Bible Study To sit with me in my throne and Psalm 132:12

[Fyre]

Grace and peace to you!

I have a question, maybe someone could help me out. Its on Psalm 132:12. What I wanted to ask is if this verse seems in accord with the same shown by Jesus in Revelation 3:21.


I'll start in the verse prior to it here...

Psalm 132:11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.

Which we know is speaking of Christ here...


Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Onto the next one following....


Psalm 132:12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.

Whereas we see Jesus saying...


Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

I am adding this into another study that I am comparing a few different ways that seem to confirm, but I wanted to be more certain before meshing them in together is why I am asking.

Thanks for any help!

God bless you

 

[Sinthesis]

It seems in accord in general, but if particulars are applied that could change.

 

[Fyre]

It seems in accord in general, but if particulars are applied that could change.

Okay, so one verse speaks of Jesus Christ (which was David seeing before the resurrection of Christ) as the apostles confirm correct? And then you have Christ who is actually seated upon his throne (and by whom) we have received the adoption of children saying in accord, "he that overcometh he will grant to sit also with him on his throne"? Which particulars? Because the verses go from David testifying of Jesus Christ being raised and seated upon the throne to thy children (and by Christ) we receive the adoption of children and we have Christ also speaking of sitting with him on his throne as the verse in the psalms speaks.

 

[Fyre]

Okay, heres a few others I was looking at

Psalm 132:11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.

Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Psalm 132:12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.

Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

1John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

1John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

 

[Sinthesis]

Psalm 132:12 is conditional, and not exclusively about Jesus, but applies to any of David's descendants because it speaks of "children", plural. So one particular is that Solomon as a child of David did not keep the covenant, such that the kingdom was split and his children eventually lost the throne of Judah. Nathan then became the physical line through whom the promise was kept to David. Solomon failed, but in Jesus Christ we have one greater than Solomon. So the verses are in accord through Jesus(as a son of David), but are not in accord in terms of any other descendent of David.

 

[Fyre]

Psalm 132:12 is conditional, and not exclusively about Jesus, but applies to any of David's descendants because it speaks of "children", plural. So one particular is that Solomon as a child of David did not keep the covenant, such that the kingdom was split and his children eventually lost the throne of Judah. Nathan then became the physical line through whom the promise was kept to David. Solomon failed, but in Jesus Christ we have one greater than Solomon. So the verses are in accord through Jesus(as a son of David), but are not in accord in terms of any other descendent of David.

That's what I mean, the verse was speaking forward of Jesus Christ, so wouldn't we count it, not after the children of the flesh but the children of the promise? Children born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God? Because if you follow the verses through Psalm 132:12 says, If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore... then goes right into Psalm 132:13 For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation. As Christ is the stone laid in Zion

For example the children are shown here also in

Isaiah 8:18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.

John 6:65 Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Zion plays into the context there, and they that trust in the Lord shall be as mount Zion, which is also the place of His rest which is shown in the following verses, where you can again take off on coming unto a living stone. And ourselves being built up a spiritual house and a habitation by the Spirit. So I am considering the verses which are also after, as well as the apostles words (bearing witness of Jesus Christ) his words and how it speaks in accord with the children given Jesus (the Spirit of adoption) given of the Father, and their children and ourselves begotten of the gospel of Christ etc.

I wasn't even thinking of children after the flesh, but forward children by Jesus Christ which the first verse is speaking of as the apostles confirm.

 

[Sinthesis]

I agree, but I just wanted you to be aware that some people are still stuck on 'children of the flesh' as being more significant than 'spiritual children', so they won't be able to rightly interpret the OT in light of the NT as you have done.

 

[Fyre]

I agree, but I just wanted you to be aware that some people are still stuck on 'children of the flesh' as being more significant than 'spiritual children', so they won't be able to rightly interpret the OT in light of the NT as you have done.

Okay thanks Sinthesis, and yes I am aware of this. What I wanted to do is better establish the children as shown by Jesus Christ, and just so when I weave into what I was catching in this elsewhere, that I could knock that out of the equation. That it would be better seen in the context of Jesus Christ.

Foreseeing problem areas and making them firm first. That's all

Sorta like, when you can anticipate such a misunderstanding and are trying to better ground a certain part, its always helpful to put that forward and ask, because sometimes others can add further confirmation.

Thanks, and God bless you!