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The new world order

Daniel 7;27
And the kingdom and dominion,and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven,shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High,whose kingdom ia an everlasting kingdom,and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

There is the new world order as recorded in scripture.
 
Mat 24;7
For nation shall rise against nation,and kingdom against kingdom;and there shall be pestilences,and earthquakes,in divers places.

Ok.For all you new world oder believers who believe a devided empire will rule the world.What kind of order do you call the verse above?If nation shall rise against nation is order then whats new about it?Its being going on since God knows when.Whats new about war?
 
Mat 24;7
For nation shall rise against nation,and kingdom against kingdom;and there shall be pestilences,and earthquakes,in divers places.

Ok.For all you new world oder believers who believe a devided empire will rule the world.What kind of order do you call the verse above?If nation shall rise against nation is order then whats new about it?Its being going on since God knows when.Whats new about war?

Nothings new about war.

The new world order is about control. I'ts about a hierarchical order out of chaos.

Ordo Ab Chao - Order out of chaos.

The nations and kingdoms dont have anything to do with the new world order control. They are pawns in the game. They are played off against eachother. It's who's running those knigdoms that are part of the control system. The kings!

And what does scripture say about the kings in the end times?

17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
 
Yes. Post them.... IN CONTEXT. I'm sure you'll start with George W. Bush, since his was one of the most recent "claims." I even remember the speech myself.

Ok I'll give you some quotes if you wanna refute them using a broader context than go ahead.

Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. President George Bush's to Congress March 6, 1991

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)


"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Herbert Walker Bush

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasnt such a great idea after all." Strobe Talbot, President Clintons Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFRs journal, Foreign Affairs.

 
Torch said:
As strangelove pointed out... History is writen by the winners. And there is a very good reason for that. They deserve to write history. They won.

So....whoever manages to wipe out their enemy using violence gets to decide what is taught in our schools. We've established that. And you think thats righteous?

Torch said:
Think about this: If there really was a new world order of illuminati that has been established and is trying to control the world in secret, then why aren't they silencing the people who are talking about them in very public forums? Turn on Discovery Channel or go on the internet or go to a section in Barnes and Nobel and you can find books and programs talking about this kind of stuff, regardless of how little sense it makes. The names of the speakers/authors are right there, as is all their information. If the alleged illuminati wants to remain secret, why don't these powerful people silence those talking about them? It should be no problem. They obviously control all aspects of the media and the government. Wipe these cats off the face of the Earth.

What are the elite going to silence literally millions of awakened researchers? From the internet forums? Lolz....half of whoms IP adresses probably lead to internet cafes and librarys etc?

They do kill the really dangerous people but it only shines a light on that victims work. William Cooper is a good example. They may have learnt their lesson there. Other high profile researchers are sometimes duped into discrediting their own info so they leave them alone....(David Icke). Others are subtly controlled and guided to keep their chat away from the higher eschelons like the Zionists and the Jesuits....(Alex Jones)...or he may just be scared to go that high up....and thus left alone.

Torch said:
If the Catholic church is some demonic cult, then how did all the other branches of Christianity spring out of it? Baptist, Luthern, Presbyterian (I hope I spelled that right), etc. Are you saying that for centuries, there was no true Christian church, and all of a sudden.... poof! Its back? Please tell me that this isn't going to lead to the "Trail of Blood" fairytale.

They didnt spring from the Catholic church. They escaped it's grasp. There have always been true Christians from the crucifixtion onwards.
 
The United Nations

The U.N. Charter and constitution is a thin paraphrasing of the Soviet model which Alger Hiss borrowed from when he coauthored it. The U.N. constitution is therefore a Marxist socialist paradigm.

World regionalism is spelled out clearly in the U.N. Charter, Chapters 8 through 11, using such terms as "regional arrangements, intergovernmental agreements, and metropolital areas." Advocates of one-world socialism have already divided the world into 85 regions for policing purposes. In adopting the U.N. Charter, Congress has established the Charter as the Supreme Law of the land (Fugi v. State of California, 1950-52).

Following are just some of the policies of the United Nations:

-Control of all zoning matters in the United States and the control of our national parks, rivers and historical sites.

-Control over whether women are allowed to have babies.


-Control over the economic and judicial policies of all nations.

-Programs are being processed to create a tax on citizens of the United States as a permanent method of UN funding.

-The United Nation has its own Army and United States soldiers must swear allegiance to this foreign government. Remember Michael New.

United Nations | New World Order
 
So....whoever manages to wipe out their enemy using violence gets to decide what is taught in our schools. We've established that. And you think thats righteous?

So whoever wins a war, debate, or any other contest should immediately state where they're wrong, even when its not the case? What better solution do you have? The reasons these groups went to war was to show who was or wasn't right. Until history shows the winners to have been in the wrong, this is how it is done.


What are the elite going to silence literally millions of awakened researchers? From the internet forums? Lolz....half of whoms IP adresses probably lead to internet cafes and librarys etc?

Yep. You see, first off there aren't millions of nut jobs ..... er, awakend researchers (same difference). There is a hand full. and if this group is as powerful as you say they are (considering they exist, which we know for fact that they don't partially because you have given no proof otherwise), then they could easily do exactly that. Wipe all of the information about them off the planet, keep television programs about them from being aired, stop books about them from being published, and simply squash them. Its simple. [/quote]

They do kill the really dangerous people but it only shines a light on that victims work. William Cooper is a good example. They may have learnt their lesson there. Other high profile researchers are sometimes duped into discrediting their own info so they leave them alone....(David Icke). Others are subtly controlled and guided to keep their chat away from the higher eschelons like the Zionists and the Jesuits....(Alex Jones)...or he may just be scared to go that high up....and thus left alone.

Sure they do. So, if they only kill the really "dangerous" people, but that action only serves to shine a light on their work, then they must not be too bright in how they go about things. Kind of sad for a group that is supposed to be so powerful, they are posed to take over the world. They should really be more careful. lol



They didnt spring from the Catholic church. They escaped it's grasp. There have always been true Christians from the crucifixtion onwards.

Yeah. They came from the Christian church (which is now the Catholic church). No church "escaped its grasp." Unless you're talking about a bunch of Gnostic and heretical churches which are no longer in existance. Every true Christian church in existance can trace its roots back to the original Christian church, and the point where it eventually broke off and started its own denomination.
 
So whoever wins a war, debate, or any other contest should immediately state where they're wrong, even when its not the case? What better solution do you have? The reasons these groups went to war was to show who was or wasn't right. Until history shows the winners to have been in the wrong, this is how it is done.

Whats my solution?

Uhm.....don't believe everything you are taught in school. Research the reasons that countries go to war on your own instead of simply parroting what you're government wants you to think. i.e. which ideology is right and which is wrong.

Governement wants you to think:

Royalty Vs Common man

Communism Vs Democracy

Freedom Vs Terrorism

Christianity Vs Islam

The real reasons for war are:

Control of natural resources

Control of the governments own populations

Control of geopolitically important areas

War profiteering etc.

Yep. You see, first off there aren't millions of nut jobs ..... er, awakend researchers (same difference). There is a hand full. and if this group is as powerful as you say they are (considering they exist, which we know for fact that they don't partially because you have given no proof otherwise), then they could easily do exactly that. Wipe all of the information about them off the planet, keep television programs about them from being aired, stop books about them from being published, and simply squash them. Its simple.

Why do they need to? Even if there's only a few million people who actually know what's going on...that leaves the other 6 billion odd sheople wandering around in total obliviousness to the new world order. They know full well that most people have no intention of actually researching this stuff and finding out the truth and even when they come face to face with the evidence of the NWO they will totally ignore it and attempt to ridicule those who provide it. As you have done here.

Did I say somewhere that these people are powerful? No....I just said they were numerous. So now you've started putting words in peoples mouth. Not a good start. And also you want proof of the numbers of internet users who know about the NWO?? Uhm..thats askin' a bit much but..to start you off...you could type in 'new world order' into google and see that you get over 500 million hits. And then run through the pages and see how many independant websites there are covering it. You should get a rough idea bud.

Sure they do. So, if they only kill the really "dangerous" people, but that action only serves to shine a light on their work, then they must not be too bright in how they go about things. Kind of sad for a group that is supposed to be so powerful, they are posed to take over the world. They should really be more careful. lol

Like I said they probably learn from that and prefer to simply discredit people now. Course theres always ways to kill people and make it look like an accident or suicide. Dr. David Kelly for example.

Sure they make mistakes, they are human after all.

Yeah. They came from the Christian church (which is now the Catholic church). No church "escaped its grasp." Unless you're talking about a bunch of Gnostic and heretical churches which are no longer in existance. Every true Christian church in existance can trace its roots back to the original Christian church, and the point where it eventually broke off and started its own denomination.

What about Christians who don't have a denomination like me?

The true Church has got nothing to do with tracing roots back to any institution or organization. It's simple faith in Christ.

Can I ask at this point if you are a believer Torch?
 
Mat 24;7
For nation shall rise against nation,and kingdom against kingdom;and there shall be pestilences,and earthquakes,in divers places.

Ok.For all you new world oder believers who believe a devided empire will rule the world.What kind of order do you call the verse above?If nation shall rise against nation is order then whats new about it?Its being going on since God knows when.Whats new about war?

Read Matt. 6:23. The verse has just TWO groups! [Who says] that these ones will ever get along & will be anything other than satans fold?? But satan fold they are and will be! Got that???

--Elijah
 
Ok I'll give you some quotes if you wanna refute them using a broader context than go ahead.

Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. President George Bush's to Congress March 6, 1991

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)


"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Herbert Walker Bush

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasnt such a great idea after all." Strobe Talbot, President Clintons Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFRs journal, Foreign Affairs.


You can quote everyone you want saying there shall be a new world order.
But none of those are in the scripture .There is only one new world order in the scriptures and that is the order of God and Christ.That is the new world order to come.There is no other.

Daniel 7;27
And the kingdom and dominion,and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven,shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High,whose kingdom ia an everlasting kingdom,and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

This is the new world order and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

You new world order doctrin only blinds the eyes of those who cant understand .
The beast has already come forth but your doctrin has everyone looking elsewhere for the beast insted of where it is.The promised land.
 
Whats my solution?

Uhm.....don't believe everything you are taught in school. Research the reasons that countries go to war on your own instead of simply parroting what you're government wants you to think. i.e. which ideology is right and which is wrong.

Governement wants you to think:

Royalty Vs Common man

Communism Vs Democracy

Freedom Vs Terrorism

Christianity Vs Islam

The real reasons for war are:

Control of natural resources

Control of the governments own populations

Control of geopolitically important areas

War profiteering etc.

OK. Since I've done more research on history than you'll ever encounter and found that most of what I was taught in school is correct and that you still have no proof of anything you've said, now what?

I'll make no arguments about your reasons for wars, however. Those are completely solid. However, some of the reasons you listed as "what government wants you to think" actually fall into the areas that you listed as "why wars are actually fought." For example, "Royalty vs Common Class" is simply an example of a war being fought for control of resources... in this case, wealth.




Why do they need to? Even if there's only a few million people who actually know what's going on...that leaves the other 6 billion odd sheople wandering around in total obliviousness to the new world order. They know full well that most people have no intention of actually researching this stuff and finding out the truth and even when they come face to face with the evidence of the NWO they will totally ignore it and attempt to ridicule those who provide it. As you have done here.

I've done far more than attempt. I've succeded. Again, you haven't provided ANY truth... any facts. Nothing. Your argument is a shell with no walnut. Furtive Fallacy, as I said in another threat. The belief that every event in history that has ever occured has some more sinister or evil significance hidden behind it.

Did I say somewhere that these people are powerful? No....I just said they were numerous. So now you've started putting words in peoples mouth. Not a good start. And also you want proof of the numbers of internet users who know about the NWO?? Uhm..thats askin' a bit much but..to start you off...you could type in 'new world order' into google and see that you get over 500 million hits. And then run through the pages and see how many independant websites there are covering it. You should get a rough idea bud.

I need to get a rough idea? Son, you're the one talking gibberish.

First off, you don't have to say that these people are powerful. You're very comments about them make it such. If these people are setting up for control of the world and are in high-ranking political positions throughout the world as you claim, then they MUST be powerful. Otherwise, how is their alleged New World Order going to come into being? There has to be money and power behind this shadow organization, or it will have no pull. That's just logic.

As for having over 500 million hits on a google search about the "new world order" (and I'll give you that it is that high... I tried it), big deal. How much of that is about the actual New World Order that we're discussing here? How much is about professional wrestling's various "New World Order" groups? How much of it is ebay sales, and stuff from the same website by the same kook living in his mom's basement, and parodies about such subjects on Onion.com-like sites, and so on. I can type in "UFO" and get over 60,000,000 hits, but that doesn't mean that space aliens exist.




What about Christians who don't have a denomination like me?

The true Church has got nothing to do with tracing roots back to any institution or organization. It's simple faith in Christ.

Can I ask at this point if you are a believer Torch?

Even Christians who don't have a faith like you had to come from a family somewhere that DID have a demonition, unless you are either:

A) Over 2,000 years old, or

B) Can accurately trace your roots all the way back to the time shortly after Christ's death and show that your ancestors didn't belong to any denomination.

For the record, I don't believe that I have claimed at any point in here that everyone HAS to belong to a specific church or denomination. The fact that you don't ascribe to one doesn't make you any less of a Christian than I am. My simple statement is that all of the Christian denominations can trace the roots of their church back to one common starting point.

As of whether or not I am a believer, yes, I am. I believe in the saving power of God through the sacrafice of His only Son, Jesus Christ, upon the cross. I have long since accepted that.
 
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You can quote everyone you want saying there shall be a new world order.
But none of those are in the scripture .There is only one new world order in the scriptures and that is the order of God and Christ.That is the new world order to come.There is no other.

So every political organisation in history has to be in the bible or it doesnt exist?

Can you show me the European Union in scripture? If you can't then it doesn't exist.

What a terrible argument. we are allowed to use our eyes and ears as well as scripture Shilo.

You have always ignored Rev 17:2.

It's proof that the Kings get their orders from one source. You keep denying.
 
OK. Since I've done more research on history than you'll ever encounter and found that most of what I was taught in school is correct and that you still have no proof of anything you've said, now what?

Uhm....yeah I noticed you've conveniantly passed by the post with all the quotes that proves the NWO exists...fromthe horses mouth. what proof do you want exactly?

I'll make no arguments about your reasons for wars, however. Those are completely solid. However, some of the reasons you listed as "what government wants you to think" actually fall into the areas that you listed as "why wars are actually fought." For example, "Royalty vs Common Class" is simply an example of a war being fought for control of resources... in this case, wealth.

The things that make people fight is the ideology. It's what brainwashes nations. Invasion of Afghanistan is a perfect example.

I've done far more than attempt. I've succeded. Again, you haven't provided ANY truth... any facts. Nothing. Your argument is a shell with no walnut. Furtive Fallacy, as I said in another threat. The belief that every event in history that has ever occured has some more sinister or evil significance hidden behind it.

Again you bear false witness. I never said that. Some facts remain in the quotes post whever you wish to address it.

You're premise is that the NWO doesn't exist. The quotes are facts that show otherwise. Your move.

I need to get a rough idea? Son, you're the one talking gibberish.

Wow...uhm...you're incredibly rude.

First off, you don't have to say that these people are powerful. You're very comments about them make it such. If these people are setting up for control of the world and are in high-ranking political positions throughout the world as you claim, then they MUST be powerful. Otherwise, how is their alleged New World Order going to come into being? There has to be money and power behind this shadow organization, or it will have no pull. That's just logic.

Oh sorry my bad. The way you worded it I thought you were referring to awakened researchers as powerful. Yes the Brotherhood of Zionist controllers behind the scenes are incredibly powerful and use many methods to control the masses. They don't care who knows about them. They know it will only ever be a vast minority who will probably never do anything about it except for share the info with others. Like me. We are not a danger to them. Very high profile people who expose them are sometimes dealt with.

As for having over 500 million hits on a google search about the "new world order" (and I'll give you that it is that high... I tried it), big deal. How much of that is about the actual New World Order that we're discussing here? How much is about professional wrestling's various "New World Order" groups? How much of it is ebay sales, and stuff from the same website by the same kook living in his mom's basement, and parodies about such subjects on Onion.com-like sites, and so on. I can type in "UFO" and get over 60,000,000 hits, but that doesn't mean that space aliens exist.

You wanted to see how many people are sharing information about this. You have seen there are MANY. Wrestling? Huh?

Even Christians who don't have a faith like you had to come from a family somewhere that DID have a demonition, unless you are either:

A) Over 2,000 years old, or

B) Can accurately trace your roots all the way back to the time shortly after Christ's death and show that your ancestors didn't belong to any denomination.

How about a lifelong aethiest who reads the Bible and comes to the faith? what 'family' do they come from?

For the record, I don't believe that I have claimed at any point in here that everyone HAS to belong to a specific church or denomination. The fact that you don't ascribe to one doesn't make you any less of a Christian than I am. My simple statement is that all of the Christian denominations can trace the roots of their church back to one common starting point.

Ok but that doesnt include all Christians. Thats just the organized religious institutions. What was the point in all this? I can't remember how this is relevant to a NWO?

As of whether or not I am a believer, yes, I am. I believe in the saving power of God through the sacrafice of His only Son, Jesus Christ, upon the cross. I have long since accepted that.

Amen.

So you'll admit that conspiracies do exist as there are many in the bible correct?
 
Global Governance 2025 - At a Critical Juncture

The United States’ National Intelligence Council (NIC) and the European Union’s Institute for Security Studies (EUISS) have joined forces to produce this assessment of the long-term prospects for global governance frameworks. This exercise builds on the experience of the two institutions in identifying the key trends shaping the future international system.

http://www.acus.org/files/publication_pdfs/403/Global_Governance_2025.pdf

Does this count as evidence/proof Torch?

Or is a Global Government still a myth?
 
So every political organisation in history has to be in the bible or it doesnt exist?

Can you show me the European Union in scripture? If you can't then it doesn't exist.

What a terrible argument. we are allowed to use our eyes and ears as well as scripture Shilo.

You have always ignored Rev 17:2.

It's proof that the Kings get their orders from one source. You keep denying.

Im not ignoring rev 17;2.
Just because they have inteligence with her doesnt mean she is over all of them.
The ten kings cant touch Babylon till the 70 years have been accomplished but she free game to them after that.Then they can destroy her. I would say Iran will have its nukes just intime too.
PS
Iran claims to have deliverd it first batch of yellow cake the other day.Did you see the news?
Your new world order better come quickly cause the Meeds is going to burn Babylon.
 
Im not ignoring rev 17;2.
Just because they have inteligence with her doesnt mean she is over all of them.

So we have the Whore of Babylon. The satanic controllers of the Earth from all of history. SITTING on the beast with its horns who are kings who fornicate with the whore. And you don't think she controls them?

The ten kings cant touch Babylon till the 70 years have been accomplished but she free game to them after that.Then they can destroy her. I would say Iran will have its nukes just intime too.
PS
Iran claims to have deliverd it first batch of yellow cake the other day.Did you see the news?
Your new world order better come quickly cause the Meeds is going to burn Babylon.

The NWO is already here friend. The only thing left is for the mask to be ripped off the man of sin.
 
God sends a strong dellusion, any one like to explain what this strong dellusion could be.

Its written the whole world goes after the beast, worships his image takes his mark,

If this is not a world order, then i do not know what is,

and it certainly aint Gods.

Man not only has the power to destroy the planet , ie nuclear, netron ect,

but every thing is in place, being put in place, moving towards cenralization, a world goverment, very much in play already, world bank also ect.

micro chipping becoming more of a possability.

There was a proffeser in a univercity in America who in 1975/6 discovered an internet behind the internet, he said who ever has control of this can have control, fianacial control over the masses,

beyond any thing stalin dreamt of.

It has also been disclosed that some goverment departments, parts of the military complex, are 50 years ahead of main stream.

Google jessie ventura he was a govener in America, Jessie Ventura The end game.

Also in the vidoe you will see some one who explains who has been in the inner circle, and talks of the coming agenda,s of the ruling elite, war in the middle East, depopulation also using pandemics, viruses.

Exposed all the holding centres, consentration camps in America, one on a 11,000 acre site, thats alot of holding capacity, who do the powers to be , plan to be putting into these holding centres. ?

designed also for families. why are there thousands of caskets coffins stock pilled in the US.

Whose list are you on, exposed also, all the fusion centres that gather intellegence on the US population.

whose spying on you.

I have seen other vidoes of train carrages, full of benches, with chains, ready to come into use.

The water conspiracy also very intresting Jessie Ventura and his team uncother some alarming facts about the control of water supplies, also a psychotic drug, that can be added to water.

Also a women gives testemony, a nuclear sceientist, about the uraniam and other chemicals in the water, that cause sterlization.

All is exposed on the short vidoes, the problem with the christian comunity, often out of touch with reality and the real world, inward in their thinking and perspective.

do not have a clue what is going on in the world all around them, they wont see it coming until the net closes,

its like stalking a deer, you keep consealed, but you are there. like the wind cannot been seen, but the trail of devestation after the storm, can been.

playing church aint going to cut the mustard, the Church on the whole is completly unprepared, for what will unfold, even written about in scripture,

think of the implications if you can not buy or sell, and at the same time being pursed hunted, by those who have taken the mark, and serve the beast,

work while you have the light, time opportunity, as night, darkness COMES, when no man can work, awake oh sleeper, rise from the dead, and the Lord will shine on you. johnny
 
So we have the Whore of Babylon. The satanic controllers of the Earth from all of history. SITTING on the beast with its horns who are kings who fornicate with the whore. And you don't think she controls them?



The NWO is already here friend. The only thing left is for the mask to be ripped off the man of sin.

Like I said.Those ten kings cant do anything till the 70 years have been accomplished.Then they will burn her with fire.
Yes for now she can do as she wishes with those muslim nations.If they try to fight against the beast now they would just lose.The word of God says they must serve the king of Babylon for 70 years and after 70 years have been accomplished ,those nations shall serve themselves of him.
Thats why the beast knoweth he has but a short time.
The timimg is about perfect for Iran(the meeds) would acqire nukes about that time.
 
Whose list are you on, exposed also, all the fusion centres that gather intellegence on the US population. whose spying on you.

I've heard of fusion centres. This is horrendous. The net really closing. All agancies involved INCLUDING private companies also with their intel. Also tip hotlines for the public to rat on their nighbours. It's like Nazi Germany. this is the police state.

playing church aint going to cut the mustard, the Church on the whole is completly unprepared, for what will unfold, even written about in scripture,

Amen buddy. We need to be well rounded Christians and be aware of whats happening in the world.
 
God sends a strong dellusion, any one like to explain what this strong dellusion could be.

Its written the whole world goes after the beast, worships his image takes his mark,

If this is not a world order, then i do not know what is,

and it certainly aint Gods.

Man not only has the power to destroy the planet , ie nuclear, netron ect,

but every thing is in place, being put in place, moving towards cenralization, a world goverment, very much in play already, world bank also ect.

micro chipping becoming more of a possability.

There was a proffeser in a univercity in America who in 1975/6 discovered an internet behind the internet, he said who ever has control of this can have control, fianacial control over the masses,

beyond any thing stalin dreamt of.

It has also been disclosed that some goverment departments, parts of the military complex, are 50 years ahead of main stream.

Google jessie ventura he was a govener in America, Jessie Ventura The end game.

Also in the vidoe you will see some one who explains who has been in the inner circle, and talks of the coming agenda,s of the ruling elite, war in the middle East, depopulation also using pandemics, viruses.

Exposed all the holding centres, consentration camps in America, one on a 11,000 acre site, thats alot of holding capacity, who do the powers to be , plan to be putting into these holding centres. ?

designed also for families. why are there thousands of caskets coffins stock pilled in the US.

Whose list are you on, exposed also, all the fusion centres that gather intellegence on the US population.

whose spying on you.

I have seen other vidoes of train carrages, full of benches, with chains, ready to come into use.

The water conspiracy also very intresting Jessie Ventura and his team uncother some alarming facts about the control of water supplies, also a psychotic drug, that can be added to water.

Also a women gives testemony, a nuclear sceientist, about the uraniam and other chemicals in the water, that cause sterlization.

All is exposed on the short vidoes, the problem with the christian comunity, often out of touch with reality and the real world, inward in their thinking and perspective.

do not have a clue what is going on in the world all around them, they wont see it coming until the net closes,

its like stalking a deer, you keep consealed, but you are there. like the wind cannot been seen, but the trail of devestation after the storm, can been.

playing church aint going to cut the mustard, the Church on the whole is completly unprepared, for what will unfold, even written about in scripture,

think of the implications if you can not buy or sell, and at the same time being pursed hunted, by those who have taken the mark, and serve the beast,

work while you have the light, time opportunity, as night, darkness COMES, when no man can work, awake oh sleeper, rise from the dead, and the Lord will shine on you. johnny

Johnny ,the beast has already come and people from all over the world followed after it.Have been for 60 years now.Others look at it and wander.No ,itsanot a world order.In fact its quite small.The scripture calls it a little horn.
But those around it cant fight against it.Many have tryed and failed.They saiy who is like it?Who can make war with it?It calls itself Israel and it decieves all thgose who have followed after it.All those whos names are not written in the Lambs book of life.
As for the mark of the beast.Accoirding to the scripture it shall be placesd in Judea.The scripture doesnt say it will be anywhere else.Jesus said it would be in Judea.Its called the abomination of desolation.


The churches are still waiting for the beast to appear because they dont understand what the beast is.
 
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