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Tim LaHaye Prophecy Study Bible

J

JM

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After seaching the net for good commentary, I found a deal on the LaHaye Prophecy Bible I couldn't pass up. It's being shipped as I write. If anyone is interested in finding out what this Bible has to say about different passages, just post the question in this thread...I should have it in couple of weeks.

Peace,

JM
 
After the mess he made of End Times with the Left Behind series, I pass. 8-) So many people are reading it and taking it as truth, without researching it for themselves. I wish I can remember how many times I talked to fellow believers and when the subject of End Times is brought up, I hear, "Oh, you're not a pretribulationist; did you read any of the Left Behind series?" I say, "I sure have; the first eight books." (which I have) I actually almost took it for truth myself, until I was released from it's bondage a couple of years ago. :lol: :lol:
 
Vic said:
After the mess he made of End Times with the Left Behind series, I pass. 8-) So many people are reading it and taking it as truth, without researching it for themselves. I wish I can remember how many times I talked to fellow believers and when the subject of End Times is brought up, I hear, "Oh, you're not a pretribulationist; did you read any of the Left Behind series?" I say, "I sure have; the first eight books." (which I have) I actually almost took it for truth myself, until I was released from it's bondage a couple of years ago. :lol: :lol:
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It wasn't a request for the pretribers only, even if you want to pick it apart I'd be happy to make the post.

Always searching for truth,

JM
 
Tim LaHaye has a close relationship with Rev Sun Myung Moon

"LaHayes group, the Council for National Policy, is just one example
of evangelical organizations being filled with Intelligence officers,
Moon representatives and Scientology members."

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy2.htm


there are also several links available with details about
Left Behind and Tim LaHaye's Masonic Connections,
but I don't want to confuse people too much, it's enough to say:

The masonic dudes have a smart thing going for themselves,
and they occupy a lot of space in the commercial christian bookstores,
what speaks for their smartness and great talent for "alternative realities"

Maybe we should talk about Calvin instead. Did you know JM that
Calvin's real name was Cohen. When he went from Geneva to France
to start preaching his doctrine he became known as Cauin.
Then in England it became Calvin.

Did you know who sent him there?
 
Geo said:
Tim LaHaye has a close relationship with Rev Sun Myung Moon

"LaHayes group, the Council for National Policy, is just one example
of evangelical organizations being filled with Intelligence officers,
Moon representatives and Scientology members."

http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy2.htm
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And Col. Sanders is trying to take over the world by enslaving the masses by his intoxicating chicken recipe. He makes you crave it day and night, it’s true man, so true.

What does Moon have to do with LaHaye’s work? That’s a logical fallacy, you’re trying to discredit one persons work by associating him with another guilty of false teaching. That being said, the LaHaye Bible is beautiful. I don’t use it because I find the notes too confusing and it makes what is clear unclear.

there are also several links available with details about
Left Behind and Tim LaHaye's Masonic Connections,
but I don't want to confuse people too much, it's enough to say:

The masonic dudes have a smart thing going for themselves,
and they occupy a lot of space in the commercial christian bookstores,
what speaks for their smartness and great talent for "alternative realities"
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Same thing, more logical fallacy.

Maybe we should talk about Calvin instead. Did you know JM that
Calvin's real name was Cohen. When he went from Geneva to France
to start preaching his doctrine he became known as Cauin.
Then in England it became Calvin.

Did you know who sent him there?
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If the history books I've read are correct it's Jean Cauvin (French), and he left France, hid in a few different places and then went to Geneva. :-? Good thing we talked about Calvin.

Peace,

j
 
People tend to ignore company affiliations under the presumption
"as long as I'm holy I can do business with the devil". Would I want to
have ties with a NWO messiah in order to further my christian cause ?
God forbid.

Another related question, would I want my book publisher use symbolic
on my book cover that outs me as unchristian ("christian with a twist
for the undiscerning") that follows a completely different line of belief.
(how about a symbol of the Egyptian god, Osiris) God forbid.
http://watch.pair.com/lahaye.html

How about if I organize the making and distribution of my film according
to major Satanic holidays? Would that trouble you, or would you still
call me a brother in Christ? Maybe I could claim that it's just the guys
that work for me, and I'm used againt my will? Interesting thought,
it's the "Satanists help to promote christians" reasoning, let's check the
original question then, what about the actual work:

General Teachings & Activities
http://rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes ... eneral.htm

just a small sample: " For being a supposed prophecy expert,
LaHaye has some real problems with his prophetical teachings in the
Left Behind series. For example, in books 8 & 9, LaHaye and Jenkins
teach that recipients of the mark of the beast can still be saved."

aaaaaaahhhrrrrggg! - thanks, no further questions.
 
Far too much emphasis is placed on the fictional account of the Left Behind series and what you claim Lahaye is teaching. As I wrote before, if anyone wants to know what the Bible note reads concerning a passage, just ask and I'll type it out. I'm not defending Lahaye but standing up for logic.

;-)

Genetic Fallacy : Geo is trying to disqualify Lahaye because he believes the origin of Lahaye teachings are have things in common with the masons. see Dr. Bob Morey on this arguement. It's logically unsound and leads to the Guilt by Association fallacy as well.

Poisoning the well: Without posting Lahaye's teachings on a topic Geo decided to set up a poisoned well, saying negitive things about the topic (which is leads to ad hominim) and teacher before diggin' in to the teaching.

Thanks, no further questions.
 
Well, a rebuke on formality on matters of life or death is like a compliment,
for the rest of you that rather 'dig into truth' I recommend to read the last link
posted and decide for yourself.

Just to point out what a ' fictional' or 'non- fictional' teaching of "saved after the
mark" implies: It makes sure that the ones that rely on this source of information
at the time when they need it most, at a time when they are in fact
"left behind" and in tribulation, will be led into straight anti-christ doctrine,
that here implies that one can be saved after taking the mark. It's indeed a
teaching from hell that will make the path To Hell a certainty for the ones that
take this advice and rely on it in practical terms.

Revelation 14:11  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:
and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image,
and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

I have to think hard to imagine a heresy more cruel, poisones and deadly.

Of course I explicitly do not doubt that someone with THIS kind of error might
be able to produce a "prophecy study bible" that qualifies as a "beautiful bible"
I was however seriously interested why Vic did pass here, and perhaps put
some basic research into the subject regarding orientation and fruits of the author.
 
I passed for a couple of reasons Geo. One, I did the "fruit inspection", as you did, a couple of years ago and didn't quite like where the research was heading. Two, I didn't feel the need to expand upon my little commentary above, mainly because Jason didn't ask me to nor did he ask for opinions on Tim and his new Bible. I do thank you for your posts though, so don't take my comment above in the wrong light. Three, I am taking a long-needed break from posting in End Times... but I'm still reading. 8-)

:)
 
This is why I stop coming here. The hard headedness and unreasonable attitudes. Not once in this post (or any post that I can think of) did I claim Tim LaHaye was correct in his teachings, and in fact I wrote a post not too long ago repenting of my dispensational rants to distance myself from dispensationalism in general. Instead of asking questions about the Bibles notes, which was the intent of this post, logical fallacies are tossed too and fro. Instead of asking what I meant when I wrote that it was a ‘beaut,’ both of you thought I was endorsing the Bible. If I was unclear, I apologize. The leather, binding and layout is beautiful. I own 23 leather study Bibles and this one has the best font, best quality paper and the notes are easy to read without being too numerous. That’s what I mean when I say it’s a beaut. On the other hand, I do endorse the Reformation Study Bible. Everything but the translation is wonderful. It’s a step down in general quality then the LaHaye Bible from AMG but Thomas Nelson has never been one of my favourite publishers.

Now that’s been said, can we get back on topic and stop the unnecessary hijacking…please! We should be looking at the TEACHNINGS and not the TEACHING in respect to the op.

Back to the op.

J
PS: The Bible is named after Tim LaHaye because he was the general editor. There are over 50 contributors to this study Bible, a few being John Ankerberg, Mal Couch, Larry Crutchfield, Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Norm Geisler, Edward Hindson, Thomas Ice, Zola Levitt, Thomas McCall, Josh McDowell, Chuck Missler, Henry Morris, Richard Patterson, J. D. Pentecost, Randy Price, Richard Mayhue, Adrian Rogers, John Walvoord, etc., etc. If LaHaye is crazy and we are using the guilt by association false argument, then we must include all of the above. The Bible states that each person held different beliefs when it comes to details, but they are in general agreement. Folks like Missler, Morris, Levitt, McDowell and Geisler are well know orthodox Bible teachers, but we must brand them heretics now. So, so sad.
 
Instead of asking what I meant when I wrote that it was a ‘beaut,’ both of you thought I was endorsing the Bible.
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How do you come up with "both of you" when I never even replied to your "beaut" post? :-? My second and previous post was an admission to "why" I passed in the first place. :-? :-?
 
Vic said:
Instead of asking what I meant when I wrote that it was a ‘beaut,’ both of you thought I was endorsing the Bible.
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How do you come up with "both of you" when I never even replied to your "beaut" post? :-? My second and previous post was an admission to "why" I passed in the first place. :-? :-?
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Sorry Vic, once I get rollin' I it's hard to slow down. Don't forget I'm young and idealistic, it's part of the fundamentalists in me. :D I'm just sick of the rampid use of illogical arguements to try and prove ones point. I didn't ask anything in the op about Timmy, I just wanted to help out by posting the notes. If anyone wanted to rip on his notes it wouldn't have bothered me at all. If I'm not mistaken, we're not suppose to hijack threads. 'Fruit test' what in the world is a fruit test when dealing with theological arguements? The idea of fruit is applied to the believer not what happens with the believers thoughts about God. Men are often better then their theology and sometimes their theology is better then the man. It's just the way fallen man is.

Peace.
 
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