The testimony of Jesus Christ

[Shilohsfoal]

In the testimony of Jesus Christ,Christ calls Israels leaders the children of the devil(Satan).

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Is it forbidden on this forum to quote Jesus or to refer to Israels leaders as the children of the devil as Jesus did?

 

[JT4444]

In the testimony of Jesus Christ,Christ calls Israels leaders the children of the devil(Satan).

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Is it forbidden on this forum to quote Jesus or to refer to Israels leaders as the children of the devil as Jesus did?

Jesus had the right to judge some of the religious leaders of the time. You don't have that right.

 

[hawkman]

Is it forbidden on this forum to quote Jesus or to refer to Israels leaders as the children of the devil as Jesus did?

If you are having a problem with the forum please use the TWTS .

https://christianforums.net/forums/talk-with-the-staff-report-a-site-issue.59/

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Jesus had the right to judge some of the religious leaders of the time. You don't have that right.

So you believe it is forbidden to acknowledge the words of Jesus Christ and you judge them who believe him.

 

[Hopeful 2]

So you believe it is forbidden to acknowledge the words of Jesus Christ and you judge them who believe him.

As it is written in 1 Cor 2:15, the spiritual man judges all things.

 

[Hopeful 2]

I was just told I don't have the right to judge.
Seems someone doesn't agree with 1 Corinthians 2:15.

I agree.
But the unspiritual often teach other unspiritual folks false doctrines.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I agree.
But the unspiritual often teach other unspiritual folks false doctrines.

I see that quite often in forums .
There are some who teach the children of the devil are God's chosen people.They can't tell the difference.They can't even judge what is good or bad.They simply except what they have been taught by unspiritual leaders.



44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

[JT4444]

So you believe it is forbidden to acknowledge the words of Jesus Christ and you judge them who believe him.

That's not what you are doing. You are passing judgement on millions of people that you don't know.

 

[Hopeful 2]

I see that quite often in forums .
There are some who teach the children of the devil are God's chosen people.They can't tell the difference.They can't even judge what is good or bad.They simply except what they have been taught by unspiritual leaders.

Not just on forums.
Everyday life shows us that men use titles to distinguish between righteous and evil.
White-Black. Jew-Christian. Straight-Homosexual. Man-Woman.
Methodist-Baptist. Catholic-Protestant.
They use the title as a badge of righteousness, without regarding the fruit of the individual.

 

[JT4444]

I was just told I don't have the right to judge.
Seems someone doesn't agree with 1 Corinthians 2:15.

There's a difference between using your judgment and condemning people that you don't know.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again (Matthew 7:1-2)

 

[JT4444]

As it is written in 1 Cor 2:15, the spiritual man judges all things.

Things yes, people no. Matthew 7:1-2 tells us not to judge others.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

That's not what you are doing. You are passing judgement on millions of people that you don't know.

No I haven't.
There are not millions of people in the knesset and Benjamin netanyahu is not millions of people.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Things yes, people no. Matthew 7:1-2 tells us not to judge others.

Then you believe an antichrist is a thing or a person?
John seems to think an antichrist is a person in this verse and explains what an antichrist is by what he says.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

Now if John could acknowledge who an antichrist is by what he says ,then how is it that you say I and John can not acknowledge an antichrist by what he says?
Is john wrong ?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

There's a difference between using your judgment and condemning people that you don't know.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again (Matthew 7:1-2)

I don't remember killing anyone so condemning people is out of the question and you should not accuse someone of condemning others when they haven't.
As for judging antichrist because someone says that Jesus is not the Christ ,then that would be a correct judgement by John.Correct?

Or would you say that John should not have judged others and refered to them as antichrist?


1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.


Is john and me allowed to say someone is a liar or antichrist if they say Jesus is not the Christ or are me and John not allowed to make that judgement?