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The meaning of peace

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ChristineES

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Mat 10:34 Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword.
Luk 12:51 Do you suppose that I have come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division.
Joh 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that you might have peace in Me. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.
Rom 2:10 But He will give glory, honor and peace to every man who works good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
1Co 16:11 Therefore let not any despise him, but set him forward in peace, so that he may come to me; for I am waiting for him with the brothers.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,
Eph 2:14 For He is our peace, He making us both one, and He has broken down the middle wall of partition between us,


So, the reader asks, what do the verses above have in common. They each talk about peace. In Galatians 5:22 it says that one of the fruits of The Spirit is peace.
Jesus said in Matthew 10:34 and Luke 12:51 that he came to divide, not to bring peace.
Paul tells the Corinthians to accept Timothy with peace.
So what does peace mean?
Is it the lack of inner turmoil? When one accepts Jesus as his/her savior, they have a peace of mind. In Ephesians 2:14, Paul said that by Jesus blood that the wall between men and God was broken down.
Is it the lack of war? Jesus said there are to be wars, that He was sent to divide.
What does this all mean?
Having God with you brings peace to you. Jesus said often "peace be with you", "go in peace" and more. He also said that men have tribulation in the world, but peace in Him and He who sent Him.
 
ChristineES said:
Mat 10:34 Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword.
Luk 12:51 Do you suppose that I have come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division.
Joh 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that you might have peace in Me. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.
Rom 2:10 But He will give glory, honor and peace to every man who works good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
1Co 16:11 Therefore let not any despise him, but set him forward in peace, so that he may come to me; for I am waiting for him with the brothers.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,
Eph 2:14 For He is our peace, He making us both one, and He has broken down the middle wall of partition between us,


So, the reader asks, what do the verses above have in common. They each talk about peace. In Galatians 5:22 it says that one of the fruits of The Spirit is peace.
Jesus said in Matthew 10:34 and Luke 12:51 that he came to divide, not to bring peace.
Paul tells the Corinthians to accept Timothy with peace.
So what does peace mean?
Is it the lack of inner turmoil? When one accepts Jesus as his/her savior, they have a peace of mind. In Ephesians 2:14, Paul said that by Jesus blood that the wall between men and God was broken down.
Is it the lack of war? Jesus said there are to be wars, that He was sent to divide.
What does this all mean?
Having God with you brings peace to you. Jesus said often "peace be with you", "go in peace" and more. He also said that men have tribulation in the world, but peace in Him and He who sent Him.
It is interesting that those who keep all 10 commandments because they love their Lord Jessu Christ will be the ones who have tribulations, but in their hearts they have peace beyond understanding.....
Psalms 119:165 "Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them".
 
ChristineES said:
Mat 10:34 Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword.
Rightly understood, this Bible verse should clue a person that Christianity, is not easy !
 
It is interesting that those who keep all 10 commandments because they love their Lord Jesus Christ will be the ones who have tribulations, but in their hearts they have peace beyond understanding.....
Psalms 119:165 "Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them".

Peace will be in your spirit, and the tribulations will occur all around you.
 
I have peace, not because I attempt to keep the commandments - because that is impossible. And besides I would be under a curse and for me that would not give me peace.

No, I have peace because Christ has redeemed me from the curse of the law. I am in Christ and He is in me. How can I help but love Him?
 
In Genesis 6:3 we see the STRIVING of the Holy Spirit on ALL of mankind. Do these ones fighting against the third person of the Godhead have peace? No peace until He either quits the striving, or the person surrenders the STUBBORN WILL!

Then what peace has he who surrenders to the Holy Spirits LEADING? Romans 8:14

OK: How about the rest of your quoted verses & great replies! Remember that even though all here are not fully mature, the babes can even have this peace as long as we are 'still' able to be 'LED' of the Holy Ghost.

But when we do not have 'peace' as was quoted, what did that mean? We then have a 'convicted' guilty conscience that God again tries to give peace to, but the 'following' on is our freedom of choice.

There are two kinds of peach mentioned here in the post subject, is there not? The Born Again 'spiritual' mind & a physical body that houses the mind. They are at war against each other after the mind is surrendered.

But the mind is to now [work] & control the body. (not the other way around) This causes one to [MATURE]. (into perfection) This maturity Adam was not created with, but it had to be developed, as was seen by the forbidden tree in the midst of the Garden of Eden.
In Hebrews 12:4-8 we see this process for Christian's only. (v 8) No one Christian is excused from this process. "For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, [and scourgeth every son whom He RECEIVETH]."
So we see that this kind of peace is OBEDIENT 'MENTAL' PEACE only. Now it is true that much of this chastening is brought about by our balking when the Holy Spirit is [trying] to lead us. And it is also true that even the very hard 'duties' that we might be asked (or led to) perform which are real chastisements to us because they are against our 'nature' are also not done? (such as spanking our children)

Yet, the most problematic of mind over body control for maturity, seems to be as God stated in Daniel 7:25. "IF ye LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS".

OK: How long will God wait for His children to make the right 'free will' choices as seen in Genesis 4:7 is the question? Again, remember Hebrews 12:8 with Genesis 4:7 There does come a time that the Holy Spirit will not be felt striving ever again, and that is what happened with mature Cain. He became mature in the wrong direction. Each time we knowingly will not follow the Holy Spirits Leading, we are in grave danger according to Psalm 19:13. :sad
 
mutzrein said:
I have peace, not because I attempt to keep the commandments - because that is impossible.
#1.) Those who keep the commandments, have peace.....
Psalms 119:165 "Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them".

#2.) Impossible for your God maybe....BUT, not mine.....
Mark 10:27 "And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men [it is] impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible".

Jesus Christ said: "IF..you love me, keep my commandments:, (John 14:15).


Believing in Jesus Christ means....to know that HE is able to enable a person to keep the 10 commandments !
 
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