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The Universality of the Golden Rule in World Religions

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Soma-Sight

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Christianity All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:1

Confucianism Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state.
Analects 12:2

Buddhism Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
Udana-Varga 5,1

Hinduism This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you.
Mahabharata 5,1517

Islam No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Sunnah

Judaism What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary.
Talmud, Shabbat 3id

Taoism Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss.
Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien

Zoroastrianism That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself.
Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5


http://www.teachingvalues.com/goldenrule.html
 
Soma-Sight said:
Islam No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
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Gary may have something to say about that...


:D
 
Gary may have something to say about that...
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Your probably right!

Gary ic correct in that for the most part Islam seems to be more "Old Testament" eye for an eye style rather than turn the other cheek "New Testament" style!
 
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Most Religions I know of, except perhaps Laveyan Satanism, have a version of the Golden Rule. Satanism has one, but its more like "Do unto others as you would have done unto you unless the guy irritates you." Those subtle changes in justification in that Religion are rather irritating.

(Not Satanist myself.)
 
Soma-Sight said:

Christianity All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 7:1

Confucianism Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state.
Analects 12:2

Buddhism Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
Udana-Varga 5,1

Hinduism This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you.
Mahabharata 5,1517

Islam No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Sunnah

Judaism What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary.
Talmud, Shabbat 3id

Taoism Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss.
Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien

Zoroastrianism That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself.
Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5


http://www.teachingvalues.com/goldenrule.html
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I think you will find that all people, unless they have become completely hardened to God, have a sense of right and wrong. God has given all the ability to judge rightly but sadly, most do not, and none of us does all the time. I think these examples you have given here show this clearly. It is sad that people can identify the things that God has put into them but then attribute it to false gods in worship. Sad indeed.
 
Christianity: All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:1

This is a positive statement, never intended in the negetive sense. Which eliminates these...

Confucianism: Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state. Analects 12:2

Buddhism: Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
Udana-Varga 5,1

Hinduism: This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you. Mahabharata 5,1517

Judaism: What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary. Talmud, Shabbat 3id

Zoroastrianism: That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself. Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5
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Islam: No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself. Sunnah

This "desire" is not according to the law and the prophets of the Christian Bible. All of the examples except the one from the Christian Bible would fail this part.

Taoism: Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss. Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien

This has nothing to do with "do", but only with "regard".

This one stands alone...

All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:1

In Christ

Dave
 
"Perhaps the oldest recorded version--which is cast in a positive form--stems from Zoroaster (628-551 B.C.E.): "That which is good for all and any one, for whomsoever--that is good for me...what I hold good for self, I should for all. Only Law Universal is true Law" (Gathas, 43.1)."

http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/%7Edialogu ... /intro.htm
 
Guess this just kinda sounds like common sense to me...

The fact that pretty much every culture (and subsequent religion) has figured this out shows it's a pretty good diea.

What do you all think? Should we try it?
 
Jainism:


"One should treat all beings as he himself would be treated."

(Sutrakritanga 1.10.13)


"A man should wander about treating all creatures as he himself would be treated."

(Sutrakritanga 1.11.33)
 
The Golden Rule and Christian Apologetics
By Edward T. Babinski

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/religion/golden.html


"I have run across not a few evangelical Christian apologists who have argued that their religion is "superior" because Jesus preached the Golden Rule, "All things therefore that you want people to DO to you, DO thus to them" (Matthew 7:12), while other ancient teachers merely taught the negative version of that rule..."
 
The Golden Rule and Christian Apologetics
By Edward T. Babinski

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/religion/golden.html


"Lastly, there appears to be a flaw in the Golden Rule itself. If you simply try to "do unto other as you would like them to do unto you" then you could wind up doing things to others they might not enjoy as much as you do! Do you like listening to rap music? Then do it to others! Crank up those speakers so others can enjoy it as well! Do you like having sex? Then go out and initiate sex with others! Do you love your particular religious beliefs? Then initiate conversations with others about your favorite beliefs. Worst case scenario is that if someone fears they will be sent to eternal hell for doubting a particular religious belief, they might welcome being coerced and tortured to "correct" their beliefs and assure them eternal heaven, in which case the Golden Rule would imply that other people would be equally appreciative of being "corrected" rather than "risk eternal hellfire." So we need both the Golden Rule and also the "negative" Golden Rule, working together, to avoid the kinds of excesses mentioned above."
 
Cannibals do not know cannibalism is wrong until someone tells them it's wrong.

:-D

) don't ask... it's late and I'm tired. :o (

:lol:
 
Islam does not adhere to the Golden Rule

The closest that Islam comes to this principle is a hadith (NOTE: In the Hadith and NOT the Quran!) that says:

"None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." [Number 13 of Imam "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."]

The same hadith is reported by Bukhari 1.2.12

"The Prophet said, "None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother what he likes for himself."

This brotherhood however does not extend to everyone. Quran (9:23) states that the believers should not take for friends and protectors (awlia) their fathers and brothers if they love Infidelity above Islam. In fact there are many verses that tell the Muslims to kill the unbelievers and be harsh with them. A clear example that Islam is not based on the Golden Rule is the verse (48:29) It says: "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.â€Â

:o :o

Further discussion here: -click-
 
Gary said:
Islam does not adhere to the Golden Rule

The closest that Islam comes to this principle is a hadith (NOTE: In the Hadith and NOT the Quran!) that says:

"None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." [Number 13 of Imam "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."]

The same hadith is reported by Bukhari 1.2.12

"The Prophet said, "None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother what he likes for himself."

This brotherhood however does not extend to everyone. Quran (9:23) states that the believers should not take for friends and protectors (awlia) their fathers and brothers if they love Infidelity above Islam. In fact there are many verses that tell the Muslims to kill the unbelievers and be harsh with them. A clear example that Islam is not based on the Golden Rule is the verse (48:29) It says: "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.â€Â

:o :o

Further discussion here: -click-
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http://library.csusm.edu/plagiarism/wha ... s_para.htm

"close paraphrase, where trivial changes are made such as substituting similar words or changing the sentence order, is essentially the same as copying the author’s words directly. This is not enough to count as an original expression of the idea and is still considered a form of exact copy plagiarism."

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina50428p3.htm

It seems that "farside" referenced the article in the thread that you gave a link to. However, there is no clear indication by yourself that you are borrowing from that source.


You should know better than to commit plagiarism. :D
 
Admit that the Golden Rule does NOT exist in Islam.... that is the issue. As for plagiarism, the Quran is full of it.

:D :D :D
 
DivineNames said:
The Golden Rule and Christian Apologetics
By Edward T. Babinski

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/religion/golden.html

"Lastly, there appears to be a flaw in the Golden Rule itself. If you simply try to "do unto other as you would like them to do unto you" then you could wind up doing things to others they might not enjoy as much as you do! Do you like listening to rap music? Then do it to others! Crank up those speakers so others can enjoy it as well! Do you like having sex? Then go out and initiate sex with others! Do you love your particular religious beliefs? Then initiate conversations with others about your favorite beliefs. Worst case scenario is that if someone fears they will be sent to eternal hell for doubting a particular religious belief, they might welcome being coerced and tortured to "correct" their beliefs and assure them eternal heaven, in which case the Golden Rule would imply that other people would be equally appreciative of being "corrected" rather than "risk eternal hellfire." So we need both the Golden Rule and also the "negative" Golden Rule, working together, to avoid the kinds of excesses mentioned above."
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Rather pathetic argument. It is not a one way street. If you play your favorite rap music because YOU like it... well, have you considered others?

The "Golden Rule" does work. Have you considered IF your neighbor likes rap music? The Golden Rule would suggest that you first ASK your neighbor... is that not what YOU would have liked to be done to you?

Get the idea yet?

:) :)
 
Gary said:
Admit that the Golden Rule does NOT exist in Islam.... that is the issue. As for plagiarism, the Quran is full of it.

:D :D :D
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With regard to Islam, whatever you say.

You complain about plagiarism when other people do it Gary, you shouldn't be doing it yourself!

I am shocked and disapointed in you. :-D
 
Gary said:
Have you considered IF your neighbor likes rap music? The Golden Rule would suggest that you first ASK your neighbor... is that not what YOU would have liked to be done to you?

Get the idea yet?

:) :)
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That is how it would be sensibly understood, I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
 
DivineNames said:
Gary said:
Have you considered IF your neighbor likes rap music? The Golden Rule would suggest that you first ASK your neighbor... is that not what YOU would have liked to be done to you?

Get the idea yet?

:) :)
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That is how it would be sensibly understood, I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
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So in effect, you are rejecting your previous post..... Good! That is real progress.

:) :)

Now move on to the harder parts.... ever considered what you do NOT find in other religions other than Christianity?

I will give you a clue. It is about "love" and "enemies".

:D
 
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