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Bible Study The Spirit in the Bible

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Many try to interpret the spirit as the soul and that it survives death. However, the two words ‘soul’ and ‘spirit’ cannot be used interchangeably, nor does either refer to something that is immortal. This “spirit†is not conscious or immortal, but the life spark that keeps us alive. It is the Hebrew, “ruach†, which is translated into English as ‘breath’, ‘life force’ and ‘wind’.

The Bible says that all creatures have the breath of life. The essence of life that God gave at creation is in us. Look at what happens when man dies.

Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it – Ecclesiastes 12:7

But man dieth, and wasteth away. Yea, man giveth up the ghost (spirit) and where is he? – Job 14:10

Notice the same reference to be used for Christ dying on the cross and Stephen being stoned.

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit. And having said thus, he gave up the ghost – Luke 23:46

And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus receive my spirit – Acts 7:59

What is this spirit or ‘ghost’ and is it immortal? Notice the next verse in Acts 7

And he kneeled down and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this he fell asleep – vs 60

Also notice the remaining verses of Job 14 when he says ‘man gives up the ghost’.

So man lieth down and riseth not till the heavens be no more. They shall not awake nor be raised out of their sleep – Job 14:12

To Job, giving up the ghost meant that you died and as Solomon said, “the thoughts perishâ€Â. If you look in other translations for when it says Jesus ‘gave up the ghost’ it says, “And Jesus breathed his last.†We know that Christ did not go to heaven in any form but like he promised, was raised from the grave. He told Mary, "Touch me not for I have not yet ascended to my Father." His giving up the ghost was Him breathing His last. This is taken straight from the OT and is not meant to mean something that survives death. This spirit is nothing more than the breath of life given by God at creation.

All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils – Job 27:3

Hebrew parallelism in this verse (where the same thought is expressed and reiterated another way) shows that this breath of life is the spirit God gave us. As a matter of fact, death is creation in reverse. God makes a body, breaths the spark of life into him and man becomes a living soul. Then at death, the body returns to earth, the life spark back to God who gave it and the soul perishes. Just as man was unconscious until God breathed life into him, so when that spark leaves, he becomes unconscious again.

The problem with the traditional Christian view of man’s nature is that the words ‘soul’ and ‘spirit’ are used interchangeably to talk about the same thing: that man has an essence that survives death. However, the ‘soul’ and ‘spirit’ are not the same thing, neither is either immortal. Rather, the Bible teaches that both are an essential component of man. When one ceases to exist, so does the rest. Think of it as a light bulb.

Lightbulb (body)+electric spark (spirit) = light (soul)

When I shut off the light, that spark is gone, the light dies and an empty bulb-shell remains. The spark is not existing somewhere else. At the resurrection, this breath of life is breathed in to man again but man is raised immortal (1 Corinthians 15:51-56)
 
Soul & Spirit

Good thoughts to meditate on.

  • Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active and
    sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the
    division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able
    to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
    NASU
...R
 
Re: Soul & Spirit

Restin said:
Good thoughts to meditate on.

  • Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active and
    sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the
    division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able
    to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
    NASU
...R

Interesting that you should mention this verse, Restin. Notice that this verse explains itself: division of soul (the whole person life and body) and spirit is explained in the next section: "of both joints and marrow and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

The soul is the seat of emotion, feeling and thought of the person. The body is just the body. Our inner workings of the heart is translated as soul because the soul is a thinking, breathing, feeling person. The breath of life makes us a thinking being which gives us our personality. These terms are used in the scripture to further explain the wholism, composite man.

These things are definitely not immortal either. When we die, our brain function dies and "all our thoughts perish" (Psalms 146:4) when our spirit leaves (James 2:26).
 
Think of the soul as an organ made up of three other organs, that together make up the human virtue.

The soul is comprised of the mind, emotion, and will.

The heart includes the soul but also the conscience, which is the leading part of the spirit of a man, a sort of doorway between the soul and spirit,

Originally, man was created to be lead by the spirt, but in four stages, man fell from the spirit to the conscience, from conscience to soul, and then finally from the soul to the flesh.

This flesh is not the physical body, it is the issue of the mingling of man with Satan.

Here are some notes I that helped me....

Hebrews 4:12 - The foregoing verses describe the children of Israel as falling away from entering into the rest of the good land. With them there were three places: (1) Egypt, from which they were delivered; (2) the wilderness, in which they wandered; and (3) Canaan, into which they entered. Their history in these three places signifies the three stages of their participation in God's full salvation. This is a type of us, the New Testament believers, in our participation in the full salvation of God. In the first stage we receive Christ and are redeemed and delivered from the world. In the second stage we become wanderers in following the Lord; our wandering always takes place in our soul. In the third stage we partake of and enjoy Christ in a full way; this is experienced in our spirit. When we pursue the pleasures of material and sinful things, we are in the world, typified by Egypt. When we wander in our soul, we are in the wilderness. When we enjoy Christ in our spirit, we are in Canaan. When the Israelites were wandering in the wilderness, they were always murmuring, reasoning, and chiding. This surely took place in their soul, not in their spirit. But Caleb and Joshua believed in the word of God, obeyed the Lord, and pressed toward the goal. This surely took place not in their soul but in their spirit. At that time the receivers of this book, the Hebrew believers, were wondering what they should do with their old Hebrew religion. This wondering in their mind was a wandering in their soul, not an experience of Christ in their spirit. So the writer of this book said that the word of God, i.e., what was quoted from the Old Testament, could pierce into their wondering like a sharp two-edged sword and divide their soul from their spirit. As the marrow is concealed deep in the joints, so the spirit is deep in the soul. The dividing of the marrow from the joints requires mainly the breaking of the joints. In the same principle, the dividing of the spirit from the soul requires the breaking of the soul. The Hebrew believers' soul, with its wondering mind, its doubting concerning God's way of salvation, and its considering of its own interests, had to be broken by the living, operative, and piercing word of God that their spirit might be divided from their soul.

Hebrews 4:12 - Our soul is our very self (Matt. 16:25; cf. Luke 9:25). In following the Lord we must deny our soul, our very self (Matt. 16:24; Luke 9:23). Our spirit is the deepest part of our being, a spiritual organ with which we contact God (John 4:24; Rom. 1:9). It is in our spirit that we are regenerated (John 3:6). It is in our spirit that the Holy Spirit dwells and works (Rom. 8:16). It is in our spirit that we enjoy Christ and His grace (2 Tim. 4:22; Gal. 6:18). Hence, the writer of this book advised the Hebrew believers not to stagger in the wandering of their soul, which soul they had to deny, but to press on into their spirit to partake of and enjoy the heavenly Christ that they might participate in the kingdom rest of His reign in the millennium. If they staggered in the wandering of their soul, they would miss God's goal and suffer the loss of the full enjoyment of Christ and the kingdom rest.

Hebrews 4:12 - Our spirit is the organ with which we contact God (John 4:24), while our heart is the organ with which we love God (Mark 12:30). Our spirit contacts, receives, contains, and experiences God. However, this requires that our heart love God first. Our soul is of three parts  mind, will, and emotion; and our spirit too is of three parts  conscience, fellowship, and intuition. Our heart is not separate from our soul and spirit but is a composition of all the parts of our soul, plus the conscience, a part of our spirit. Hence, in our heart is the mind, with the thoughts, and the will, with the intentions. The thoughts affect the intentions, and the intentions carry out the thoughts. The living word of God is able to discern the thoughts in our mind and the intentions in our will. What was quoted from the word of God by the writer in the foregoing verses was able to expose what and where the thoughts and intentions of the Hebrew believers were while they were staggering in the process of their salvation.

Hebrews 10:39 - Or, saving, preserving, possessing. Our being is of three parts  spirit, soul, and body (1 Thes. 5:23), and our soul is different from our spirit. At the time that we believed in the Lord Jesus and were saved, our spirit was regenerated with the Spirit of God (John 3:6). But we must wait until the Lord Jesus comes back for our body to be redeemed, saved, and transfigured (Rom. 8:23-25; Phil. 3:21). Concerning the saving, or gaining, of our soul, it depends on how we deal with our soul in following the Lord after we are saved and regenerated. If we lose our soul now for the Lord's sake, we will save it (Matt. 16:25; Luke 9:24; 17:33; John 12:25; 1 Pet. 1:9), and it will be saved, or gained, at the Lord's coming back (v. 37). This gaining of the soul will be the reward (v. 35) of the kingdom to the overcoming followers of the Lord (Matt. 16:22-28).

1 Thessalonians 5:23 - This word strongly indicates that man is of three parts: spirit, soul, and body. The spirit as our inmost part is the inner organ, possessing God-consciousness, that we may contact God (John 4:24; Rom. 1:9). The soul is our very self (cf. Matt. 16:26; Luke 9:25), a medium between our spirit and our body, possessing self-consciousness, that we may have our personality. The body as our external part is the outer organ, possessing world-consciousness, that we may contact the material world. The body contains the soul, and the soul is the vessel that contains the spirit. In the spirit, God as the Spirit dwells; in the soul, our self dwells; and in the body, the physical senses dwell. God sanctifies us, first, by taking possession of our spirit through regeneration (John 3:5-6); second, by spreading Himself as the life-giving Spirit from our spirit into our soul to saturate and transform our soul (Rom. 12:2; 2 Cor. 3:18); and last, by enlivening our mortal body through our soul (Rom. 8:11, 13) and transfiguring our body by His life power (Phil. 3:21). See notes 122 and 123 in Heb. 4.

Galatians 5:19 - The flesh is the expression of the old Adam. The fallen life of the old Adam is expressed practically in the flesh, and the works of the flesh, such as those listed in vv. 19-21, are different aspects of such a fleshly expression. Fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, bouts of drunkenness, and carousings are related to the lust of the corrupted body. Enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, divisions, sects, and envyings are related to the fallen soul, which is very closely related to the corrupted body. Idolatry and sorcery are related to the deadened spirit. This proves that the three parts of our fallen being  body, soul, and spirit  are all involved with the corrupted, evil flesh.

Ephesians 3:17 - Our heart is composed of all the parts of our soul  mind, emotion, and will  plus our conscience, the main part of our spirit. These parts are the inward parts of our being. Through regeneration Christ came into our spirit (2 Tim. 4:22). After this, we should allow Him to spread into every part of our heart. Since our heart is the totality of all our inward parts and the center of our inward being, when Christ makes His home in our heart, He controls our entire inward being and supplies and strengthens every inward part with Himself.


Hope some of this helps.

In love,
cj
 
Spirit of ---

There is a 'spirit' to every action of the mind/body

Here are a few examples from the NASU
  • Isaiah 19:14 a spirit of distortion
    Isaiah 29:10 a spirit of deep sleep
    Isaiah 61:3 a spirit of fainting
    Jeremiah 51:1 spirit of a destroyer
    Hosea 4:12 & 5:4 spirit of harlotry
    Acts 16:6 spirit of divination
    1 Timothy 5:21 spirit of partiality
cj, your comparrisons about the children of Israel, were 'different'.
At least, give us something to ponder over in our minds!

Another idea is that of the temple services
......(A--the beginning christian) is respresnted by the Outer Court
......(B--the youth/adult) the first compartment of the temple
......(C--Maturity) the most Holy Place of the sanctuary

.......Restin
 
Re: Spirit of ---

Restin said:
There is a 'spirit' to every action of the mind/body

Here are a few examples from the NASU
  • Isaiah 19:14 a spirit of distortion
    Isaiah 29:10 a spirit of deep sleep
    Isaiah 61:3 a spirit of fainting
    Jeremiah 51:1 spirit of a destroyer
    Hosea 4:12 & 5:4 spirit of harlotry
    Acts 16:6 spirit of divination
    1 Timothy 5:21 spirit of partiality
cj, your comparrisons about the children of Israel, were 'different'.
At least, give us something to ponder over in our minds!

Another idea is that of the temple services
......(A--the beginning christian) is respresnted by the Outer Court
......(B--the youth/adult) the first compartment of the temple
......(C--Maturity) the most Holy Place of the sanctuary

.......Restin

Romans  8 : 27, "But He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to God.

Ephesians 4:23, "And that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind..."

The Spirit has a mind, man's mind has a spirit...... what gives???

Romans  8 : 6, "For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the spirit is life and peace."

And this life and peace?????

Romans  5 : 10, "For if we, being enemies, were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more we will be saved in His life, having been reconciled,..."

Romans  5 : 1, "Therefore having been justified out of faith, we have peace toward God through our Lord Jesus Christ,..."

Reconciled by His death and justified out of faith.



For sure our walk in the Lord can be viewed in the tabernacle as a type.... the tabernacle is a wonderful, multi-revealing source of typology; it is filled with type upon type upon type. The highest revelation of which is that everything related to the tabernacle is simply Christ.

But back to the spirit discussion.... the Holy of Holies is a type of a believers regenerated spirit. And Paul tells us to come boldly forward into it.

Our regenerated spirit is also the true Bethel, where Jacob saw the ladder on which the messengers of God ascended and decended. Our regenerated spirit is the connecting point between God and man.

This is a great study, and one that is needed in the majority of Christian gatherings.

Until we speak again, as Paul said to his brother and all in his house.... Philemon 1:25, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.

In love,
cj
 
Hi, this was just posted on another site! I think that it is pretty much on thread?--Elijah

Some 'very few' seem to think that they are to be spirits floating around on a cloud strumming a harp in heaven???
And that there will be NO FLESH OR BLOOD IN HEAVEN?? Or is it to be, no sinful (decayed) flesh & blood in heaven? Like Adam & Eve before sin!!

Annie say's perhaps to this nameless & fold/les 'sent' one of Matt. 10:32-38 one?
Annie, it is even dangerous walking on the devil's forbidden ground as did Eve! You see, you already have said 'perhaps'??

When Christ comes, some truly will [not be like Him!] For they will die the second death. They will come out of the grave just as decayed as they went into it!
But the others will be like Him!

Thomas decided that Christ was real!! (finally, huh?) See John 20:26-29. And it says that Christ ate fish & bread after being resurrected. John 21:13-14.

And John 24:37.. "And they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And He said unto them, Why are yea troubled and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; [for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as yea see that I have.]"

And these 'seen' in Matt. 27:52-53? Notice the Word of [Bodies!]
"And the graves were opened; and many [bodies] of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves [after the resurrection], and went *into holy city, and [APPEARED unto many]." (I supposed that, that is where the devil had Halloween start from)

1 John 3:2 "Beloved, now are we the son's of God, and it doeth not yet appear what we will shall be: but we know that, [when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is]." Both of whom we call the Father & the Son, [had an image,] at Adams creation. And the Word of God states that God is a Spirit! Also, that [He,] the Holy Ghost & the Holy Spirit, as God, is Spirit.


Notice Isaiah 66: 22-23 In the New Earth! We shall be Sabbath Keepers! And in verse 15-17 we see some who will not be there! (No, no spirits in hell either! See Obad. 16 for these d-e-a-d ones!

Yet, notice chapter 65:21-25! and read verse 21-23 in particular! Build Houses and inhabit them! (will they need to be 'painted'? that is for my other friend??) And plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them! And notice this!! 'Mine elect [shall long enjoy the *WORK of their hands]."

Whatever? Float around if that is your thing. Yet, that is not the Everlasting Gospel!!

But yes, one can be sure that we will have a body made like Adam & Eve had at the beginning, before sin! If we come forth in the First Resurrection! Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15.

---Elijah
 
Nowhere in the scripture can you find that the flesh was to live forever. We are told that in the very beginning, the natural man was taken from the ground (dust) "and unto dust shalt thou return" (Genesis 2:7; 3:19). In other words, flesh was to go back from which it came, and the breath of life (ruwach - spirit - see Genesis 6:17; 7:22) was to go back to the one that gave it.

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit (ruwach - Breath of Life) shall return unto God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7). When God "taketh away their breath (ruwach), they (men) die, and return to their dust" (Psalm 104:29).
 
Bob10 said:
Nowhere in the scripture can you find that the flesh was to live forever. We are told that in the very beginning, the natural man was taken from the ground (dust) "and unto dust shalt thou return" (Genesis 2:7; 3:19). In other words, flesh was to go back from which it came, and the breath of life (ruwach - spirit - see Genesis 6:17; 7:22) was to go back to the one that gave it.

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit (ruwach - Breath of Life) shall return unto God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7). When God "taketh away their breath (ruwach), they (men) die, and return to their dust" (Psalm 104:29).

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Hi Elijah here: Do you want to re/phase that first remark to say after Adams fall?
 
Hi Elijah here: Do you want to re/phase that first remark to say after Adams fall?

What? Do you think if Adam never sinned that he would still be alive? I don't.

This is a physical, biological existence, where the righteous and unrighteous both die ---- this death is not a punishment ----- it's just the natural chemical-biological order of things (1Cor. 15: 44-48).

Things made of the Earth, die.
 
Bob10 said:
Hi Elijah here: Do you want to re/phase that first remark to say after Adams fall?

What? Do you think if Adam never sinned that he would still be alive? I don't.

This is a physical, biological existence, where the righteous and unrighteous both die ---- this death is not a punishment ----- it's just the natural chemical-biological order of things (1Cor. 15: 44-48).

Things made of the Earth, die.

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Hi, I wish you had proved my doubts about your [post] wrong! :sad

No: I do not see any such hint of a thing! If the tree of life had not been removed, even the sinners would have not died! Gen. 3:22

All God's creation [had & have] conditional immortality. Even down to the Rev. saved ones, of Rev. 21:27 on through the next chapter 's verse 1-2!!

I take the Bible as a WHOLE (2 Tim. 3:16--Matt. 4:4--1 Cor. 14:32)
COMPLETE Everlasting Gospel & Everlasting COVENANT Truth! Rev. 14:6 & Heb. 13:20.

It also (your post) violates the Eccl.1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 Truth! (so I will wast no more time on that! :fadein:)

---Elijah


PS: Did Victor say that he thought that you were Seventh-day Adventist?? Is this how they believe??
 
Bob10 said:
What? Do you think if Adam never sinned that he would still be alive? I don't.

This is a physical, biological existence, where the righteous and unrighteous both die ---- this death is not a punishment ----- it's just the natural chemical-biological order of things (1Cor. 15: 44-48).

I have to agree with Elijah on this one, Bob. Roman 6:23 - The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life" Yes, this is talking about the second death, but without life, the death we all experience ultimately becomes the second death. It is not a punishment that God directly inflicts on us, but the ultimately punishment if we are not saved from it. The sin that causes the second death also causes the first death.

Satan said that they would never die if they disobeyed God. They did and thenGod said, "Dust you are and dust shalt thou return".If Adam had not sinned, there would have been no death to save us from. The tree of life is called that for a reason. By being expelled from the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve's access to the tree was denied. They then began to die.
 
Yahweh God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath [Hebrew neshamah, Strong's Hebrew #5397] of life; and man became a living soul [Hebrew, nephesh, Strong's Hebrew #5315]. -- Genesis 2:7.


http://reslight.addr.com/neshamah.html
 
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