The Very Elect

[Elijah674]

?? Needs posting in either Theology Or End Time? both perhaps!;) For Eccl. 3:15 found some real stuff in Egypt! And Thess. + Rev. [DOCUMENTS] this repeat!

But, answer this for yourself, surely it is going to be required understanding to be the Very Elect, if one is to be such??

First:
Matt. 24:21-25 is in progress if we are living in the END TIME, and if so, where are you at in 'growth' for one being an 'ELECT' one? 'Great Signs + Wonders'??? What might that be, and are you already caught up in that type of EMOTION, EXCITEMENT, DRAMA, FEELING, RACKET, NOISE? EXTRATERRESTRIAL FOR SURE! And that also is doctrinal! Eph. 6:12, but which is the Truth?

Surely there is no problem with 'Wonders' if one does not use this as a test replacing Acts 5:32's Obedience!

Second:
What way using the above Excellent 'Gospel Gifts' do you find mentioned there for satan & his Gen. 4:7 desiree's to PERVERT, and to do his DECEPTION best??
THINK!

Third:
Do you know that you are not already caught up in this? How so? 'By Great Wonders'? Maybe tongues? dreams? miracles? visions? near death stuff? emotion? feelings??? You know, 'g'od just told me so! (except it goes opposite His Word!)

To be honest with ones self, this stuff means more to one group than you might think? Everything that ever happens seems to them to mean something extratarrestrial! It truely is a false prophesied hobby/horse religeon, one of the Rev. 17:1-5 daughters.
On one site we see it as the Bible having Bible Codes. And what church fold is that? Just another first day keeping false church.

And yes, Christ does have His sheep still in these folds who must awaken & leave or else their past prophesied 'Elect' status, will be found to be SPEWED OUT! Rev. 18:4 (and who will do that? John 12:42-43!)

--Elijah

 

[Hitch]

Its your business Eli but when I see the mishmash of colors and sizes you use I dont bother with the text.

 

[warhorse]

Its your business Eli but when I see the mishmash of colors and sizes you use I dont bother with the text.

I honestly cant follow his train of thought well enough to agree or rebuff...

 

[farouk]

Hard to follow...

Maybe the FBI / homeland security method is better:

Short question: Answer: yes, no, or maybe, whatever.

 

[savedbygrace57]

The very elect are simply those Christ died for..

 

[Elijah674]

The very elect are simply those Christ died for..

Let's see? simply??
Did you read what the two posts above this last one said about the 'elect'?? ;)

And the Lord states that about the Beelzebub verse in Matt. 10, huh! (surely brain/dead?) and these ones of Matt. 10 were ones that were of His ex/fold of Isa. 5. He could have died for these ones also.

--Elijah

 

[Sinthesis]

The Very Elect
?? Needs posting in either Theology Or End Time? both perhaps! For Eccl. 3:15 found some real stuff in Egypt! And Thess. + Rev. [DOCUMENTS] this repeat!

But, answer this for yourself, surely it is going to be required understanding to be the Very Elect, if one is to be such??

First:
Matt. 24:21-25 is in progress if we are living in the END TIME, and if so, where are you at in 'growth' for one being an 'ELECT' one? 'Great Signs + Wonders'??? What might that be, and are you already caught up in that type of EMOTION, EXCITEMENT, DRAMA, FEELING, RACKET, NOISE? EXTRATERRESTRIAL FOR SURE! And that also is doctrinal! Eph. 6:12, but which is the Truth?

Surely there is no problem with 'Wonders' if one does not use this as a test replacing Acts 5:32's Obedience!

Second:
What way using the above Excellent 'Gospel Gifts' do you find mentioned there for satan & his Gen. 4:7 desiree's to PERVERT, and to do his DECEPTION best??
THINK!

Third:
Do you know that you are not already caught up in this? How so? 'By Great Wonders'? Maybe tongues? dreams? miracles? visions? near death stuff? emotion? feelings??? You know, 'g'od just told me so! (except it goes opposite His Word!)

To be honest with ones self, this stuff means more to one group than you might think? Everything that ever happens seems to them to mean something extratarrestrial! It truely is a false prophesied hobby/horse religeon, one of the Rev. 17:1-5 daughters.
On one site we see it as the Bible having Bible Codes. And what church fold is that? Just another first day keeping false church.

And yes, Christ does have His sheep still in these folds who must awaken & leave or else their past prophesied 'Elect' status, will be found to be SPEWED OUT! Rev. 18:4 (and who will do that? John 12:42-43!)

--Elijah

Easier to follow IMO.

 

[savedbygrace57]

The elect, the Sheep, the Church are all the same, and describes who Jesus Christ died for...

 

[Joe67]

The elect are those chosen to be members of the priesthood with Jesus. This is the high calling. These are given atonement through the blood of a bullock.

The common salvation is for the congregation who are given atonement through the blood of a he-goat.

The elect serve the congregation. The congregation are still busy trying to not be lost; which is a good beginning.

Many are called (congregation).

Few are chosen (elect).

Joe

 

[savedbygrace57]

joe:

The elect are those chosen to be members of the priesthood with Jesus

Which is every believer, everyone Christ died for..

1 pet 2:

9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

rev 5:

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 

[Joe67]

joe:


Which is every believer, everyone Christ died for..

1 pet 2:

9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

rev 5:

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

sbg,

There is a "common" salvation, which in Leviticus 16 is called the "congregation." The blood of a he goat atones for them on the mercy seat and on the golden altar.

There is the "especially the household of faith" salvation, which in Leviticus 16 is called the "priest and his household." The blood of a bullock atones for them on the mercy seat of the ark and on the golden altar.

The ram is a burnt offering atonement for both groups, in the outer court.

The scapegoat, with sins upon his head and taken into the wilderness, is a ministration for both groups.

Revelation 21:22 - 22:4 is a NT picture of this same dual community that are the parts of the Lord Jesus' family. The nations of the saved, the kings of the earth and the servants (priests) of God and the Lamb are the parts of the new earth.

Gen 9:27
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem;... KJV

Joe

 

[savedbygrace57]

joe:

sbg,

There is a "common" salvation, which in Leviticus 16 is called the "congregation." The blood of a he goat atones for them on the mercy seat and on the golden altar.

You going off on a tangent..see my previous post..all believers have been chosen into the priesthood..

 

[Elijah674]

The elect, the Sheep, the Church are all the same, and describes who Jesus Christ died for...

1 Only one Elect!
2 many sheep! (good + bad, many more bad!)
3 and Christ died for the elect few known in for/knowledge only!

 

[savedbygrace57]

eli:

Only one Elect!

Thats a lie..matt 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[Elijah674]

eli:



Thats a lie..matt 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Wow, your post sure is a Heb. 5 duded one?? These Elect are many, yet, they are ONLY ONE GROUP OF ELECT! But none will be found as 2 Cor. 4:2.

There are only TWO Groups Forum: Matt. 6:24 find's one in Christ's group, & the other are ALL IN satans camp. Both are SOLID IN UNITY! One in Obedience to Christ, and the others???? Yes, they too are UNITED BEHIND satan their Master! (and that IS NO LIE postor!)

Even with ALL of their babbling tongues of Rev. 17:1-5, they are still ALL IN satans camp readied for the Eternal Slaughter by their free choice. God could do nothing more for them than He had & is doing! Isa. 5:4's repeat!