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All you have to do is look for those references instead of doing nothing and simply declaring they don't exist. And what books were written about Caesar at the same time he lived? :o Yet you believe the biographies of him without batting an eye even though you have zero details about the witnesses who wrote them like we have for those who witnessed Christ's life!

Then why isn't our calendar based on the life of Zeus? :o

Of course there is doubt about his birth! When the census was taken, his parents left the area so he wouldn't be killed. :) Those who stayed, were killed. The catacombs of the dead infants can be found in Israel today. When I was in Cesarea, I saw an old plaque that read; "Pontius Pilate; prefect of Judea. And again, all the kings and events of the bible can be verified by outside sources. But you are the type who says history didn't happen just because you say so in the same way that people deny the Holocaust and say the photos were doctored. It's again called denial.

And who do you think the "us" refers to in Genesis when God said; "Let us make man in our image"? Yes indeed, Christ was predicted in Genesis and Genesis was written thousands of years before Christ made his appearance on earth!

So all your statements are again in error. They show you haven't done your research. There is indeed a myriad of evidence that Christ lived! Your only defense again Christ's existence is to close your eyes to it. That's like a blindman saying the world isn't round because he can't see the evidence. But that doesn't at all mean the evidence isn't there. In fact, you use the very evidence in your attempted refutations that you say doesn't exist! :o
 
Then why isn't our calendar based on the life of Zeus?

Maybe not Zeus, but some of his comrades....

January - Roman God Janus
February - Roman God Februus
March - Roman God of War
April - Possibly from the Greek God Aphrodite
May - Greek God Maia
June - Roman Goddess Juno

Etc, etc, etc

Would you like to do the days of the week as well?
 
Yet you believe the biographies of him without batting an eye even though you have zero details about the witnesses who wrote them like we have for those who witnessed Christ's life!
Theres a big difference between sceptisim and blind acceptance. If people said Caesar had flown, healed by touch, could call lightning at whim and turn invisible if he wished, then those claims would be met with the same amount of sceptisim that similar unbelieveable claims in the bible are met with.

Then why isn't our calendar based on the life of Zeus?
The Hindu calander is currently around year 2530, the chinese/buddist calander is over 3000 years. The year that we use was picked by christians in the past, but is by no way the only calander in use.

And who do you think the "us" refers to in Genesis when God said; "Let us make man in our image"? Yes indeed, Christ was predicted in Genesis and Genesis was written thousands of years before Christ made his appearance on earth!
Christ is not mentioned at all, quite a jump in logic to think a two letter word proves Jesus is mentioned. The use of the terms "we" or "us" is used by royalty and other religions. The royal "we" is sometimes used as the person is talking for a country, a population or a group of people. Often such rulers would refer to themselves in the third person.
 
Heidi said:
Every word in the bible is the truth because it is God inspired. It is the living word just as God is the living God. :)

Yep... :biggrin
 
Do you have any evidence that the Bible is the word of God? Like, actual evidence that can't be refuted in 1 sentence.
 
Frost Giant said:
Do you have any evidence that the Bible is the word of God? Like, actual evidence that can't be refuted in 1 sentence.

You will never know whether a map is true until you follow it yourself; otherwise the millions and millions that have gone before you can not prove it as truth to you, that is something that you will have to do for yourself.

Once you have proved it to yourself, you will never question it again.
 
maps

Solo said:
Frost Giant said:
Do you have any evidence that the Bible is the word of God? Like, actual evidence that can't be refuted in 1 sentence.

You will never know whether a map is true until you follow it yourself; otherwise the millions and millions that have gone before you can not prove it as truth to you, that is something that you will have to do for yourself.

Once you have proved it to yourself, you will never question it again.
Maps can at least be followed to the end and the map is made from someone who has been there and is believed credible. The bible cannot because no one has come back from the dead to testify. So all we have left are unsubstantiated claims with other no other evidence available to even hint that what is claimed is true or at least possible. You can claim Jesus came back but as we have discussed his existance is questioned for some very good reason and so far the existance of a God has not been proven either . Furthermore the more we discover and the more knowledge we acquire the claims become less and less credible.
 
Re: maps

reznwerks said:
Solo said:
Frost Giant said:
Do you have any evidence that the Bible is the word of God? Like, actual evidence that can't be refuted in 1 sentence.

You will never know whether a map is true until you follow it yourself; otherwise the millions and millions that have gone before you can not prove it as truth to you, that is something that you will have to do for yourself.

Once you have proved it to yourself, you will never question it again.
Maps can at least be followed to the end and the map is made from someone who has been there and is believed credible. The bible cannot because no one has come back from the dead to testify. So all we have left are unsubstantiated claims with other no other evidence available to even hint that what is claimed is true or at least possible. You can claim Jesus came back but as we have discussed his existance is questioned for some very good reason and so far the existance of a God has not been proven either . Furthermore the more we discover and the more knowledge we acquire the claims become less and less credible.

You have placed your eternity in the word of others just as one who follows a map that others have mapped out. You say that no one has come back from the dead to testify. Jesus and others have come back from the dead. That is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Death has no victory over those that are believers, called out of the world, freed from condemnation. Jesus whom is very credible and who I know, has given me the faith to continue the map contained in the Bible. Until you know Jesus you will be lost just as you would be lost if you didn't believe the authors of a map. How many maps have you followed where you know each surveyer? Did you follow a map because science personally gave you the evidence that the map was true, or did you follow it on faith that it was true due to the many that have gone before you?

You have no "evidence" that a map is true until you travel it. You are following a map through faith and experience. The Bible is the same. The more that God reveals to His children the more we know the worldviews are lacking, and the Bible is so very true.
 
Solo said:
Frost Giant said:
Do you have any evidence that the Bible is the word of God? Like, actual evidence that can't be refuted in 1 sentence.

You will never know whether a map is true until you follow it yourself; otherwise the millions and millions that have gone before you can not prove it as truth to you, that is something that you will have to do for yourself.

Once you have proved it to yourself, you will never question it again.
I guess that's a no. Then can you please stop posting Bible quotes as evidence against evolution? Thank you.
 
Frost Giant said:
Solo said:
[quote="Frost Giant":biggrin1e2b]Do you have any evidence that the Bible is the word of God? Like, actual evidence that can't be refuted in 1 sentence.

You will never know whether a map is true until you follow it yourself; otherwise the millions and millions that have gone before you can not prove it as truth to you, that is something that you will have to do for yourself.

Once you have proved it to yourself, you will never question it again.
I guess that's a no. Then can you please stop posting Bible quotes as evidence against evolution? Thank you.[/quote:biggrin1e2b]
If you don't like Bible quotes, you are on the wrong forum. This is a Christian forum and we back up all things with the Word of God.
Thank you for your understanding.
 
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