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TO ALL "CHRISTIAN" MUSIC PRODUCERS, BEAT MAKERS, SOUND ENGINEERS, RAPPERS.....

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engineernm

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NOTE: I'M NOT TRYING TO START A RIOT, JUST A GOOD DISCUSSION. THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YALL; ALL I ASK FOR ARE YOUR OPINIONS/ANSWERS, SO PLEASE DON'T START BASHING SPREES; THERE ARE NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWERS.


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The question(s):


How is Christian music supposed to dominate the music industry as a whole, or even be somewhat prevalent, without selling out to the mainstream music industry?

Do you think that the "Christian" label has limited the rise of "Christian" music?

What do you think the mainstream music industry really sees Christian music as?

Should the focus be shifted from "Christian music" to "positive music with Christian principles" in order to become more prevalent?

Based on YOUR belief concerning the quality of music, is the mainstream music industry or the Christian music industry making better music?

Please comment and let me know! Please don't start bashing!
 
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Hi there.

I think there are two area of quality, about which you ask.

1) The quality of the music.

2) The quality of the lyrics.

I guess it's good when 1) & 2) score highly simultaneously.

They don't always, but I guess it's a good aim.
 
engineernm said:
Based on YOUR belief concerning the quality of music, is the mainstream music industry or the Christian music industry making better music?
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"Better"? Hmmmm.... I like portions of both. Actually, I'm quite eclectic regarding music and my appreciation travels many time-frames across many lands. Not sure how to think in terms of "better" here. If I had to say, maybe I'd think of the various genres of music, it would be selections from all of the above that are "better". Sorry about that, but I really do love a variety of sounds. Some I hate (no, I'm not talking about "modern") but there are some sounds that just get on my nerves and my first inclination is to turn it off. Others transport me, like reading a favorite author and I am carried into new realms of thought and understanding.

Regarding "Music written with Christian Principles," we enter a whole new discussion. Yes, I like music that helps me understand the Lord and His children. I also enjoy music that helps me to understand cultures that I am not as familiar with. Pretty vague answer, I know. Sorry, but it's a very broad subject. I do not care for some of the things that the "mainstream music industry" focuses on because it takes some of the joy (and some of the sorrow and some from the whole gamut of musical talent) and profits from it, but that's true for most stuff, not just music.

Cordially,
Sparrow
 
Okay, an example comes to mind. Sue Hunt sung a song (and was recorded on old style reel-to-reel). A song that stirred me deeply. That was back in the '70's. I can still hear the echoes of her voice as I recall the pleading that was in her heart while singing her version of Psalm/Song, "Hear, O Lord [the sound of my voice]."

The church where I heard her sing went on to include a professional music studio and the fidelity of much of the musical ministry that was delivered there was recorded, but Sue had committed suicide before that time. I personally believe that He heard her and that she is with the Lord this day.

"Hear, O Lord, and have mercy..."​

We, as a church prayed a prayer that asked God to raise her from the dead.

"My body's aching, for the glory of you."​

She was not raised that day.

"Hear, O Lord, and answer..."​
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I have recently emailed a brother in Christ who has her recording on his reel-to-reel. He shared the experience of that song and that story. The sound is somewhat scratchy and the Sue Hunt song will never be heard except by those who cherish her and the memory. My friend has promised to send the .MP3 he is recording in reply and he too has been thinking of that time, back in the early 70's. The Spirit moved her to sing, and the Holy Spirit touched me with that song. The Music Industry can not match that, but that is not to say that the Lord will not use all things for the good of they who love Him.
 
Greetings urk,

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In your eye, in your eye too.

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I am none of the above, although I do play the piano/keyboard. I'm simply someone who loves music. But I'd like to answer anyway, if that's alright.


"How is Christian music supposed to dominate the music industry as a whole, or even be somewhat prevalent, without selling out to the mainstream music industry?"
I don't know, but I'd say that Christian music is already at least somewhat prevalent. Events like Winter Jam have a huge turn out. The building at Winter Jam 2013 in Jacksonville (and other cities in other states) this year was filled to capacity, with a lot of people who never got in.
That said, it's likely that those not in the circle of Christian music don't know much about it.

"Do you think that the "Christian" label has limited the rise of "Christian" music?"
Possibly.
To use an example, from what I know of Skillet's history, they got more popular after they stopped advertizing themselves as a Christian band and toned down the Christian references in their songs to a more subtle level. If you know where to look, it's pretty obvious that they're Christians. But there are plenty of non-believers who are fans of their music and don't even realize that they're Christian until someone tells them. Some of these people wouldn't want to listen to their music if they were blatantly Christian.
That said, I think both those who don't sell themselves as a Christian band and those who do both serve a purpose.

"What do you think the mainstream music industry really sees Christian music as?"
Hard to say. If they're not Christian, likely they're not interested in it if they're not interested in the Christian message. Especially since the songs are often meant to speak specifically to Christians on a spiritual level.
I've come across people who do seem to think that if something's specifically meant to cater to a Christian audience, it's not going to be any good.

"Should the focus be shifted from "Christian music" to "positive music with Christian principles" in order to become more prevalent?"
Some bands have already gone this route, I think. And I think both serve a very good purpose. I don't think it should be done all across the board. It largely depends on what their main focus is. Are they trying to speak to an already Christian audience, or are they trying to witness to non-believers?

"Based on YOUR belief concerning the quality of music, is the mainstream music industry or the Christian music industry making better music?"
I can't really say. I like a bit from both. I do tend to listen to Christian music more, and I like the variety that there is within Christian music. I think I listen to Christian music mainly for the message, though.
 
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questdriven said:
I am none of the above, although I do play the piano/keyboard. I'm simply someone who loves music. But I'd like to answer anyway, if that's alright.


"How is Christian music supposed to dominate the music industry as a whole, or even be somewhat prevalent, without selling out to the mainstream music industry?"
I don't know, but I'd say that Christian music is already at least somewhat prevalent. Events like Winter Jam have a huge turn out. The building at Winter Jam 2013 in Jacksonville (and other cities in other states) this year was filled to capacity, with a lot of people who never got in.
That said, it's likely that those not in the circle of Christian music don't know much about it.

"Do you think that the "Christian" label has limited the rise of "Christian" music?"
Possibly.
To use an example, from what I know of Skillet's history, they got more popular after they stopped advertizing themselves as a Christian band and toned down the Christian references in their songs to a more subtle level. If you know where to look, it's pretty obvious that they're Christians. But there are plenty of non-believers who are fans of their music and don't even realize that they're Christian until someone tells them. Some of these people wouldn't want to listen to their music if they were blatantly Christian.
That said, I think both those who don't sell themselves as a Christian band and those who do both serve a purpose.

"What do you think the mainstream music industry really sees Christian music as?"
Hard to say. If they're not Christian, likely they're not interested in it if they're not interested in the Christian message. Especially since the songs are often meant to speak specifically to Christians on a spiritual level.
I've come across people who do seem to think that if something's specifically meant to cater to a Christian audience, it's not going to be any good.

"Should the focus be shifted from "Christian music" to "positive music with Christian principles" in order to become more prevalent?"
Some bands have already gone this route, I think. And I think both serve a very good purpose. I don't think it should be done all across the board. It largely depends on what their main focus is. Are they trying to speak to an already Christian audience, or are they trying to witness to non-believers?

"Based on YOUR belief concerning the quality of music, is the mainstream music industry or the Christian music industry making better music?"
I can't really say. I like a bit from both. I do tend to listen to Christian music more, and I like the variety that there is within Christian music. I think I listen to Christian music mainly for the message, though.
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questdriven:

Interesting points.

I can see what you mean.

Also I think there is probably the factor of whether the music would necessarily be suitable for general congregational singing.

Some tunes or tracks might be really good quality Christian rock, but it might not be universally acclaimed as a Sunday morning hymn in church.

While some folk would be dismissive of all congregational hymns and songs, and others would be dissmissive of all Christian rock, I would not be dismissive of either.

If this makes some sense.

Blessings.
 
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