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The World Just Does Not Want To Hear The Gospel

Lewis

Lewis

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Two of my hometown Eagles team, faced rejection for talking about Jesus Christ at a public school. The world wants God out of the equation.

This story is from the Philadelphia Daily News

School irked by two Eagles' holy message

Staff and Wire Reports

NEWARK, Del. - The principal of a public high school apologized to parents for allowing a Christian-themed assembly that featured the Eagles' Tra Thomas and Thomas Tapeh, saying he was misled about what the presentation would cover.

Newark High School principal Emmanuel Caulk wrote in a letter that he expected Thomas and Tapeh to focus on "values, choices and challenges that adolescents face in today's society."

He said promotional material used the name "Tra Thomas Promotional Tour," and that he did not know Thomas was founder and spokesman for Athletes United for Christ.

A projection of that organization's logo was shown throughout Tuesday's assembly, and the athletes urged students to attend an upcoming rally and concert at a Philadelphia-area Christian center.

Some students and parents complained.

"As a parent of a child in a public school, I am uncomfortable with the fact that an evangelical organization can come into a public assembly that is a promotional event for an evangelical Christian concert," Becky Ashley told the Wilmington News Journal.

Thomas told the News Journal he assumed everyone knew his promotional tour was connected to his organization but that he has heard similar complaints after speaking at other public schools.

"What we're trying to do is to help the kids make better decisions in life. I guess I understand," why some people objected, he said, "because you have other religions there. But we're not preaching to the kids."

When approached yesterday by a Daily News reporter, Thomas declined to comment further. Tapeh was unavailable for comment.

Promoter Angela Brown said she had made it clear what Thomas would be talking about and the organization with which he was affiliated.

Caulk disputed that.
 
I agree with not allowing this group to come preach to the kids. If we are going to let them come in we are going to have to allow all groups equal access to teaching their religious views. I don't think the public school is the place and really would rather not have my child having every religion coming in to tell her about themselves.
 
I agree with not allowing this group to come preach to the kids. If we are going to let them come in we are going to have to allow all groups equal access to teaching their religious views. I don't think the public school is the place and really would rather not have my child having every religion coming in to tell her about themselves.
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Hmmmmm, I see your point.
 
But you know it should have never got to this point in America. And the reason that I say that, is because of these articles below.

From 1690 to 1900 American’s youth learned their ABC’s with a bible scripture associated with each letter. First graders talked about the Ten Commandments, in class, and learned what they meant.

Our founding fathers were brought up in schools in which their primers taught bible scriptures, morals and its teachings. They were taught the Ten Commandments and were thoroughly versed on each one and their meaning.


So in other words America, is in great error, to let things get this far. And you are right, I would not stand for Muslims coming in the schools to teach my children anything. But our schools should have been kept as Bible reading schools in the first place. And if the Muslims did not like it go to a Muslim school. And Christians found this country not Muslims.
 
:) Hi

Any one else is already excepted in the schools you can have Budda or other religions talk in you humanities class. Witches, etc... are accepted in the situation to talk in any school the only people they hate are Christians and anything that has to do with the Bible.
Meditation in any form is ok for students to partake of at all age levels, Yoga Relaxsation etc...
Just NO Christanity or any reality of it portrayed in any way.
JUDGMENT will come to our America for the Rejection of God and all that he is apart of in our country.
RJD Servant
 
Lewis W said:
But you know it should have never got to this point in America. And the reason that I say that, is because of these articles below.

From 1690 to 1900 American’s youth learned their ABC’s with a bible scripture associated with each letter. First graders talked about the Ten Commandments, in class, and learned what they meant.

Our founding fathers were brought up in schools in which their primers taught bible scriptures, morals and its teachings. They were taught the Ten Commandments and were thoroughly versed on each one and their meaning.


So in other words America, is in great error, to let things get this far. And you are right, I would not stand for Muslims coming in the schools to teach my children anything. But our schools should have been kept as Bible reading schools in the first place. And if the Muslims did not like it go to a Muslim school. And Christians found this country not Muslims.
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A "Muslim" school? And I'm certain it'd be seperate but equal, correct? Christians may have founded this country, but it was founded for everyone, not just them. A public school is meant for everyone, not just Christians. As such, religion should have no part in the school as far as teaching and schoolwide events are concerned.

And to RJD: Students are allowed to follow their own faiths. Christians, Wiccans, atheists, Muslims, etc. all attend school under the same roof and often know who each other are. It's when the school starts paying attention to one in particular that problems occur.
 
You are wrong dude, Christians get a bad break in the public school system. There is a Muslim school not far from my house here in Philly, called Clara Mohammed, let them go there. RJD is right this country shall pay for this stuff. Unless she repents.
 
I'm assuming you mean the one in Philadelphia then, which would be a private school. There are plenty of Christian private schools as well. What does this have to do with public schools?
 
Why should the atheistic philosophy of Darwin drivel be not only allowed to pollute kids' minds with total lies, but also to censor out the precious truths of God's Word? :evil:

See Creation/Evo Forum thread @ Evo Goes To Court :o

& many others that pooper-scoop evo=loopy=poop :wink:

"Stand fast in the liberty with which Christ has set you free!" :P

"The truth shall set you free!" :-D

Don't be penned up, Penn! 8-)
 
TIMELY 'DAILY LIGHT' HERE..

From http://www.crosswalk.com

Devotional

"Except Through Prayer"


"Devote yourselves to prayer '." (v.2)
-- For reading & meditation: Colossians 4:2-15

A single sentence written by the great John Wesley has helped me more than anything else to balance two great truths - the sovereignty of God and the responsibility of man.

Here is the statement which Wesley made: "God does nothing redemptively in the world - except through prayer."

Permit me to put into my own words what I think he was saying: whenever God wants to bring His purposes to pass here on earth He does not act arbitrarily, but touches the hearts of praying people and then ushers in His purposes across the bridge of prayer.

God may be sovereign but He is not dictatorial or capricious. He can no more act against His nature and the principles He has established in the world than He could make a square circle or an aged infant.

There are some things impossible even for God, and acting independently of the principles of prayer is one of them. This is why prayer and revival are so inseparably linked. I know of no revival that is not connected in some way with powerful, believing, intercessory prayer.

This, then, is how I see God's sovereignty and man's responsibility being brought together in harmony: when God decides that in the interests of His people a spiritual revival is necessary,

He lays a burden of prayer upon the hearts of His children - it may only be comparatively few - so that their prayers become the bridge across which revival power flows.

Let Wesley's famous statement ring in your heart once again: "God does nothing redemptively in the world - except through prayer."

PRAYER:

O God, I see that Your purposes are not arbitrary or capricious but the expression of Your nature - a revelation of Yourself. Amid the splendour of Your majesty I feel a heartbeat - a heartbeat of love. Thank you, dear Father. Amen.

FURTHER STUDY:

2 Kings 19:1-37; Prov. 21:1; Ex.17:8-13; Rev.19:6

1. What caused Hezekiah to act as he did?

2. How did God show His sovereignty?


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For more devotional materials and books from Selwyn Hughes visit CWR Online Store at: http://www.cwrstore.org.uk
 
Do you ever post anything relevant? This is the only forum I've been to where someone is allowed to constantly spam topics like you do.

We're not talking about evolution and your second post has nothing to do with schools at all.
 
A "Muslim" school? And I'm certain it'd be seperate but equal, correct? Christians may have founded this country, but it was founded for everyone, not just them. A public school is meant for everyone, not just Christians. As such, religion should have no part in the school as far as teaching and schoolwide events are concerned.
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The worse thing a guy could do when I was in grade/high school was to fly paper airplanes in class, shoot the teacher in the rear while she had her back to the class, or smoke a cigarette in the bathroom during lunch. For those things one could be expelled or receive ten licks with a piece of plywood. I don't recall a soul that died from it or suffered mental problems from that discipline either. There were no drugs, no knives, no guns brought to school, no one shooting a teacher because of a bad grade given, no one lying in wait for the students as they came outside to "blow away" a few of them.There was respect for authority from the principal of the school to the police who may have given you a ticket. Whatever I received at school I got it again when I got home.

Today, there' s no respect for leaders of our country, teachers or parents. Kids are killing kids over absolutely nothing. If we had a problem with someone when I was in school, you settled that in the parking lot or met somewhere away from the school...hand to hand-not pistols and rifles! In the 7th grade we always said grace before leaving the classroom to go to lunch and the whole class recited the 100th Psalm each morning. You weren't afraid to walk your own neighborhood after dark or even considered closing your windows at night since we had no AC in those days. Lock your car at night? What for? No reason to do that. They're wasn't car hijacking back then either. No one committed suicide either.

Today, God has been taken out of the classrooms across schools and campuses nationwide and we're seeing the result of that mistake in the news far too often. Does America have a date with God's woodshed? Better believe it and, I think it's already in progress.
 
D46 said:
Today, God has been taken out of the classrooms across schools and campuses nationwide and we're seeing the result of that mistake in the news far too often.
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This is true. Japan has completely seperated religion from their classroom teaching and just look at the murder rate.

I know some people here have a hard time catching sarcasm so I'll point out now that Japan has one of the lowest murder rates in the world while America has the highest of any developed nation.

I know the good old days you're talking about. My dad and his buddies once stuffed a guy in their trunk over spoken words and left him their for the school day. Racism, discrimination, and sexism were rampant and accepted. As was violence. The ghettos were full of it. A great deal more than they are now.

But I'm sure where you were it was very nice. Just because you hear it on the news more doesn't mean it wasn't happening then. Our media now is just hungry for stories that shock.
 
...Are they?

Why then, having swallowed them, do they not provide their viewers with the "film at 11" they used to promise with their teasers?
 
Because now it's shown at five?

The simple fact of the matter is violence is down over the last decade. Not up. And religion has been removed from schools more and more since then. So I can't say I agree with the idea that there should be a public school that caters to a religion.
 
...Are they?

Why then, having swallowed them, do they not provide their viewers with the "film at 11" they used to promise with their teasers?
 
Congratulations. You have a news story.

I have a detailed analysis of countries with much stricter rules regarding state and religion showing that they have lower murder rates.

Also from CNN.
 
In Biblical times, unless they were a heathen nation, what did they teach the children ? Wait a minute I can answer that GOD. Mankinds whole purpose is to line up with God, and get as close as you can with God. If the Forefathers could come back here, they would say what are these FOOLS doing. They don't even have a Bible in school. America has gone down hill and she shall pay for it.
And another thing kids who come out of Christian schools have a low crime rate.
When I was in elementary school we would say the grace before we ate anything right there at our desk if we were eating snacks. And you could ask a teacher about Jesus then with out being sent to the principles office.And the way I feel about the Muslims, is this. Let them get their own schools, I don't hate them, but who they serve is of the devil. The things that man is supposed to do for God, he is not doing it today, and that is to promote the agenda of God, and teaching our kids about God is important. They had little public schools back in Biblical days and they had private teachers, and they learned about God in both. God designed us for His pleasure, and for us to worship and learn Him, in all facets of our life. Not just in our homes, or in church but in the schools too. Jesus Christ is to come first before anything, and by our kids not grownig up filled with the spirit, they are doing all kinds of bad things. Now call me a lie, and say that they are not. Our kids have went crazy, and I use to be one of them in school, I was a LSD, speed taking, and Mary Jane smoking, have sex with any female that was down with it, hippie. And from that Godless behavior I wasted alot of years, and almost died a few times, from my drug abuse. I mean everybody else was doing it in school, so I said why not. And that Godless behavior spilled over into my adult life big time, and I mean big time, and it took years and years to get it out. But in high school, I don't remember God being mentioned one time in high school. Why was I in that condition because I had no direction, I would tell my parents one thing, and then when I got to school it was party time. Do you think me acting like a complete idiot, would have been tolerated in a Christian setting, I should say not. Those things that I did in school are going on today in the schools, mostly the public schools and to a great degree.So how do you expect these kids to act when Jesus Christ, is not in their Godless lives ?
 
At any point are you going to back up what you say? All you've given is anecdotal evidence. I seem to have turned out just fine without saying prayer in school. OMG BAN JESUS FROM AMERICA!

See? It's not very convincing.

If it is important to you that your children be taught about God with their lessons, then sen them to a Christian private school. There are plenty. And if they're truly Christian they'll let your child attend. Many of us would much rather send our children to a public school that attends to the public, not just Christians. Seperate but equal doesn't work. It's already been proven. So please keep religion out of the government.

Do you think me acting like a complete idiot, would have been tolerated in a Christian setting, I should say not.
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It certainly tolerated my father. And it's not a Christian setting that raises respectful children. It's a setting where they're punished for doing wrong and taught what's right. I point you again to Japan. No God in their schools. And a crime rate America dreams of. With respectful children no less. The heathens.

And why do you call American student's lives Godless? Are students no longer allowed to attend church? Church is where religion belongs. Not the government. Or is the constituion only applicable to other people's religions?

Oh, and some nonanecdotal evidence would be nice to back up what you've said. I've given plenty for my statements.
 
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