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God Himself tells us throughout the scriptures what symbol for the church He chooses to use. It is a woman. In the OT His church was the people of promise, the true descendants of Abraham, those who lived by faith, not necessarily those born by blood. That is God's true people. The same with the newT. Those who are of the same faith of Abraham, those who are spiritual Jews and circumcised in the heart.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
Isaiah 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto
Zion, Thou art my people.
See also 2 Cor 1:2 Eph 5:22,23 Rev 19:7,8
A virgin or chaste and pure woman is God's true church, whether OT or New. A prostitute or harlot and unfaithful woman is an apostate or backslidden church.
Now on that basis, let us look at Revel 12.
1 ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, ...
Here is depicted God's church, His people, clothed with His own righteousness. Psalm 84:11; Malachi 4:2)
and the moon under her feet...
They are a people who stand on the reflected light of God's truth as given in His word. (Psalm 119:105) and the sacrificial system of the OT that reflected light upon the Messiah to come. (Hebrews 10:1)
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
The stars depict the twelve tribal patriarchs and the 12 apostles. Gen 37:11)
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
All the true people of God throughout the OT longed for their Deliverer, their Messiah. They cried out for their Savior, and every woman of Israel held the hope of being the one to be so privileged to give birth to Him.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
This dragon is undoubtedly Satan. But it is also reminiscent of the 4th beast of Daniel 7, and the first beast of Rev 13. In the 1st instance pagan Rome, and in the second, papal Rome. In this context of standing before the child at birth is depicted pagan Rome who ruled Palestine at the time of the coming of Jesus. Herod was their appointed king at that time and it was he as their representative who sought the child's life, as Satan's agent.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
The child was Jesus, the Messaih. He will one day rule all nations with a rod of iron. (Rev 2:27 19:13-16 Psalm 2:7-9) After competing His mission on earth He was caught up to heaven on a cloud and is seated upon His throne before the Father.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
The church of God was first persecuted by the Jews, then pagan Rome, then throughout Europe by Papal Rome. This time period of 1260 days is prophetic. It cannot then be taken literally, but must be interpreted according to the precedents set down for such a task as in Numbers 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise. and in Ezek 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.
This day/year principle has been used by bible expositors and students for many centuries and can be seen clearly in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24 where they understood as days (490) then years. It was 490 years to the day from the commandment of Artexerxes to the birth of Jesus. (This prophecy is so clear and accurate, it is very rarely spoken of in Jewish circles today. So why not keep to the principle and apply it here? It firs. As do the other time periods shown elsewhere that cover the same period. Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Rev 11:2,3; 12:6,14; 13:5. Times time and half a time and 42 months all depict 1260 years. It covers the time of the papal persecutions of the church throughout the dark ages. From 538 when the last of the 3 horns were rooted up by the little horn (papacy) and to 1798 when Napolean's general Berthier entered Rome and captured the pope ending the papacy's secular rule in Rome and thus inflicted the mortal head wound .
The wilderness refers to those places where God's people hid during the dark ages of papal rule and persecution throughout Europe. The Waldenses and Albigenses are examples of God's church which were nourished and kept alive during this time. The woman took the sunlight, the moon and the stars with her. She did not leave them behind for the Roman church to possess them.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
The flood from the mouth of the serpent was the lies and false doctrines that came from his "mouthpiece" the Roman church. However, the woman found refuge in the earth. This piece of history is not recognised by many in these forums, but God has indeed placed America in prophecy and this is the first instant. In Rev 13 the second beast is seen as coming up out of the earth. The first beast, in contrast, came up out of the sea. In Rev 17:15 we are told that sea represents peoples, nations tongues and tribes. Thus the first beast, the papacy, came up in a populated area. The centre of civilisation was then Rome and her empire stretched over Europe. This was where the papacy arose and eventually ruled over. The second beast, the USA, came up in a relatively unpopulated or sparcely populated area, the earth.
The puritans and pilgrim fathers found refuge in America from the persecutions and constrictions of papal Europe and protestantism gained in America a place to flourish and grow. This was ordained of God and prophesied of by the Holy Spirit through John. The earth thus helped the woman escape the flood of false doctrine that the church by the inspiration of Satan spewed from it's mouth. (Note throughout the scriptures concerning the antichrist the blasphemies, and the proud boasts and the great things that came from the mouth of the little horn, and the beast of Rev 13). In 1798 as the papacy was being brought down, the USA was coming up. This fits perfectly with the chronological order of the fall and rise of the two beasts in Rev 13.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The dragon is not done yet however. Just as the mortal wound is healed on the head of the beast so also is the papacy rising again to power. Not so openly this time, but in the secret recesses of the American government Jesuits and papal sympathisers are rising to power. Here is a website that shows how cleverly and insidiously is Rome taking over America. Be warned, Rome has no less intention to destroy protestantism today than she did 500 years ago. Spirituallysmart.com.
To not recognise America in prophecy and the RCC as the antichrist, is to place yourself in danger of being on the side of antichrist in the final conflict.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
Isaiah 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto
Zion, Thou art my people.
See also 2 Cor 1:2 Eph 5:22,23 Rev 19:7,8
A virgin or chaste and pure woman is God's true church, whether OT or New. A prostitute or harlot and unfaithful woman is an apostate or backslidden church.
Now on that basis, let us look at Revel 12.
1 ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, ...
Here is depicted God's church, His people, clothed with His own righteousness. Psalm 84:11; Malachi 4:2)
and the moon under her feet...
They are a people who stand on the reflected light of God's truth as given in His word. (Psalm 119:105) and the sacrificial system of the OT that reflected light upon the Messiah to come. (Hebrews 10:1)
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
The stars depict the twelve tribal patriarchs and the 12 apostles. Gen 37:11)
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
All the true people of God throughout the OT longed for their Deliverer, their Messiah. They cried out for their Savior, and every woman of Israel held the hope of being the one to be so privileged to give birth to Him.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
This dragon is undoubtedly Satan. But it is also reminiscent of the 4th beast of Daniel 7, and the first beast of Rev 13. In the 1st instance pagan Rome, and in the second, papal Rome. In this context of standing before the child at birth is depicted pagan Rome who ruled Palestine at the time of the coming of Jesus. Herod was their appointed king at that time and it was he as their representative who sought the child's life, as Satan's agent.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
The child was Jesus, the Messaih. He will one day rule all nations with a rod of iron. (Rev 2:27 19:13-16 Psalm 2:7-9) After competing His mission on earth He was caught up to heaven on a cloud and is seated upon His throne before the Father.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
The church of God was first persecuted by the Jews, then pagan Rome, then throughout Europe by Papal Rome. This time period of 1260 days is prophetic. It cannot then be taken literally, but must be interpreted according to the precedents set down for such a task as in Numbers 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise. and in Ezek 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.
This day/year principle has been used by bible expositors and students for many centuries and can be seen clearly in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24 where they understood as days (490) then years. It was 490 years to the day from the commandment of Artexerxes to the birth of Jesus. (This prophecy is so clear and accurate, it is very rarely spoken of in Jewish circles today. So why not keep to the principle and apply it here? It firs. As do the other time periods shown elsewhere that cover the same period. Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Rev 11:2,3; 12:6,14; 13:5. Times time and half a time and 42 months all depict 1260 years. It covers the time of the papal persecutions of the church throughout the dark ages. From 538 when the last of the 3 horns were rooted up by the little horn (papacy) and to 1798 when Napolean's general Berthier entered Rome and captured the pope ending the papacy's secular rule in Rome and thus inflicted the mortal head wound .
The wilderness refers to those places where God's people hid during the dark ages of papal rule and persecution throughout Europe. The Waldenses and Albigenses are examples of God's church which were nourished and kept alive during this time. The woman took the sunlight, the moon and the stars with her. She did not leave them behind for the Roman church to possess them.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
The flood from the mouth of the serpent was the lies and false doctrines that came from his "mouthpiece" the Roman church. However, the woman found refuge in the earth. This piece of history is not recognised by many in these forums, but God has indeed placed America in prophecy and this is the first instant. In Rev 13 the second beast is seen as coming up out of the earth. The first beast, in contrast, came up out of the sea. In Rev 17:15 we are told that sea represents peoples, nations tongues and tribes. Thus the first beast, the papacy, came up in a populated area. The centre of civilisation was then Rome and her empire stretched over Europe. This was where the papacy arose and eventually ruled over. The second beast, the USA, came up in a relatively unpopulated or sparcely populated area, the earth.
The puritans and pilgrim fathers found refuge in America from the persecutions and constrictions of papal Europe and protestantism gained in America a place to flourish and grow. This was ordained of God and prophesied of by the Holy Spirit through John. The earth thus helped the woman escape the flood of false doctrine that the church by the inspiration of Satan spewed from it's mouth. (Note throughout the scriptures concerning the antichrist the blasphemies, and the proud boasts and the great things that came from the mouth of the little horn, and the beast of Rev 13). In 1798 as the papacy was being brought down, the USA was coming up. This fits perfectly with the chronological order of the fall and rise of the two beasts in Rev 13.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The dragon is not done yet however. Just as the mortal wound is healed on the head of the beast so also is the papacy rising again to power. Not so openly this time, but in the secret recesses of the American government Jesuits and papal sympathisers are rising to power. Here is a website that shows how cleverly and insidiously is Rome taking over America. Be warned, Rome has no less intention to destroy protestantism today than she did 500 years ago. Spirituallysmart.com.
To not recognise America in prophecy and the RCC as the antichrist, is to place yourself in danger of being on the side of antichrist in the final conflict.
