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Should not true Christians follow Luke 6: 27-36 ?
27"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31Do to others as you would have them do to you.
32"If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' lend to 'sinners,' expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
 
arunangelo, absolutely any Christian should follow this. I see this as more of what it really means to be Christian and HAVE THAT HEAVENLY MINDSET!! This is the golden rule mindset.

This is why I don't follow most of the Christian Doctrines, specifically the ones on Hell and judgement. For why should we follow a mindset that, according to the mainstream Christian doctrines, is far from this wonderful concept? . . . . . . . . . . Unless this is one of those times where God is saying, "Do as I SAY, . . . not as I do!" And for the record, I don't believe any good God would state such a thing.
 
arunangelo said:
Should not true Christians follow Luke 6: 27-36 ?....
How about if they follow the whole Bible?

And who is the decider on who is a "true Christian"?
 
Catholic Crusader said:
arunangelo said:
Should not true Christians follow Luke 6: 27-36 ?....
How about if they follow the whole Bible?

And who is the decider on who is a "true Christian"?

Name one person who ever lived that followed the whole bible.

It is Christ who judges those who are His own.
 
mutzrein said:
Name one person who ever lived that followed the whole bible....
Well, I guess I was trying to say, why pick just one verse to be the litmus test: Why not pick ALL that the Bible teaches?
mutzrein said:
It is Christ who judges those who are His own.
Well, I sure can't argue with that. :)
 
Catholic Crusader said:
mutzrein said:
Name one person who ever lived that followed the whole bible....
Well, I guess I was trying to say, why pick just one verse to be the litmus test: Why not pick ALL that the Bible teaches?
mutzrein said:
It is Christ who judges those who are His own.
Well, I sure can't argue with that. :)

Which is why I asked the question. If no-one has ever lived up to ALL of it, the measure, surely cannot be the bible.
 
mutzrein said:
...Which is why I asked the question. If no-one has ever lived up to ALL of it, the measure, surely cannot be the bible.
Well, I was trying to be nice. Frankly, you could destroy every Bible on earth and it wouldn't matter, because the infallible Church Christ established would go on.
 
Catholic Crusader said:
mutzrein said:
...Which is why I asked the question. If no-one has ever lived up to ALL of it, the measure, surely cannot be the bible.
Well, I was trying to be nice. Frankly, you could destroy every Bible on earth and it wouldn't matter, because the infallible Church Christ established would go on.

Ah . . . so we don't need the bible, just the Catholic Church?
 
It infallibly gave all of us the Bible, for one thing!

(Or is the Bible not really the Word of God?)
 
The bible is the book of the Catholic Church. The Church came into existance before the bible.
Trying to interpret the Church's book without the guiding authority of the Church can result in skewed ideas of faith and what God wants of us.
 
Nobody can follow the bible to the letter anymore than anyone could follow The Law to the letter.

Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

The Gospel is that Christ died, was buried and rose again. You'll find the Gospel in scripture. The bible is not a rule book. It's the witness of God's pursuit of man. The Word of God came from God. God's Word is for ALL men, regardless of who they are or what they are or think they are.

If there's question toward the Catholic church the RCC Discussion Forum is where to be. If there's a specific topic not presently found in the RCC discussion forum then please post a request for the topic in the Topics Suggestion Sticky
 
A-Christian said:
The bible is the book of the Catholic Church. The Church came into existance before the bible.
Trying to interpret the Church's book without the guiding authority of the Church can result in skewed ideas of faith and what God wants of us.

Yup. Its like having the Constitution without a Supreme Court. Imagine everyone having a pocket sized Constitution, no Supreme Court, then trying to govern themselves. It would be anarchy!.

Wait as minute: Over 20,000 protestant denominations, all claiming to follow the Bible, and all having opposing doctrines: Anarchy! LOL.

(No offense to my non-Catholic Christian brothers.)
 
Potluck said:
Nobody can follow the bible to the letter anymore than anyone could follow The Law to the letter.

Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

The Gospel is that Christ died, was buried and rose again. You'll find the Gospel in scripture. The bible is not a rule book. It's the witness of God's pursuit of man. The Word of God came from God. God's Word is for ALL men, regardless of who they are or what they are or think they are.

If there's question toward the Catholic church the RCC Discussion Forum is where to be. If there's a specific topic not presently found in the RCC discussion forum then please post a request for the topic in the Topics Suggestion Sticky

No offense, but why is it when a Catholic expresses their opinion based on what we believe, the first knee-jerk reaction is to get us and our posts out of this forum?

I would remind you that first and foremost, WE ARE CHRISTIANS, and this is a CHRISTIAN FORUM. Therefore our opinions have as much validity as anyone else's
 
Not all Christians are Catholic.

I don't like the way things are going in this thread. It's becoming an "Us - Them" confrontation and that Catholic Crusader is not Christian.

I'll not agrue any further. Please try to stay on topic without claiming any one particular belief is the only way. We're all in the army of God with differing stations, purposes and tools. What suits you may not suit another but in the end we all serve the same master.
 
Potluck said:
Not all Christians are Catholic.
Not all Christians are Baptists either, or Presbyterians, or Episcopalians. But, all Catholics are Christians. That was my point. I am a Christian!! Why should my opinion be invalid in this forum just because I am a Catholic?
Potluck said:
I don't like the way things are going in this thread. It's becoming an "Us - Them" confrontation and that Catholic Crusader is not Christian.
Fair enough. But a CAREFUL examination of the threads will reveal that I started out offering my opinion, and my opinion was almost always followed up with a confrontational challenging post. Perhaps it is the other Christians you should be addressing.
Potluck said:
I'll not agrue any further. Please try to stay on topic.....
I'd love to. I never intended otherwise.
 
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