can also still have hope regardless.

God is not 'in need' of our 'freewill decisions' in order to bless us with Eternal Life. His Life is a dispensed GIFT from Him that we do not, can not and are not 'able' to EARN. It's called GRACE, meaning UNmerited favor. Emphasis on UN.

s

satan was the first in rebellion! Well before Eve & Adam were created. WHAT ON EARTH WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE FORBIDDEN TREE THERE IN THE GARDEN for then???

--Elijah
 
satan was the first in rebellion! Well before Eve & Adam were created. WHAT ON EARTH WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE FORBIDDEN TREE THERE IN THE GARDEN for then???

--Elijah

Have you ever considered it was there for the JUDGMENT OF SATAN?

You merely and automatically assume and presume it was only for Adam and Eve?

again I say lol. There is more to see than just what you think you see.

s
 
Just the facts!

Because of Achan's sin 36 men died because of the Christ presence was missing from ALL of Old Israel.
And in VERSE 12 we see it is a fact!

[12] Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed: [[[neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.]]]

And this is from a never changing God! Mal. 3:6
[6] For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

(and)

Heb. 8... 'Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.'

And 'i' have heard enough a NEW COVENANT while John says that it is the same Eternal Covenant that we have always had from the beginning of the creation of Adam! 1 John 2
[8] Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

It is an EXTENSION is all! Eccl. 1:9-0 + Eccl. 3:15

And if you think that this Christ tolerates continued [open sin for long,] you best awaken! (and this is the same God as seen in Acts 7:38!)

Christ is coming back to CLAIM His own, who are trying to OBEY ALL THAT HE ASK'S OF THEM!

--Elijah
 
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