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The Technology behind the Image of the Beast is nearer than I thought

Alfred Persson

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14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (Rev. 13:14-15 NKJ)

The end of this age is rapidly approaching, much faster than I realized.

I thought Quantum Computing necessary to create the "Image of the Beast" command and control economy was decades away, but this 60 minute video shows its here now.


I should update my post:

 
Look up Project Bluebeam. Many think it is only a false conspiracy theory, but scoffers will scoff at things they do not understand. It is in English.

 
Look up Project Bluebeam. Many think it is only a false conspiracy theory, but scoffers will scoff at things they do not understand. It is in English.

I have. Its plausible. But the physical evidence left behind by some of the phenomena might indicate something more is happening that involves Satan and fallen angels.
 
I have. Its plausible. But the physical evidence left behind by some of the phenomena might indicate something more is happening that involves Satan and fallen angels.
The whole thing is operated by Satan working through others as in signs and lying wonders like holographs that can deceive the very elect of God if possible.

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
The whole thing is operated by Satan working through others as in signs and lying wonders like holographs that can deceive the very elect of God if possible.

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
We seem to disagree about the degree of Satan's involvement. You have him working through others, which the text says he will do.

But I also believe John's Revelation shows he will literally appear, notice its repeated thrice "he was cast to the earth":

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. (Rev. 12:7-13 NKJ)


God took out of his way all restraint on his power to deceive.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. (Rev. 16:13 NKJ)

He will appear as the "Dragon commander" of a UFO fleet, pretending to be a savior of humanity from an extinction level calamity, and be literally present on the earth working with the Beast and his False Prophet. The frogs flying out of their mouths is the ancient alien theory that deceives the earth:

 
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But I also believe John's Revelation shows he will literally appear, notice its repeated thrice "he was cast to the earth":
That doesn't mean Satan was cast down to the earth in human form. You have to remember that Satan, being a created angel like all angels, is only in spirit form and not flesh and blood. This is why he has to work through others, Luke 24:39.
 
That doesn't mean Satan was cast down to the earth in human form. You have to remember that Satan, being a created angel like all angels, is only in spirit form and not flesh and blood. This is why he has to work through others, Luke 24:39.
Our cosmology is radically different. Heaven and earth are like alternate universes separated by a thin dimensional barrier. Otherwise they share time and space. Angels are physical. Satan is physical. New Jerusalem is a literal physical city, in the dimension of heaven. God will remove the dimensional barrier separating heaven and earth in the "new heavens and new earth".


Michael literally casts him and his angels out of the dimension of heaven, and they will be physical on earth.


He doesn't have to assume any forms.

When God took out of his way the degree against Satan and fallen angels being physical on earth, as they were before the flood, they can now appear literally as UFO aliens. Holograms might be a big part of their deception, but they can be real UFO ships.

The fundamental mistake people make about Satan and fallen angels, is confusing them with disembodied demons who roam the earth possessing insects, animals and men. These disembodied demons once had physical bodies, but they died in the Flood when God prevented their returning to heaven to escape physical death. Some of them were cast into the Abyss for their sins, others permitted to remain on earth because they didn't defile the image of God in man by having children with human wives.

Prior to God removing the restraint on his appearing physically on earth, satan appears like a spirit on earth. But he is a physical being in heaven just like the unfallen angels etc.

Just like the beast and false prophet, the Dragon is on earth physically, literally propagandizing the demon inspired lie of ancient alien theory:

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. (Rev. 16:13 NKJ)

 
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Angels are physical. Satan is physical.
Where is your proof in scripture for this?

This is where we differ in our understanding of what the word Nephilim means as it has been traditionally taught to be angels who came down and procreated with women by marrying and having children with them. Only God can incarnate His angels into human form for the purpose of His ministry.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The way I read this verse is that there were giants in the earth in those days before the flood and also after the flood when the sons of God (Godly line of Seth named in Genesis 5) as they all had sons and daughters, but not all of these sons and daughters obeyed God and fell away from Him and let's not forget the ungodly line of Cain that some of these sons and daughters might have married into Cain's line came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them, as some had the hereditary autosomal dominant pituitary gene such as AIP that produces Nephilim/giants the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (this gene had to start with Adam).

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - Nephilim
Part of Speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: Nephilim
Phonetic Spelling : nef-eel
Definition: "giants", name of two people, one before the flood and one after the flood

By this definition these angels would have to have come down two different times to marry the daughters of men. Once before the flood and again after the flood, but we only find this one time in Genesis 6:1, 2.

There is no such thing as a half angel, half human hybrid called Giants. Nephilim is just a name given to giants that we read about in scripture and even those that are living today being over 6 feet and taller.

Rephaim - race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Deuteronomy 3:11-13; 2 Samuel 21:16-20, Og the king of Bashan was the last of the Rephaim
Anakim - race of giants Numbers 13:33; Deuteronomy 2:10; 9:2 Anak son of Arba Joshua 15:13 descendant of Canaan, son of Ham
Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Genesis, 19:37; Deuteronomy 2:10, 11 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham
Zuzim/Zamzummim's the evil ones, roaming things Genesis 14:5-7, 19:38 Deuteronomy 2:20 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham

It's just like the name Lucifer/Satan/prince of darkness/Beelzebub/father of lies and many more names given to this fallen angel. Satan is nothing more than a fallen angel that goes to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it as he still has access to the throne room of God as he stands accusing the brethren as Jesus sits and makes intercession for us. Satan is the opposite of God's goodness as his evil hierarchy includes the third of the angels that have followed after him as he sends them throughout the earth for his destructive purpose in man, 1 Peter 5:8.
 
I do not believe in aliens from other planets. I would think the word of God would have something to say about an alien invasion in the visions He gave to John. Revelation is all the events that will lead up to the return of Christ on the last day. Satan is only cast out of heaven one time, not twice as he takes 1/3 of the angels with him. There is no Rapture of the church before Christ returns on the last day, but that is another topic of discussion.


Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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Of the 9 possible versions of Multiverse, I believe #8 "The Simulated Multiverse" is closest to what is taught in scripture:


 
Where is your proof in scripture for this?

This is where we differ in our understanding of what the word Nephilim means as it has been traditionally taught to be angels who came down and procreated with women by marrying and having children with them. Only God can incarnate His angels into human form for the purpose of His ministry.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
By accepting the "Seth" invention of Catholic theorists, you automatically reject the scripture proof angels are physical beings. Scripture says the angelic "sons of God" took human wives, the simplest explanation of this is they are physical beings.

The theory angels materialize bodies when they appear on earth is absurd given the molecular complexity of physical bodies, and the fact it contradicts scripture God alone is Creator of life. He alone kills and creates bodies.

`Now see that I, even I, am He, And there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand. (Deut. 32:39 NKJ)

Therefore, when I read Genesis 18 that angels ate and drank with Abraham, and spirits can do neither, I have proof in scripture angels are physical beings:


1 Then the LORD appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day.
2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground,
3 and said, "My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant.
4 "Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree.
5 "And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant." They said, "Do as you have said."
6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah and said, "Quickly, make ready three measures of fine meal; knead it and make cakes."
7 And Abraham ran to the herd, took a tender and good calf, gave it to a young man, and he hastened to prepare it.
8 So he took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree as they ate. (Gen. 18:1-8 NKJ)

Spirits don't eat and drink, only physical beings do that. That is my scripture proof.

The theory these were temporary bodies is unscriptural, a theory imposed upon the church by the Catholic magisterium:


The Fourth Lateran Council separates angelic from corporeal natures, and Petavius rightly characterises the contrary opinion as “proximate to heresy.” At the same time, angels are capable of assuming bodies; to which they are for the time intimately united; which they move and which they use to represent either their own invisible nature or the attributes of God. Passages of Scripture, which imply this, will readily occur to the reader.-Addis, W. E., & Arnold, T. (1887). In A Catholic Dictionary (Sixth Edition, With Additions, p. 25). New York: The Catholic Publication Society Co.

Inconsistently, Protestants believe the Catholic Magisterium above the plain meaning of scripture.

Scripture NEVER implies a creative act occurs whenever angels enter our realm, on the contrary it shows angels enter or leave earth through a "dimensional portal" (Gen. 28:12-13, 17; Mat. 3:16; Lk. 3:21; Ac. 7:56; 10:11; Jn. 1:51; Rev. 4:1; 19:11).

Corroborating physical beings inhabit heaven, Enoch and Elijah are there physically (Gen. 5:24; 2 Ki. 2:11)

Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (2 Ki. 2:11 NKJ)


Jesus did not materialize physical forms to prove He had risen from the dead (Lk 24:39). He did not walk through locked doors or a wall. When He appeared, scripture says only that He suddenly "stood in their midst" (Lk. 24:36; Jn. 20:26).

At Jesus' ascension a cloud received Him out of their sight (Ac. 1:9), He did not dematerialize.

The belief heaven is for spirits only is Catholic nonsense which if pressed to make official, they would also reject.
 
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I do not believe in aliens from other planets. I would think the word of God would have something to say about an alien invasion in the visions He gave to John. Revelation is all the events that will lead up to the return of Christ on the last day. Satan is only cast out of heaven one time, not twice as he takes 1/3 of the angels with him. There is no Rapture of the church before Christ returns on the last day, but that is another topic of discussion.


Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
I don't either. Fallen angels will disguise themselves as Extraterrestrial aliens. They will claim God also is an ET and the world will believe them. Many accept "ancient alien theory" which is being preached 24/7 throughout the earth, especially by the media like the "History Channel".

After God removes the barriers to Satanic power to deceive, the way for his demon kings "from the sunrising" is unrestrained. Satan will convince the earth it can defeat the "jealous and mean extraterrestrial named Yahweh" and His "Jesus" at Armageddon:


12 Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. (Rev. 16:12-16 NKJ)


Flying frogs symbolizes the end time belief in the "grays" etc.
 
That doesn't mean Satan was cast down to the earth in human form. You have to remember that Satan, being a created angel like all angels, is only in spirit form and not flesh and blood. This is why he has to work through others, Luke 24:39.

I never said he has a human form. Scripture shows he will appear as a "Dragon".

Thrice scripture says Satan was cast down to the earth, even pronouncing Woe to the earth because of that, and you refuse to believe it.

"Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time." (Rev. 12:12 NKJ)
 
Where is your proof in scripture for this?

This is where we differ in our understanding of what the word Nephilim means as it has been traditionally taught to be angels who came down and procreated with women by marrying and having children with them. Only God can incarnate His angels into human form for the purpose of His ministry.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The way I read this verse is that there were giants in the earth in those days before the flood and also after the flood when the sons of God (Godly line of Seth named in Genesis 5) as they all had sons and daughters, but not all of these sons and daughters obeyed God and fell away from Him and let's not forget the ungodly line of Cain that some of these sons and daughters might have married into Cain's line came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them, as some had the hereditary autosomal dominant pituitary gene such as AIP that produces Nephilim/giants the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (this gene had to start with Adam).

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - Nephilim
Part of Speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: Nephilim
Phonetic Spelling : nef-eel
Definition: "giants", name of two people, one before the flood and one after the flood

By this definition these angels would have to have come down two different times to marry the daughters of men. Once before the flood and again after the flood, but we only find this one time in Genesis 6:1, 2.

There is no such thing as a half angel, half human hybrid called Giants. Nephilim is just a name given to giants that we read about in scripture and even those that are living today being over 6 feet and taller.

Rephaim - race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Deuteronomy 3:11-13; 2 Samuel 21:16-20, Og the king of Bashan was the last of the Rephaim
Anakim - race of giants Numbers 13:33; Deuteronomy 2:10; 9:2 Anak son of Arba Joshua 15:13 descendant of Canaan, son of Ham
Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Genesis, 19:37; Deuteronomy 2:10, 11 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham
Zuzim/Zamzummim's the evil ones, roaming things Genesis 14:5-7, 19:38 Deuteronomy 2:20 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham

It's just like the name Lucifer/Satan/prince of darkness/Beelzebub/father of lies and many more names given to this fallen angel. Satan is nothing more than a fallen angel that goes to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it as he still has access to the throne room of God as he stands accusing the brethren as Jesus sits and makes intercession for us. Satan is the opposite of God's goodness as his evil hierarchy includes the third of the angels that have followed after him as he sends them throughout the earth for his destructive purpose in man, 1 Peter 5:8.
Nephilim don't appear on earth after the flood, the cowardly exaggeration of the spies not proving otherwise. Caleb easily dispatched the so called "Nephilim" who were the sons of a man named Anak.

The literal translation of Nephilim is "fallen ones" and in ancient Jewish writings these were fallen angels, who together with the "sons of Elohim" took wives and bore them children called the "men of renown":

NKJ Genesis 6:1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,
2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. (Gen. 6:1-4 NKJ)

By calling them "men of renown" Moses may have been alluding to the ancient stories of gods coming down from heaven to sire human children, in Greek, Egyptian and Assyrian myth.

Both ancient Egyptians and Assyrian kings traced their right to rule to a divine heritage. Gilgamesh was considered two thirds "Elohim" and a third human in Mesopotamian myth.

The apostles agreed with the ancient Jewish interpretation these were angels, and Jude specifically refers to their going after "strange flesh":

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; (2 Pet. 2:4 NKJ)

6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:6-7 NKJ)

Catholics rejected this for the "children of Seth" theory you faithfully defend.

When Christ said angels in heaven don't marry, He was referring to obedient angels in heaven, not disobedient angels on earth.

 
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That doesn't mean Satan was cast down to the earth in human form. You have to remember that Satan, being a created angel like all angels, is only in spirit form and not flesh and blood. This is why he has to work through others, Luke 24:39.
2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.
3 And one cried to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!" (Isa. 6:2-3 NKJ)

08314 שָׂרָף saraph {saw-rawf'}

Meaning: 1) serpent, fiery serpent 1a) poisonous serpent (fiery from burning effect of poison) 2) seraph, seraphim 2a) majestic beings with 6 wings, human hands or voices in attendance upon God


Its likely Satan was a saraph, he is called the anointed cherub who covered the throne of God:

13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created.
14 "You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. (Ezek. 28:13-15 NKJ)

In other words, Satan is literally "a Dragon". Its not an assumed form. This explains why Satan is represented as a Dragon throughout the earth in all ancient myth as well as the Bible.

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2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.
3 And one cried to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!" (Isa. 6:2-3 NKJ)
08314 שָׂרָף saraph {saw-rawf'}

Meaning: 1) serpent, fiery serpent 1a) poisonous serpent (fiery from burning effect of poison) 2) seraph, seraphim 2a) majestic beings with 6 wings, human hands or voices in attendance upon God


Its likely Satan was a saraph, he is called the anointed cherub who covered the throne of God:

13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created.
14 "You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. (Ezek. 28:13-15 NKJ)

In other words, Satan is literally "a Dragon". Its not an assumed form. This explains why Satan is represented as a Dragon throughout the earth in all ancient myth as well as the Bible.

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You can believe angels are in human form, but this comes against what scripture says as I already gave you the scriptures that say they are created spirits.

Time for me to move on and you have a good day.
 
You can believe angels are in human form, but this comes against what scripture says as I already gave you the scriptures that say they are created spirits.

Time for me to move on and you have a good day.
No scripture exist that says they are created spirits.

It is said God made them spirits, and flames of fire, but that is figurative as it happened AFTER they were created.

As God's ministers, they are made a swift as spirits, and terrible as God's consuming fire.
 
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