[__ Science __ ] The Mystery of Life

[AIG.com]

What mysterious quality makes a creature alive at one moment but is absent the instant the creature dies?

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[Truthfrees]

What mysterious quality makes a creature alive at one moment but is absent the instant the creature dies?

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the hebrew word for life haim means breathing - as you said God says the life is in the blood - so breathing with blood circulating seems to be God's explanation of what is alive - but as you said life is described no where

 

[Barbarian]

the hebrew word for life haim means breathing - as you said God says the life is in the blood - so breathing with blood circulating seems to be God's explanation of what is alive - but as you said life is described no where

So plants, insects, snails, etc. aren't alive? This is the kind of thing people fall into, when they try to force scripture into a science text.

 

[Truthfrees]

So plants, insects, snails, etc. aren't alive? This is the kind of thing people fall into, when they try to force scripture into a science text.

the op is about creatures with blood and breath- stay in context of the discussion please - if a creature is not breathing or has lost all it's blood it is no longer living

 

[Barbarian]

Only some animals are alive? Insects aren't alive? And plants aren't alive? Jesus says otherwise.

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

If you have to redefine words to make it fit a new doctrine, isn't that a pretty good clue that there's something wrong with that doctrine?

 

[Truthfrees]

Only some animals are alive? Insects aren't alive? And plants aren't alive? Jesus says otherwise.

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

If you have to redefine words to make it fit a new doctrine, isn't that a pretty good clue that there's something wrong with that doctrine?

if you would read the article you would understand - too bad you project your shortcomings on others

 

[Barbarian]

if you would read the article you would understand - too bad you project your shortcomings on others

I'm just pointing out that there are lot of things that are alive that neither breath nor have blood. I just showed you that Jesus cited one of them.

What men have reasoned out, does not refute God's word.

 

[Truthfrees]

I'm just pointing out that there are lot of things that are alive that neither breath nor have blood. I just showed you that Jesus cited one of them.

What men have reasoned out, does not refute God's word.

like we all don't know that? - the accusations added to that fact are the parts that are your projection of self on others

maybe check out your problem with you refuting God's word - reducing it to allegory

 

[jasonc]

chaya,chaim is a conjugation I believe

 

[Barbarian]

I'm just pointing out that there are lot of things that are alive that neither breath nor have blood. I just showed you that Jesus cited one of them.

like we all don't know that?

If you accept Jesus' word on this, then I don't see a problem.

 

[Barbarian]

chaya,chaim is a conjugation I believe

"Chaim" sounds like it should be a plural. Is "chaya" the singular?

 

[jasonc]

"Chaim" sounds like it should be a plural. Is "chaya" the singular?

chaya means life ,

chai isreal ,long live isreal ,nephesh chaya living soul .

chaim is used in other ways I can't remember. its often said by itself .been a while since I seen it my pastor is able to read. and write Yiddish ,and Hebrew and has translated head stones of my family and said the one I showed him,says one thing in English and has Hebrew for here lies the son of Jacob with a few Yiddish words that he needs to see better .I need to resend him that photo .let me post that grave

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F637074559148933120

 

[jasonc]

he is a third cousin ,he would be my grandfather's nephew

 

[Truthfrees]

I'm just pointing out that there are lot of things that are alive that neither breath nor have blood. I just showed you that Jesus cited one of them.



If you accept Jesus' word on this, then I don't see a problem.

as i said we already know that - but you add false claims of us twisting scripture and words when you are the only one that twists God's words to reduce it to allegory - all to prove your false theory of evolution is from God

 

[Barbarian]

as i said we already know that - but you add false claims of us twisting scripture and words when you are the only one that twists God's words to reduce it to allegory

You think that if God uses figurative language that "reduces" it? I don't think so.

all to prove your false theory of evolution is from God

God created all things. Evolution, which we observe happening every day, is no different.

 

[jasonc]

analysis paralysis .

the corona virus or bacteria may breathe or not and still be alive .but not have the breathe Of God

 

[jasonc]

So plants, insects, snails, etc. aren't alive? This is the kind of thing people fall into, when they try to force scripture into a science text.

your analytic mind makes you miss the forest for the trees in it .

Jewish thought isn't meant not did they want it to be an exact desreptive tongue

 

[Truthfrees]

You think that if God uses figurative language that "reduces" it? I don't think so.


God created all things. Evolution, which we observe happening every day, is no different.

God did create all things - mutation is observable today - macro evolution has never been observed

your allegorical twisting of God's word to prove evolution is the issue

 

[Barbarian]

God did create all things - mutation is observable today - macro evolution has never been observed

No, that's wrong too. Perhaps you don't know the difference between "macroevolution" and "microevolution?" Even AiG admits that new species evolve. They just came up with their own definition instead of the scientific definition. The new definition seems to be "evolution so great that no one could hope to observe it in a lifetime."

However, informed and honest creationists admit that there is "very good evidence for macroevolutionary theory."

 

[Barbarian]

your analytic mind makes you miss the forest for the trees in it .

Precision matters in science. I don't have a problem with fuzzy definitions in religion; that's not a problem. But in science, it depends on the data.

Jewish thought isn't meant not did they want it to be an exact desreptive tongue

I get that. I'm just opposed to blurring the distinction between these two equally valid approaches.